Ronaldo or Messi?

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Ronaldo or Messi?

  • Ronaldo

    Votes: 235 28.1%
  • Messi

    Votes: 600 71.9%

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Ooops guess we were right about Messi ;) all over Vidic and Evra like a fly on **** :D,

Meh, one game doesnt change things. Ronaldo is, overall, the better player. Which is not to say Messi isnt any good, he is.
 
Meh, one game doesnt change things. Ronaldo is, overall, the better player. Which is not to say Messi isnt any good, he is.

Erm point is this year Messi has been better, More goals, more assists better all round than Ronaldo .

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how does london keep england afloat.

Square Mile,

In the 1970's when the Saudi's pulled their money out of the Exchange we couldn't even afford the leccy, thats what's really keeping us afloat lol.

We have no Primary or Secondary industries.

Simple.
 
Erm point is this year Messi has been better, More goals, more assists better all round than Ronaldo .

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Square Mile,

In the 1970's when the Saudi's pulled their money out of the Exchange we couldn't even afford the leccy, thats what's really keeping us afloat lol.

We have no Primary or Secondary industries.

Simple.

you keep the country afloat, the country wouldnt even be what it is without the industrial revolution which was all in the north an midlands, but then london takes all the profit an keeps it for themselves, but it doesnt matter, cos in the north we're stronger ppl, an thats why manchester + liverpool = 4 mil people and 47 league titles an 8 champs leagues an london with 12 mil = 18 titles an 0 champs leagues, north is better an london wouldnt even exist without our industry
 
you keep the country afloat, the country wouldnt even be what it is without the industrial revolution which was all in the north an midlands, but then london takes all the profit an keeps it for themselves, but it doesnt matter, cos in the north we're stronger ppl, an thats why manchester + liverpool = 4 mil people and 47 league titles an 8 champs leagues an london with 12 mil = 18 titles an 0 champs leagues, north is better an london wouldnt even exist without our industry
suck on that cockney loving ******.
 
you keep the country afloat, the country wouldnt even be what it is without the industrial revolution which was all in the north an midlands, but then london takes all the profit an keeps it for themselves, but it doesnt matter, cos in the north we're stronger ppl, an thats why manchester + liverpool = 4 mil people and 47 league titles an 8 champs leagues an london with 12 mil = 18 titles an 0 champs leagues, north is better an london wouldnt even exist without our industry

I see, then why don't you apply to be your own Country "North England" and see how long you'd last with no Coal, no factories, no Car Companies, Having industry 200 Years ago doesn't help with today, where all you have is nothing but Morrisons, Football Clubs with hundreds of millions of debt owned by scum bag Americans and Little Chef's for miles around, and no London Subsidy to keep your flagging agricultural and city economies going.... I can't wait for the Scots to try it....

:D


To be fair though I doubt even London will be doing so well in the future considering the finance sector and foreign investment buyouts... but then you can blame it on Thatcher... from Grantham wasn't she... thats up north.

PS; you seem to think that I'm just saying London this London that because I live there and have some kind of bias/sycophancy for the place... And though I do live here in London it's not exactly the best place on earth, All I'm saying is that if you stop your blind and bias defence for the North for one minute and go have a poke around you'll see that like it or not London is really the country's biggest earner, shame it's run by twonks and politicos but then so is the rest of the world.
 
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i wud sat messi because he is just on a different level to ronaldo i mean messi can do everything ronaldo can and more and messi is young and can only get better he is just a god
 
messi is not a better all rounder as he cannot hit a free kick etc. some people are saying that messi has scored more goals this season look on career stats ronaldo is whipping him on that
 
messi is not a better all rounder as he cannot hit a free kick etc. some people are saying that messi has scored more goals this season look on career stats ronaldo is whipping him on that


Messi 160 Apps 80 Goals.

Ronaldo 323 Apps 123 Goals.

Comparatively Messi is ahead 80 goals to 62 per 160 Apps

And if Messi scores more this year and next then he'll be way over Ronaldo's.

Ronaldo has already made his goals though,

But then Messi can now prove he can make more, ultimately time and natural talent are on Messi's side.
 
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messi everytime because he works harder than ronaldo and uses he ablity
however i belive ronaldo is a better player but with the media and manager praise
he has got too cocky and aint producing the goods
 
messi is not a better all rounder as he cannot hit a free kick etc. some people are saying that messi has scored more goals this season look on career stats ronaldo is whipping him on that

But c ronaldo isnt a GREAT freekick taker anyway? yes he does score goals but all he does is hit the ball in the spot that makes the ball swin all over the place..which makes it hard for the keeper to save nothing special nearly 95% of ronaldo's goals from freekicks are flukes or a miss judgement by the keeper(eg almunia in champions league)

no affence but i could do that...not as good but decent.
 
I see, then why don't you apply to be your own Country "North England" and see how long you'd last with no Coal, no factories, no Car Companies, Having industry 200 Years ago doesn't help with today, where all you have is nothing but Morrisons, Football Clubs with hundreds of millions of debt owned by scum bag Americans and Little Chef's for miles around, and no London Subsidy to keep your flagging agricultural and city economies going.... I can't wait for the Scots to try it....

:D


To be fair though I doubt even London will be doing so well in the future considering the finance sector and foreign investment buyouts... but then you can blame it on Thatcher... from Grantham wasn't she... thats up north.

PS; you seem to think that I'm just saying London this London that because I live there and have some kind of bias/sycophancy for the place... And though I do live here in London it's not exactly the best place on earth, All I'm saying is that if you stop your blind and bias defence for the North for one minute and go have a poke around you'll see that like it or not London is really the country's biggest earner, shame it's run by twonks and politicos but then so is the rest of the world.

1st of all the money you're giving us now, is what we made for the country with the industry anyway, an the car plants, vauxhall is in ellesmere port in merseyside, land rover is in the midlands, rolls royce was founded by a manc, dno wer they make em now like, so not too sure where the car industry is in london there mate, also, a lot of coal comes from wales, and the town i lived in in manchester used to have a coal mine too, and also theres some in cornwall, that is the south but still not london, an aberdeen in scotland has all the oil in the uk, a lot of the best ships have been manafactured in liverpool, an also barrow makes the nuclear subs for the navy, and then theres a load of bae systems around the north west which help in the design and building of fighter jets for the u.s an uk, an there always be an industry for war materials, so we still have a good industry there now without london
 
1st of all the money you're giving us now, is what we made for the country with the industry anyway, an the car plants, vauxhall is in ellesmere port in merseyside, land rover is in the midlands, rolls royce was founded by a manc, dno wer they make em now like, so not too sure where the car industry is in london there mate, also, a lot of coal comes from wales, and the town i lived in in manchester used to have a coal mine too, and also theres some in cornwall, that is the south but still not london, an aberdeen in scotland has all the oil in the uk, a lot of the best ships have been manafactured in liverpool, an also barrow makes the nuclear subs for the navy, and then theres a load of bae systems around the north west which help in the design and building of fighter jets for the u.s an uk, an there always be an industry for war materials, so we still have a good industry there now without london

Lol I don't think you got what I was saying...

1) London has no large scale manufacturing

2) All the Car Companies you mention are either gone or going.

3) 99% of Coal Mines are closed

4) Scotlands Oil Reserves in the North sea are drying up 15 years max

5) The Shipbuilding industry in this country relies on orders from the Government and Big Businesses in London and across the world, Furthermore Shipbuilding has hit a slump... In addition it costs to buy in raw materials like Iron/Steel/Rubber etc. which we don't produce here.

6) BAE systems is downsizing and in truth the global market for arms is firmly in America with Lockheed Martin, Halliburton, Carslyle Group etc.

7) The few interests BAE have in the UK are in Barrow, which has only had 1 submarine order in 3 years.

8) Regardless of the historic worth of the north or south, thats either here nor there, How does that impact on the survival of the UK's economy today ? It doesn't thats the point.

9) Without the finance sector in London and the Foreign money that flows through it the country couldn't afford to power factories, shipbuilding etc, In addition the Tertiary industries (Offices, Retail etc) rely on it and they employ the most people along with the British Government.

10) once again you seem to percieve that I'm saying it just to bluster about how great London is.. I'm not, I'm just being rational and saying that the Money in this country as of the 21st Century is in London.

Finally... What do you think would happen if the Square Mile disappeared tomorrow, I'd love ot get rid of the corrupt bastards that run it but ultimately this country will bankrupt within 24 hours.

I'm not saying that the North isn't a great place, I was saying that foreign players from warmer climates may not want to go there for that reason or for the reason that the culture is very different from the southern European/American culture they are used to. What I was also saying is that without London the north would collapse as would the rest of the country.
 
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Lol I don't think you got what I was saying...

1) London has no large scale manufacturing

2) All the Car Companies you mention are either gone or going.

3) 99% of Coal Mines are closed

4) Scotlands Oil Reserves in the North sea are drying up 15 years max

5) The Shipbuilding industry in this country relies on orders from the Government and Big Businesses in London and across the world, Furthermore Shipbuilding has hit a slump... In addition it costs to buy in raw materials like Iron/Steel/Rubber etc. which we don't produce here.

6) BAE systems is downsizing and in truth the global market for arms is firmly in America with Lockheed Martin, Halliburton, Carslyle Group etc.

7) The few interests BAE have in the UK are in Barrow, which has only had 1 submarine order in 3 years.

8) Regardless of the historic worth of the north or south, thats either here nor there, How does that impact on the survival of the UK's economy today ? It doesn't thats the point.

9) Without the finance sector in London and the Foreign money that flows through it the country couldn't afford to power factories, shipbuilding etc, In addition the Tertiary industries (Offices, Retail etc) rely on it and they employ the most people along with the British Government.

10) once again you seem to percieve that I'm saying it just to bluster about how great London is.. I'm not, I'm just being rational and saying that the Money in this country as of the 21st Century is in London.

Finally... What do you think would happen if the Square Mile disappeared tomorrow, I'd love ot get rid of the corrupt bastards that run it but ultimately this country will bankrupt within 24 hours.

I'm not saying that the North isn't a great place, I was saying that foreign players from warmer climates may not want to go there for that reason or for the reason that the culture is very different from the southern European/American culture they are used to. What I was also saying is that without London the north would collapse as would the rest of the country.

lol ok, i think we have reached a compromise then, still nice to talk to ya
 
**** this. why does this thread appear as new when the last post was 5 hours ago.
on topic. messi will win all the awards but ronaldo is not far away. iniesta is up there definetly. gerrard nowhere near.
 
It depends probs,

If it was like ronaldo in the middle then it would be messi but i think ronaldo has the skills to get past people with skills

But messi... well ge just moves left and then hes like at the goal and celebrating the goal before the defender can see him move.

So i think messi but ronaldo is still good.
 
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