My best tactic for FM14

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I tested with my Rayo save to play Home with ticking off slower player , I dont think speeding the tactic up is that good but ticking on ''nothing'' increases the speed abit and is in my opinion better for home matches.

For people interested for testing here the 2 links again:

The home tactic with my small tweak: View attachment 441217
The away tactic with my tweak:View attachment 441216
 
I guess it is correct now, I mixed them up but you was 1 min too fast before i corrected myself ;)
 
MichaelNL said:
I noticed you also changed your central defenders instructions btw, You got too many through balls you put in a stopper?
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Oh yes, this was an issue on the 14.2 patch, the stopper will look to cut out through balls, and win headers from lobs over the top where the covering player will pick up any he misses.
 
Trying the final version and my side seems to be drawing way more games than we were when I was using your last version (played 6, drawn 4, won 2).

Any ideas to combat that or what could be causing it?

Still having 12 shots / 4 of them on target.

The shots off target amount is incredibly frustrating in this years FM.
 
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I've got big problems since 14.2., too.
Tactic doesn't work as smooth as before - It seems like the defence got a lot weaker against thru balls, and the strikers don't get CCC as often as they used to do. I've made a screenie with the results before the patch and after, always using the recommended tactic.

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Charlie 1873 said:
Trying the final version and my side seems to be drawing way more games than we were when I was using your last version (played 6, drawn 4, won 2).

Any ideas to combat that or what could be causing it?

Still having 12 shots / 4 of them on target.

The shots off target amount is incredibly frustrating in this years FM.
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I dont see this issue in my game, I have much less shots but almost none off target. Which team are you? Have you got players with, "tries first time shots", "shoots from distance" ppm? Do your players have good composure and decision makings?

LeChuck said:
I've got big problems since 14.2., too.
Tactic doesn't work as smooth as before - It seems like the defence got a lot weaker against thru balls, and the strikers don't get CCC as often as they used to do. I've made a screenie with the results before the patch and after, always using the recommended tactic.

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The defence was changed to combat the OP through balls on 14.2, other thing you can try is maybe sweeper keeper.
keep in mind there are change in tactical familiarity and also change to tactics, the team needs to get fully fluid again so 14.2 happening mid season has almost ruined everyones season.

greenriver said:
the last version doesn't work, not easy to goal at home or away
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insightful?
 
so is the new version working on 14.2 ? i havnt updated yet...and im mid way through my current season...dont know weather to update yet or not
 
this works very good if you use defensive line tip from jassar and use counter away from home and against top teams no matter who you play :)
 
Don't want to read all 73 pages. Any changes to the OP I should know about before testing this tactic?
 
Your original tactic has been the best I've used so far on FM14. Led my Feyenoord team to two consecutive Champions League finals, only to lose narrowly to Barca and PSG - I was arguably unlucky to lose both games but if my players don't take their chances there's not a lot you can do. Also worth noting I went unbeaten in the Eredivisie in my fourth season and only lost one game in my fifth, which was down to the 14.2 update as we stopped scoring as freely.

As I've only just noticed you've updated I'll have to download it, but I did make my own tweaks as I was having mixed results after the update - also I don't know if it's just me, but my team seem to be learning the tactics incredibly slow? Anyway, the tweaks I made were basically reactions to where I could see the tactic not working as fluid as before, whenever my false nine picked up the ball the wingers just weren't making enough runs in-behind like before so added the 'get further forward' and 'roam from position' player instruction to both wingers, as well the ST wasn't getting himself in the box not near enough as usual either whenever my wingers got down the line so changed his role to a DLF attack. Also changed the anchor man to a half back and CM support to DLP support. Changed mentality to control and lowered the tempo. Not huge tweaks but my team seems to be holding onto possession a lot better and we are rarely conceding any chances now.

I'll update my post tomorrow night showing screens of the success I had with the original tactic before the 14.2 update, my Feyenoord team were simply unplayable at times and for that I am forever in your debt :p
 
Still using this tactic and it does wonders for me. Haven't update to the latest patch though.
 
JohnWayve said:
Still using this tactic and it does wonders for me. Haven't update to the latest patch though.
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The new patch is having very mixed results, even with tactic being updated to suit it still isnt as consistent as it used to be. I'm very dissappointed with the patch. Still working on getting it right but when it goes well in one set of tests, I can run the same tests again and get very different results :(
 
Maybe the defensive line changes mentioned in other topics should be used here aswell to press up more against stronger teams and drop deeper to lure out weaker teams?
 
MichaelNL said:
Maybe the defensive line changes mentioned in other topics should be used here aswell to press up more against stronger teams and drop deeper to lure out weaker teams?
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I dont know the logic behind that, if it works then thats great, but pushing higher against a strong team seems illogical, it would make my team easy for a big team to play balls into space behind my defense, leaving my goalkeeper exposed to one on ones with technically gifted players.
Same with weaker teams, I wouldnt want them playing in my half of the pitch, I'd want my team to control the game in their half, instead of trying to hit them on the counter attack.
It also moves away from plug and play and to the dynamic play style. SI claims to support both styles of play.

Like i say though if it works brilliant :D

I'm just overly demotivated now after spending days of my life trying to fix the tactic :(
 
I am experimentating abit with the defensive line at the moment, for home matches pushing up higher gives me bigger scores, for away matches i dont really know if its better or not. The biggest flaw in my opinion in the current tactic lies in home matches where i loose too match points or win always with close scores, I still havent found a clear solution for it. The 14.2 tactic if you ask me isnt really any good but I really hope somehow we as community can get this tactic going again like it rocked in 14.1.4
 
MichaelNL said:
I am experimentating abit with the defensive line at the moment, for home matches pushing up higher gives me bigger scores, for away matches i dont really know if its better or not. The biggest flaw in my opinion in the current tactic lies in home matches where i loose too match points or win always with close scores, I still havent found a clear solution for it. The 14.2 tactic if you ask me isnt really any good but I really hope somehow we as community can get this tactic going again like it rocked in 14.1.4
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Im not gonna argue haha, I have had loads of support from various people with ideas upon ideas, i have tested them all and they all suffer the same issues,

90% of goals i concede come from my goalkeeper kicking or throwing the ball to an opposition striker and standing as he runs past him to score in an empty net,

or

My goalkeeper plays the ball to one of my defenders who takes a touch that looks more like a volleyed pass to an opposition striker who runs in and scores in an open net.

I have removed goalkeeper distributing to defenders to try to combat these issues and had no change in the outcome.
 
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