Tactic Premier League 16.2 (Testers Welcome)

[tuffboy]

Heh... I re-tested Knap's 451 and by some mysterious way got much worse result than he posted… Ohh… I'm sure that it's just randomness and he didn't replay matches to get slightly better results for his tactics... but I can't understand why the similar happens when I re-test other tactics that were tested by their authors from the table? That's a big mystery! View attachment 1000834View attachment 1000836View attachment 1000837View attachment 1000835

I understand what u are saying, but analysing the results, most of your loses was by one goal, so it was i tight games maybe, take a lot of stats os lose games and see if u deserve too lose, and this things....how many goals u scored and conced ?

 

[Will1981]

ok so tonight i thonk i am gonna try devastator v7 and maluk v3...and i will see waht knap tatics have been tested...and if some tatic of his thread wasnt tested i will test too

I am testing Devastator v7 now but feel free to test it aswell if you want.

 

[Will1981]

Heh... I re-tested Knap's 451 and by some mysterious way got much worse result than he posted…

Ohh… I'm sure that it's just randomness and he didn't replay matches to get slightly better results for his tactics... but I can't understand why the similar happens when I re-test other tactics that were tested by their authors from the table?

That's a big mystery!

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have you got the rest of the stats for that test mate, goals, yellow cards, red cards & goals from corners.

 

[Jesseh]

Heh... I re-tested Knap's 451 and by some mysterious way got much worse result than he posted…

Ohh… I'm sure that it's just randomness and he didn't replay matches to get slightly better results for his tactics... but I can't understand why the similar happens when I re-test other tactics that were tested by their authors from the table?

That's a big mystery!

I trust knap as a tactician a lot, as he released succesful tactics for past FMs, but as he was concerned on his topic, it`s not very reliable to test tactics this way, so much randomness. I tested some tactics reloading 30 matches with the same tactic on Will`s past save and sometimes we get 6-0, other we lose 8-1. Honestly we can`t be sure of anything on those standard tests. On my experience FMT instant results seems to be a little bit less random than full FM.

Probably we would need full seasons played properly, not simulating and trying to follow the same pattern for all tactics, to see if anything changes or it`s all too random.

 

[Kinchev]

so it was i tight games maybe, take a lot of stats os lose games and see if u deserve too lose, and this things....how many goals u scored and conced ?

As you can see on my screenshots when I re-tested Knap's 451 I had only +61 GD but he posted screenshots when he had +105 GD

Ohh... I'm sure that we should blame the stupid randomness for that…

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Btw, I've almost re-tested your tweak and it looks like it'll be another surprising result

 

[tuffboy]

As you can see on my screenshots when I re-tested Knap's 451 I had only +61 GD but he posted screenshots when he had +105 GD Ohh... I'm sure that we should blame the stupid randomness for that… View attachment 1000842 View attachment 1000843Btw, I've almost re-tested your tweak and it looks like it'll be another surprising result

feel free to share mate

 

[tuffboy]

sometimes we get 6-0, other we lose 8-1.

In TFF test u see this a lot of times u play 8 times with each team and i remember lose 7-1 with Chelsea and next game Win 5-0...it a lot os circunstancies in the game in real life some times happen too, like Real Barça, Benfica Porto...and a lot more

 

[tuffboy]

I am testing Devastator v7 now but feel free to test it aswell if you want.

U r not using OI's right ? he says the OI's are very important so i will test with OI's and try see if it was much more diference between my and your results...if u prefer i test without OIS i will test too

 

[Will1981]

U r not using OI's right ? he says the OI's are very important so i will test with OI's and try see if it was much more diference between my and your results...if u prefer i test without OIS i will test too

I am using his OI's I always use the author's OI's if they suggest any.

 

[tuffboy]

I am using his OI's I always use the author's OI's if they suggest any.

Ohhh ok i never use OI's in my test's

 

[Will1981]

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TACTIC	TESTED BY	PLD	WON	DRN	LST	FOR	AG	GD	PTS	YEL	RED	GFC
FM16.2Knap451	Knap	60	45	9	6	135	30	105	144			17
FM16.24132app	Knap	60	44	9	7	135	33	102	141		5	11
2233 very fluid attacking	Will1981	60	43	10	7	187	76	111	139	135	5	19
Domination v1	Eth01	60	42	12	6	154	59	95	138	117	3	14
Qetesh & Ladly tweak by Tuff 41122	tuffboy	60	43	7	10	136	45	91	136	124	7	10
Bantons 3 Ts	bantons	60	42	9	9	135	67	89	135	101	3	13
Impregnenator	Lillen81	60	41	9	10	170	75	95	132		6	12
Rogers Reborn2	tuffboy	60	36	16	8	102	42	60	124	99	4	7
343 stable v5	Raid on	60	38	9	13	125	72	53	123	55	1	11
4-2-3-1 for patch 16.2	tuffboy	60	40	6	14	115	69	46	123	112	6	14
TFF DEVASTATOR V6	Will1981	60	38	8	14	118	55	63	122	122	6	9
GivingItLaldy - DM's high tempo	tuffboy	60	35	14	11	141	71	70	119	107	2	12
Mahluk Taktik v1	Will1981	60	36	9	15	143	70	73	117	124	4	16
Gatling Project update	Will1981	60	34	10	16	147	85	62	112	51	2	14
Storm	Will1981	60	33	12	15	144	75	69	111	119	5	17
TFF DEVASTATOR V7	Will1981	60	34	8	18	120	65	55	110	111	6	4

 

[Joekes]

Its in his thread

i can't find it aswel?

 

[Kinchev]

feel free to share mate

Ok... here we go

I got worse result than you posted for your tactic... 123 pts vs 136 pts and +66 GD vs + 91 GD...

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[tuffboy]

i can't find it aswel?

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/share-download-fm-16-tactics/352459-knap-tactics.html

 

[tuffboy]

Ok... here we go I got worse result than you posted for your tactic... 123 pts vs 136 pts and +66 GD vs + 91 GD...View attachment 1000849View attachment 1000850View attachment 1000851View attachment 1000852View attachment 1000853View attachment 1000854

Diference of points isnt to much, as u can see a lot of draws and with less 2 or 3 draws wll have quite of same points... DG the diference is signficant

 

[Deleted member 91052]

I always play with editor off so will need to check screen. I know with CIV V game of month, they can check valid upload files for tampering and number of times saved etc. If anyone has any idea how that type of system could work, it may be a possibility to make the league more robust.

If you check back to 442 screenshots, I also played 60 games with TFF league. I am therefore checking my results in both leagues and also real games to check the validity in testing in this way for my own tactics.

Just seen Poll and in my view its your database, and you should decide.

 

[Kinchev]

Haha... Will, you are going to remove the tactics that were tested by their authors and so what?

Authors just will register fake accounts and post their results under those fake accounts...

Will, I'm just amazed with your nativity...

 

[macca72]

Haha... Will, you are going to remove the tactics that were testes by their authors and so what?

Authors just will register fake accounts and post their results under those fake accounts...

Will, I'm just amazed with your nativity...

I love the baby Jesus too.

 

[Will1981]

Ok... here we go

I got worse result than you posted for your tactic... 123 pts vs 136 pts and +66 GD vs + 91 GD...

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added to leaderboard.

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TACTIC	TESTED BY	PLD	WON	DRN	LST	FOR	AG	GD	PTS	YEL	RED	GFC
FM16.2Knap451	Knap	60	45	9	6	135	30	105	144			17
FM16.24132app	Knap	60	44	9	7	135	33	102	141		5	11
2233 very fluid attacking	Will1981	60	43	10	7	187	76	111	139	135	5	19
Domination v1	Eth01	60	42	12	6	154	59	95	138	117	3	14
Qetesh & Ladly tweak by Tuff 41122	tuffboy	60	43	7	10	136	45	91	136	124	7	10
Bantons 3 Ts	bantons	60	42	9	9	135	67	89	135	101	3	13
Impregnenator	Lillen81	60	41	9	10	170	75	95	132		6	12
Rogers Reborn2	tuffboy	60	36	16	8	102	42	60	124	99	4	7
Qetesh & Ladly tweak by Tuff 41122	Kinchev	60	36	15	9	131	65	66	123			12
343 stable v5	Raid on	60	38	9	13	125	72	53	123	55	1	11
4-2-3-1 for patch 16.2	tuffboy	60	40	6	14	115	69	46	123	112	6	14
TFF DEVASTATOR V6	Will1981	60	38	8	14	118	55	63	122	122	6	9
FM16.2Knap451	Will1981	60	35	16	9	116	50	66	121	101	2	19
GivingItLaldy - DM's high tempo	tuffboy	60	35	14	11	141	71	70	119	107	2	12
Mahluk Taktik v1	Will1981	60	36	9	15	143	70	73	117	124	4	16
Gatling Project update	Will1981	60	34	10	16	147	85	62	112	51	2	14
Storm	Will1981	60	33	12	15	144	75	69	111	119	5	17
TFF DEVASTATOR V7	Will1981	60	34	8	18	120	65	55	110	111	6	4

 

[Will1981]

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