My Huge Tactics Testing Project (FM 2014)

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Congrats to both of you guys for the double-double!
Gimme few more minutes to upload the final results of ROUND 4.

Zero Sea said:
My V2 Come out

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/shar...-zero-seas-rage-100-_-real-343-ml-mr-3st.html
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Well done mate! Your 4231 is giving better results than the 343.

krunccrni said:
hope you will have time to test this one,

2-5-3

krunccrni 253 overlord.tac - Speedy Share - upload your files here

thanks, nice thread like every year!
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Mate, you should make a thread for your tactic here. It almost win a Tripple with Chelsea.
To be honest, I hate the shape of the formation, but heck, its very consistent!
 
RESULTS UPDATE

ROUND 4
Patch: 14.1.3
Mode: Normal
Competition: World Super League
Progress: COMPLETED!
Tactics entry:

Super League A
BARCELONA: Iamauser (3 - Lets Score Goals)
CHELSEA: Krunccrni (253 overlord)
BAYERN: Miles (Dullnut Counter Att)
MAN CITY: Seanhrfc (Arrigo Sacchi 4-4-2 V2)

Super League B
JUVENTUS: Shagunner (1ATK_ Diamond No Defence)
MAN UNITED: StueyRob (ForeverFM14)
PARIS SG: Wampley (Wee Free Men Final)
REAL MADRID: Zero Sea (V2 4231L Rage)

Leagues:
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Cup:
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Playoff:
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Selected Playoff Matches:
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List of Winners:
- League A: Krunccrni
- League B: Zero Sea
- Best offence: Krunccrni
- Best defence: Seanhrfc
- Cup: Krunccrni
- Playoff: Zero Sea

Speacial Achievements:
- We have a double-double!
- Krunccrni won League A and the Cup.
- Zero Sea won League B and the Playoffs.

Note:
- Post #2 (Table of the Hall of Fame) has been updated!
 
a_ilfandy said:
Congrats to both of you guys for the double-double!

Mate, you should make a thread for your tactic here. It almost win a Tripple with Chelsea.
To be honest, I hate the shape of the formation, but heck, its very consistent!
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Thanks for testing, to be honest I made it for my testing of AI behavior, due to fullback/wingback bugs and lots of goals from crosses, so I kind of just remove them, hehe who needs them anyway?!?
I dislike the shape too, but its kind of cool to see that its working so good with only 2 defenders.
Thx, keep up the good work
 
Thanks! You have done a great work!

My 4231 looks better than 343.

Because 343 needs 3 DC and 3 ST, the players of most original team are not enough.

4231 is suitable for the majority of the teams
 
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Hi, can i suggest that you do a league test which uses the same players for each team so we can get a more accurate result for each tactic?

Secondly, can we remove the cup playoff as the randomness in cup playoff are too random? And can we add in more AI teams too?

Lastly, during this years FM14.3.X, can we hold a finale competition for those highly recommended and best tested result tactic to have a so-called "Tactics World Cup"?

How do you think? By doing so, we are giving a fair condition for all tactic we are going to test ^^
 
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Really appreciate your work a_ilfandy.

But for me personally, and im sure for many others too, it would VERY interesting to see you do a test for lower end teams. like the 3 teams expected to be relegated from the top leagues in England, Spain, Italy etc.

When you play as Madrid, Barca, Juve, Man City etc.... most thought out tactics (with good team talks etc..) will win you the leagues and perform well... But it takes a really special tactic to make small teams perform well.

What do you think? or would that be boring.. :)
 
Here's a tactic you could try, it's a 4-3-3 with a DM and wingers (4-1-2-2-1)
I can't stop winning with it
4-1-2-2-1 PWNAGE

Using it home and away without any adjustments, no shouts no nothing... works great with instant results.

Give it a try and let me know :)
 
I was playing with Lazio and now with Inter, winning the league with Lazio in the first season along with the EURO cup was awesome with them.
As for OI my assman is set to take care of'em, I want the hassle to be as low as possible :D

cheers
 
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TBH I dunno, I started using them(set the assistant to do that) shortly after I made the tactic, so I'm not sure but in theory they should help :)
 
Julian8 said:
Here's a tactic you could try, it's a 4-3-3 with a DM and wingers (4-1-2-2-1)
I can't stop winning with it
4-1-2-2-1 PWNAGE

Using it home and away without any adjustments, no shouts no nothing... works great with instant results.

Give it a try and let me know :)
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Got it! You are in ROUND 6. I'll not be using instant results though. :)

Shinku said:
Can you test my tactic too? If yes I will upload it.
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Sure, please upload it soon. So I can put you in ROUND 6.
 
xiaoicy said:
Hi, can i suggest that you do a league test which uses the same players for each team so we can get a more accurate result for each tactic?

Secondly, can we remove the cup playoff as the randomness in cup playoff are too random? And can we add in more AI teams too?

Lastly, during this years FM14.3.X, can we hold a finale competition for those highly recommended and best tested result tactic to have a so-called "Tactics World Cup"?

How do you think? By doing so, we are giving a fair condition for all tactic we are going to test ^^
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About the 'all equal teams' issue, its actually been discussed few pages back and in the end of the OP (Post #1).
The same with the 'round of the champions', I will definetely pit all the winners together at one point. :)

As for the playoffs, I think it serves the intended purpose, that is to give all qualified teams an one-match-off to beat the favorites. Thats why we have seen 4th placed teams won the playoffs. TRUE, it may look 'random' because so many things can happen in one game at a neutral venue with extra-time and penalties shootout, many call it 'luck'. Atleast, we have the league and the cup to evaluate the more consistent tactics.

PLUS, dont forget, they do need to finish 4th in the league to qualify for the playoffs, so in some ways, they are 'qualified' playoff winners. :)

All in all, thanks for your review and suggestions.

dutchbrit84 said:
Really appreciate your work a_ilfandy.

But for me personally, and im sure for many others too, it would VERY interesting to see you do a test for lower end teams. like the 3 teams expected to be relegated from the top leagues in England, Spain, Italy etc.

When you play as Madrid, Barca, Juve, Man City etc.... most thought out tactics (with good team talks etc..) will win you the leagues and perform well... But it takes a really special tactic to make small teams perform well.

What do you think? or would that be boring.. :)
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That is why, I'm re-formating the teams in this round. Check the latest results update (next post) for ROUND 5.
This time, I'm testing them on the Skrill teams. BUT, this is not an attempt to make it fully fair and equal.
I still want to give the tactics the advantage of being tested on a better team (based on media prediction).
But atleast it will level the playing field quite a bit. And you will see that some tactics struggling with this format.
Its more like small vs smaller teams. Instead of giant vs big teams in the previous rounds. Lets see how it goes.. :)
 
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RESULTS UPDATE (With the Skrill League Teams)

ROUND 5
Patch: 14.1.3
Mode: Normal
Competition: Skrill Super League (NEW!)
Progress: 4-5 league games
Tactics entry:

Skrill League A
CHESTER: Chrissy (P2_-_Attack4-2-2-2)
GATESHEAD: Drlw (4-4-2 drlw1980)
GRIMSBY: HalaMadrid (4231 #2)
LUTON: Ickyby (4-3-3 Osasuna)

Skrill League B
ALDERSHOT: Kirk (Ravekin's 4-4-2)
FOREST GREEN: Niclas (catenaccio by niclas70)
KIDDERMINSTER: Nsickboy (Carlo Ancelloti's 4-2-3-1)
WREXHAM: Spiattalo (Arrigo Sacchi's 4-2-3-1 tweak)

Leagues:
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Selected League Matches:
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Cup:
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Selected Cup Matches:
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Notes:
- League A: Ickyby 5 points behind the leaders.
- League B: Spiattalo is one of the three co-leaders.
- Ickyby and Niclas are still unbeaten.
- Best offence: Spiattalo and Nsickboy (12 goals)
- Best defence: Niclas (3 conceded)
- Cup: Drlw knocked out in the 1st round.
 
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Loving the updates dude. Thanks for the effort involved. Any chance you could test my Chrissy's Pressure Balanced tactic? It will be my final one for fm14. Its the finished product.
 
Chrissy Dude said:
Loving the updates dude. Thanks for the effort involved. Any chance you could test my Chrissy's Pressure Balanced tactic? It will be my final one for fm14. Its the finished product.
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Sure, why not, gimme the link, and let me know which one do you want me to test, that is if you have more than one tactics in that link.
 
Thanks a_ilfandy for your reply. Btw, can i ask if whether the setting for players to play for a match is pick by the tactic maker itself for example: (preferred type of player for wingers or MC) or ask assistant to pick for you?

And, whether c.ronaldo is playing winger or ST?

Thanks.
 
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a_ilfandy said:
That is why, I'm re-formating the teams in this round. Check the latest results update (next post) for ROUND 5.
This time, I'm testing them on the Skrill teams. BUT, this is not an attempt to make it fully fair and equal.
I still want to give the tactics the advantage of being tested on a better team (based on media prediction).
But atleast it will level the playing field quite a bit. And you will see that some tactics struggling with this format.
Its more like small vs smaller teams. Instead of giant vs big teams in the previous rounds. Lets see how it goes.. :)
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Great to know you will be testing with some average teams :-)

Could you please include my tactic into your next set of tests?

Zippyshare.com - 4-1-2-1-2 Niche (dutchbrit).tac

I sent u a private message with some info on the tactic. Thanks (A)
 
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