Mr Langvatn's Tactic Thread (Updated for 13.3.3)

Phil2 said:
This is the majority of my games as Swansea (first season, squad is shown on the right side of the image) using W4NKER's tactic. I posted the earlier games here. The tactic got me fourth in the league but knocked out of both cups early on. Would 4-1-4-1 have produced better results? Who knows. I'm sticking with this four now though (because I have a lack of midfield quality).

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That's nice results for Swansea :)
 
Well I think the Rock tactic broke the game. The only other good tactic I tried in Fm13 was the Arrigo Sacchi's 4-2-2-2, but the rock tactic 4-1-4-1 shows greater consistency (H)

I started my usual save with Hartlepool in League 1. Dead poor and predicted to finish last. Got free transfers only and ended up winning the League and JPT. Unfortunately did not save the league standings, but I got the transfer list here.

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Anyway bring on the second season in Championship. Not much to spend again, got 15K to spend on wages only. Team had the lowest average wage in the league as well.

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In the second season I initially struggled with the team first(new players maybe??), however the tactic was fluid around December.

And then all **** broke loose.

I went on a 26 match unbeaten run which only ended after I rested my players for the FA CUP final (yes we reached that too!!)

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We actually had the most luckiest run in ever with Newcastle being the only tough opponent, whom surprisingly we defeated easily.
We met Chelsea in the final, and again fortunately they did not field their very best team. Ended up winning in extra time !!

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Finished 5th in the championship, got through the play offs and promoted as well !

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I've tried numerous tactics with the Hartlepool save and I can easily say the rock version is the best plug and play tactic available. Normally it would have taken me 4-5 years before I can win a cup, but ended up doing it in the second year which is quite a testament to how solid the tactic is.

I leave you with the team stats. Club striker Luke James got me 22 goals, but if you look down you see that its spread among a lot of the players as well.

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Rock Solid stuff.
 
Could you guys help me test this one? I don't have time to test AGAIN with all kinds of teams, but in my own saves, this seems really strong. It's the same tactic as the 4-1-3-1-1 Degeneration X, but a few changes. The MC has gotten a few changes, and the AMC has been moved to ST, and the two strikers have been reworked.
 
Mr Langvatn said:
Could you guys help me test this one? I don't have time to test AGAIN with all kinds of teams, but in my own saves, this seems really strong. It's the same tactic as the 4-1-3-1-1 Degeneration X, but a few changes. The MC has gotten a few changes, and the AMC has been moved to ST, and the two strikers have been reworked.
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Is the 4-1-3-1-1 tactic in the OP as well Mr Langvatn, din syke fm taktikker ;) stor hyllest :P
 
Mr Langvatn said:
Could you guys help me test this one? I don't have time to test AGAIN with all kinds of teams, but in my own saves, this seems really strong. It's the same tactic as the 4-1-3-1-1 Degeneration X, but a few changes. The MC has gotten a few changes, and the AMC has been moved to ST, and the two strikers have been reworked.
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Anymore results with this Mr Langvatn? I like the prospect of a 4132!
 
never used your tactics - dont even knwo why .. but i had to win with Barca to get into knockout stages im 1st year in CL .. so switched to 4141 rock just before that game .. this is what happened View attachment 350886
 
You sir, are a bonafide genius! Of all plug and play tactics, yours are the most effective. I just adjusted my team to play your 4-4-2 gung-ho by bringing in the right players, changed the hard tackling on certain players to normal, played the MR and ML as AMR and AML, and good lord, I think these results speak for themselves! Less than half a season down and look at my goal difference and those average ratings! My team is playing beautiful, attacking football and the fitness levels are generally excellent. Thank you for getting rid of the tactical confusion I've been facing. I've posted some fun results too ;)

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P.S. My only issue is that the tactic isn't too effective playing away against strong teams like Man City and Arsenal, especially in the Champions League. I designed a fast, counter-attacking tactic that seems to be working for now (I used it for the 5-2 FCP result), but it isn't nearly as effective as yours. Any suggestions as to which of your other tactics I could use for such games?
 
psykobanana said:
You sir, are a bonafide genius! Of all plug and play tactics, yours are the most effective. I just adjusted my team to play your 4-4-2 gung-ho by bringing in the right players, changed the hard tackling on certain players to normal, played the MR and ML as AMR and AML, and good lord, I think these results speak for themselves! Less than half a season down and look at my goal difference and those average ratings! My team is playing beautiful, attacking football and the fitness levels are generally excellent. Thank you for getting rid of the tactical confusion I've been facing. I've posted some fun results too ;)

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P.S. My only issue is that the tactic isn't too effective playing away against strong teams like Man City and Arsenal, especially in the Champions League. I designed a fast, counter-attacking tactic that seems to be working for now (I used it for the 5-2 FCP result), but it isn't nearly as effective as yours. Any suggestions as to which of your other tactics I could use for such games?
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4-1-4-1 Rock is the best one vs strong teams :)
 
the rock 4141 is the best tactic easy
second in premier league with BARNSLEY 3 points adrift of united, my side is terrible i dont even have my own striker there loaned in infact roughly 6-7 players in the starting 11 are loaned in???

on another save i have as manutd i never play the same 11 two games in a row cos am that confident i play reserves and youths were poss???

great work

now just make a tactic with 2 strikers lol
 
Mr Langvatn said:
Any more results from Degeneration X 4132? :)
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Strikers don't score, goals come from midfield or defenders on set pieces. It very solid at the back, and seems to have a knack for generating penalties for your team. I got like 9 penalites in 5 games lol. If the strikers could be tweaked to get into more attacking positions, then it'll be great! At the moment, they are just assist machines.
 
xpronic said:
Strikers don't score, goals come from midfield or defenders on set pieces. It very solid at the back, and seems to have a knack for generating penalties for your team. I got like 9 penalites in 5 games lol. If the strikers could be tweaked to get into more attacking positions, then it'll be great! At the moment, they are just assist machines.
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Ok. Thanks for testing :) I'll see what I can do about that :)
 
Mr Langvatn said:
Any more results from Degeneration X 4132? :)
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i tested 6 games with this tatic on real madrid in January of 2015, after keep use the rock tatic
won 5 games and draw 1 vs Espanyol 2-2 out
ronaldo scores 5 goals , benzema 3 and higuain 2, but sahin scores 4 goals and varane 3 goals
just want see against strong teams how will be :)
 
psykobanana said:
You sir, are a bonafide genius! Of all plug and play tactics, yours are the most effective. I just adjusted my team to play your 4-4-2 gung-ho by bringing in the right players, changed the hard tackling on certain players to normal, played the MR and ML as AMR and AML, and good lord, I think these results speak for themselves! Less than half a season down and look at my goal difference and those average ratings! My team is playing beautiful, attacking football and the fitness levels are generally excellent. Thank you for getting rid of the tactical confusion I've been facing. I've posted some fun results too ;)

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P.S. My only issue is that the tactic isn't too effective playing away against strong teams like Man City and Arsenal, especially in the Champions League. I designed a fast, counter-attacking tactic that seems to be working for now (I used it for the 5-2 FCP result), but it isn't nearly as effective as yours. Any suggestions as to which of your other tactics I could use for such games?
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Hmm. Why don't you use your tweak for the majority of your home and away games and then use the 4141 rock against city/arsenal/chelsea/madrid etc. away from home. Then on neutral ground maybe use the 4141 rock until you grab the first goal then switch to your attacking tweak again.

I'd be very interested and grateful if you could upload your version aswell please?
 
4-2-3-1 Gung Ho Classic, with Rosenborg. What role should the striker be trained into, and the wings are IF I guess?
 
4-1-4-1 Rock for hard home games (ex: Barcelona, City, Bayern, Real Madrid etc), and away games;
4-1-3-1-1/4-1-3-2 Degeneration X - rest of easy home games, and away easy games (reading, torino, rayo);
1- Do you think i'am using right?
2- do you recomend other combination?
3- 4-1-3-1-1 or 4-1-3-2 Degeneration X?
 
tuffboy said:
4-1-4-1 Rock for hard home games (ex: Barcelona, City, Bayern, Real Madrid etc), and away games;
4-1-3-1-1/4-1-3-2 Degeneration X - rest of easy home games, and away easy games (reading, torino, rayo);
1- Do you think i'am using right?
2- do you recomend other combination?
3- 4-1-3-1-1 or 4-1-3-2 Degeneration X?
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I dunno mate. I haven't tried them in combinations. I always stick to one tactic :P
 
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