Ronaldo is better in my opinion because he is more complete. Ronaldo has carried every team he's played for and scores 25+ goals a season no matter what.
I don't think the same can be said for Messi. You could put Ronaldo in any team and he'd score 20 goals a season by himself. He creates his own chances as well as other people's chances.
Messi is a team player, but if you put him at a lesser team he wouldn't be as effective as the players around him wouldn't be as good. He needs the players around him to do what they do for him to be effective. In my opinion he wouldn't score 25+ goals a season without the players around him doing what they do and being the best in the world at what they do.
Until Lionel Messi comes to the Premier League and carries a team like Ronaldo did, I will always say that Ronaldo is better than Messi.
Both are out of this world, but Ronaldo a bit more so imo.
Ronaldo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Messi IMO
And that is becuase you're a United fan who still wuvs him.
and because your a liverpool fan you still hate him.
Why should Messi have to come to the EPL to prove himself? He has proven he is the best player, in the best team and in the best league in the world. Messi is the star of this generation, I believe he will go on to be up with the likes of Maradona.
Think in the 2010 calendar year Messi scored 58 goals in 53 starts. Unbelievable.
Messi plays with a smile on his face, Ronaldo looks a ****. Messi dosen't dive, as much, he bounces off players, Ronaldo goes down and spits his dummy out.
Buuuuut he dosen't.55 in 52.
He shouldn't, but for me he should to see if he can match Ronaldo's feats. Ronaldo FOR ME is the greatest player in the world and he will also go up with the greats of all time.
Ronaldo has proved everywhere he's been that he is the best at what he does. Messi was brought up with most of the players in the squad and nurtured in from a very young age so knows everything about the club.
Ronaldo moved from Sporting to Manchester United when he was like 17/18, took 3 years to settle and turned into the best player in the world. He then moved to Real Madrid, settled immediately and is still banging in 30 goals a season. He's already got 30 this season.
Messi has been settled his entire career (since he went to Barcelona when he was 12) and hasn't been moved since. Media left him alone and he's turned into a great. But for me, Ronaldo > Messi.
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Messi dives. Ronaldo dives. He dives more, but he gets kicked a lot harder too.
Even if he does dive more, imagine how much better he'd be if he stayed on his feet. Just enhances my opinion that Ronaldo > Messi.
Buuuuut he dosen't.
so until messi moves clubs, he won't be the best? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
Haven't said that. I've said that for me if/when he goes to the Premier League and matches/betters Ronaldo's achievements, he won't be better than Ronaldo.
Everyone's opinions differ, mine will always be Ronaldo > Messi until he matches Ronaldo's achievements outside of his comfort zone.
Yes. In football you shouldn't dive, therefore diving reduces football talent,.Means nothing. He's still one of if not the best footballers in the world even if he does go down easily.. has nothing to do with his footballing ability does it?
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Haven't said that. I've said that for me if/when he goes to the Premier League and matches/betters Ronaldo's achievements, he won't be better than Ronaldo.
Everyone's opinions differ, mine will always be Ronaldo > Messi until he matches Ronaldo's achievements outside of his comfort zone.
I really don't get this argument. So by this logic, Ronaldo >> Pele and Maradona because they haven't played in the prem?
Yes. In football you shouldn't dive, therefore diving reduces football talent,.
Pele carried every team he was in by himself, and scored over 1000 goals.
Maradona carried every team he was in by himself. Won World Cups by himself and won Serie A with Napoli by himself.
Ronaldo won Champions League and Premiership by himself.
Messi won everything with Barcelona, not by himself.
Big difference imo.
Pele carried every team he was in by himself, and scored over 1000 goals.
Maradona carried every team he was in by himself. Won World Cups by himself and won Serie A with Napoli by himself.
Ronaldo won Champions League and Premiership by himself.
Messi won everything with Barcelona, not by himself.
Big difference imo.
For me Messi is better because he is so much more of a team player than Ronaldo is. Also Messi constantly takes games by the scruff of the neck and changes them, eg Arsenal last season and Madrid in the last classico. Ronaldo so often goes missing in the big games.