Some thought about the testing leagues.

[Bierhof]

I have found a way to stop players from ever moaning about 1st team football so never have to deal with that problem.

Will, please could you tell how you did that?

Thanks.

 

[Will1981]

Will, please could you tell how you did that?

Thanks.

it wont work in a normal game environment.

 

[Bierhof]

it wont work in a normal game environment.

but you could you say it anyway?

 

[Will1981]

but you could you say it anyway?

I change all the players used to "retiring after current spell with club" so they never ask for transfer.

 

[callamity]

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getting more fluid,

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

I've added additional section to OP

CRITICAL IMPORTANCE OF THE CORNER SETUP FOR THE FINAL RESULT​

If you look at the results of the testing you'll see that many tactics have about 25% of total goals scored from corners!

I won't explain in details how "short" corner setup works and just say that Strikers and Wide Midfielders play critical role in it and for many tactics these positions NEVER shouldn't take the corners because if they do then the corner setup STOP working and the number of goal for corner will reduce 3-4 times!

I NEVER have seen that anyone who tests tactics said that he sets corner takers as recommended by the author. What does it mean? It means that in this case the "destiny" of the testing in hand of random because if you don't set corner takers then AI chooses them on its taste.

You can just look at any testing table and see how varies number of goals from corners for different tactics and this means that some tactics got lucky and AI chose "the right" corner taker and some tactics weren't such lucky and AI chose "the wrong" corner taker.

Even if the guy who makes testing want to setup corner taker he should know what players will be used on these positions but as we know everyone lets assistant manager to pick the team so in case he has no idea what players will used on these positions.

Anyone with little FM experience can tell how important is additional goals from corners for the final result and we are talking here not about few goals we are talking about 25% amount of all goals scored.

 

[maludabob]

I've added additional section to OP

CRITICAL IMPORTANCE OF THE CORNER SETUP FOR THE FINAL RESULT​

If you look at the results of the testing you'll see that many tactics have about 25% of total goals scored from corners!

I won't explain in details how "short" corner setup works and just say that Strikers and Wide Midfielders play critical role in it and for many tactics these positions NEVER shouldn't take the corners because if they do then the corner setup STOP working and the number of goal for corner will reduce 3-4 times!

I NEVER have seen that anyone who tests tactics said that he sets corner takers as recommended by the author. What does it mean? It means that in this case the "destiny" of the testing in hand of random because if you don't set corner takers then AI chooses them on its taste.

You can just look at any testing table and see how varies number of goals from corners for different tactics and this means that some tactics got lucky and AI chose "the right" corner taker and some tactics weren't such lucky and AI chose "the wrong" corner taker.

Even if the guy who makes testing want to setup corner taker he should know what players will be used on these positions but as we know everyone lets assistant manager to pick the team so in case he has no idea what players will used on these positions.

Anyone with little FM experience can tell how important is additional goals from corners for the final result and we are talking here not about few goals we are talking about 25% amount of all goals scored.

Awesome stuff!

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

I am always trying to improve the accuracy of the testing as much as I possible can.

Will, it also requites to set at the same level corner, free kick and penalty attributes for all players in the testing team because different positions in tactics could take corner and everyone should have the the equal condition condition.

I suggest to set it at "14".

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

Btw, this change may slightly high their CA and you need edit it too

 

[Will1981]

who would you say is best out of these 3 for MR/AMR/ML/AML/CAM

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

who would you say is best out of these 3 for MR/AMR/ML/AML/CAM

All of them are very bad suites for the testing prupose because they CA has been inefficiently spent. I wouldn't take any of them because all of them have many issues.

I could take only Diego Tardelli only if edit his Agility to 16, Passing to 16, Long Shot to 13, Composure to 15, Flair to 15 and also need to reduce Work Rate to 11 and Teamwork to 13 and Aggression to 9.

It's very important that the players in the testing should be equal and universal and in order to achive that their attributes shouldn't give advantage to any tactical approach.

 

[Will1981]

All of them are very bad suites for the testing prupose because they CA has been inefficiently spent. I wouldn't take any of them because all of them have many issues.

I could take only Diego Tardelli only if edit his Agility to 16, Passing to 16, Long Shot to 13, Composure to 15, Flair to 15 and also need to reduce Work Rate to 11 and Teamwork to 13 and Aggression to 9.

It's very important that the players in the testing should be equal and universal and in order to achive that their attributes shouldn't give advantage to any tactical approach.

who would you suggest for there and for striker

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

who would you say is best out of these 3 for MR/AMR/ML/AML/CAM

Will, in your latest test assistant manager picked "Only Left Footed" player to play as the left inside forward... I simple can imagine more dumb decision...

and that why you should make all players in the testing team equal, it will give all tactics equal conditions and insure from dumb decision of assistant manager.

 

[Will1981]

players done so far.

 

[Will1981]

Will, in your latest test assistant manager picked "Only Left Footed" player to play as the left inside forward... I simple can imagine more dumb decision...

and that why you should make all players in the testing team equal, it will give all tactics equal conditions and insure from dumb decision of assistant manager.

I am making them all equal 145 CA/150 PA and half left footed / half right footed just need to do winger and striker any suggestions of who to clone.

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

who would you suggest for there and for striker

I gave you in other thread the list of the players that are optimal and universals for any tactical approach… do you have it?

 

[Will1981]

I gave you in other thread the list of the players that are optimal and universals for any tactical approach… do you have it?

no deleted that thread

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

players done so far.

Nope, these players are too strong and what is the most important they are unrealistically strong. It will be the best team in the world … even stronger than Barcelona… what the point to test with such team?

I just looked at Full Backs attributes and they are monstrous.

 

[Will1981]

Nope, these players are too strong and what is the most important they are unrealistically strong. It will be the best team in the world … even stronger than Barcelona… what the point to test with such team?

I just looked at Full Backs attributes and they are monstrous.

that is Gaya

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

no deleted that thread

Ok, If you want can give this list again. These players are ideal for the test. They are balanced from every side.