Roles and duties combinations in football

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I learned some stuff about what roles work well together, so decided to jot it down...

Disclaimer:

Do not ever use more than one playmaker. Dlp if using a less agressive strategy, advplay or treq if using a more agressive strategy.

If not using at least two players that run from deep often, like inside forward attack or winger attack, do not use a dlf or treq as striker. Use a poacher or advanced forward or target man instead, some role that can work without support.

Duties: Balance them always. Never use more than 3-4 attack duties. Never use all same duties in one area. Mix more. You need as many blue (defensive) duties as you have attacking, or more.

Roles:

Sweeper keeper - use if you don't have a covering defender or sweeper, otherwise use regular gk.

Defenders - Use same role and defend duties if playing on offside trap. Stopper duties are usefull with more agressive strategies and high defensive line, and if you have attacking fullbacks or wingbacks. Chose one cover duty or a sweeper if playing a normal or deep defensive line. With DM's in your formation, there is less need for stopper duties as DM's will take care of high balls and closing down early. Limited defender if you just want them to clear the ball, central defender if you want them to keep possession, and bpd if you want him to start counter attacks.

Full back support - usefull in combo with inside forward attack, winger attack and wide mid attack

Full back attack - usefull in combo with inside forward support, winger support, wide mid support or def wing support/defend

Wing back support - usefull in combo with adv play attack, or if playing without flanks

wing back attack - usefull with adv play support or if playing without flanks

Complete wing back - same as above

DM defend - usefull instead of a bwmd, use if playing a high line and agressive strategy

DM support - usefull if you need a box to box player in DM position

DLP - usefull to bring the ball out of defence, should be used with less agressive strategies, and as only playmaker

BWMD - usefull to brake up attacks, should be used with more agressive tactics

Box to box - usefull if you need to connect offense and defense, for example between a DM and an adv play/treq. Also needed when using wingers to get on end of crosses. Also usefull against oppositions AMC

CM attack - usefull in stretching defenses, for example, an inside forward goes into box and joins your striker, while cm attack dribbles wide...

Adv play. - if playing him in AMC position, support if you have nobody in CM position , or attack if you do. Should be used with more agressive strategies and shorter passing style, and be your only playmaker. Can roam.

Treq - same as adv play attack. the only two roles that should roam...if used as striker, have at least two players that run from deep often to support him (cm attack, winger attack or inside forward attack)...

Inside forward attack - should be used if playing a deeper def line, so he has space to run, should be supported by fbs. He is effectively your number nine and main goalscorer, so you need a number ten instead of other goalscorers

Inside forward support - usefull if using attacking fullbacks, can be used with all defensive lines but works best with high

Winger Attack - should be used if playing a deeper def line, so he has space to run, usefull for stretching defences, and crosses from out wide. Should be supported by fbs

Poacher - should be used with a deeper defensive line, so he has space to run. Can be used as target man with him set to run onto balls. Should use drill crossess

ADV. forward. - same as poacher, except float crosses.

Target man - should be used with a high defensive line and agressive strategy...


That's it from me, for now....
 
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"Do not ever use more than one playmaker"

I'm using 2 playmakers and I'm having a fantastic display from them both
 
"Do not ever use more than one playmaker"

I'm using 2 playmakers and I'm having a fantastic display from them both

So which one of them has advantage in receiving the ball? And which one of them creates attack?
 
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So which one of them has advantage in receiving the ball? And which one them creates attack?

In my experience in playing with two DLP's in the CM spot neither really has an advantage in receiving the ball. But it allows us to A]Quickly shuttle the ball from left flank to right flank and B] Not allow the opposition to target my one playmaker.

I have experimented with a CM-CM-AM triangle of two DLP's and and ADVP but I have not gone that deep on it, but it seemed OK in short test.

Long story short, Both create the attack, the team will search out either of them and will find the guy in the best position to receive a pass. The key is to not play too fluid a style of football if you have 6 or 7 specialist roles out on the field.
 
In my experience in playing with two DLP's in the CM spot neither really has an advantage in receiving the ball. But it allows us to A]Quickly shuttle the ball from left flank to right flank and B] Not allow the opposition to target my one playmaker.

I have experimented with a CM-CM-AM triangle of two DLP's and and ADVP but I have not gone that deep on it, but it seemed OK in short test.

Long story short, Both create the attack, the team will search out either of them and will find the guy in the best position to receive a pass. The key is to not play too fluid a style of football if you have 6 or 7 specialist roles out on the field.

Well, in fm13 you could have 2 or more playmakers, but game designated just one for that role. Or you could change it to someone you wanted, but never more than one. I don't think it's different here. Only now you don't know who that is, so you should really stick with just one. Regarding opposition targeting him, you can perhaps allow him to roam as I already wrote, but it's not required for dlp, as he is sitting deep...only one of them will actually create attack....
 
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i 2 am using 2 dlp with great effect and the stats r almost the same at the end of a match terms key passes assists passes made etc never a lot in it if it is just one playmaker i cant tell as their so similiar has created a nice double pivot in my team
 
So which one of them has advantage in receiving the ball? And which one of them creates attack?

I have an AP on attack in the AMC and a AP on support in CM and they both create attacks but the AP in AMC create more though
 
This is the entire problem with FM, both seem to work, yet _ i fully agree with you Igneos and in my experience, when I used a dlps in cm and aps in Amc - the dlp was useless.

Whether I a dlpd and apa would work better. I guess in a fluid tactic in a 4231 for instance, using the cam as the apa and setting 1 cm to dlpd and the other to cms / b2b / bwm, the playmakers both work an area of the pitch. In theory.....

Two players sounds wrong, but people seem to be getting it to work. I hate this game so much, I'm going to go an rage quit some matches now. lol
 
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