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Same situation as United, they fired Wenger far too late after he was way past his expiration date and out of touch with modern football. Left behind an unbalanced squad, followed by managerial carousel and instead of building up they are always rebuilding with no end in sight.
 
Tyton said:
Same situation as United, they fired Wenger far too late after he was way past his expiration date and out of touch with modern football. Left behind an unbalanced squad, followed by managerial carousel and instead of building up they are always rebuilding with no end in sight.
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Nothing like Utd and Fergie wasn’t past his expiration date he just won the league. And left Moyes with a good squad and great back room staff.

Problem was Gill left exactly the same time leaving us with Ed in charge of the football side of things. And Moyes was never ready for the job then piled misery on himself upsetting all the experienced players at the club. And firing nearly all the back room staff and top class coaches.
 
Tyton said:
Same situation as United, they fired Wenger far too late after he was way past his expiration date and out of touch with modern football. Left behind an unbalanced squad, followed by managerial carousel and instead of building up they are always rebuilding with no end in sight.
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All the Arsenal narking and fume over Wenger 'just'' consistently making top 4 year-on-year .....

Doesn't look too shabby now they're a consistent mid-table side of little relevance to having a say in anything now he's no longer there.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
All the Arsenal narking and fume over Wenger 'just'' consistently making top 4 year-on-year .....

Doesn't look too shabby now they're a consistent mid-table side of little relevance to having a say in anything now he's no longer there.
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They thought the Wenger top 4 was the real banter years... boy, I wonder what this era is then lool.
 
dilakh2 said:
They thought the Wenger top 4 was the real banter years... boy, I wonder what this era is then lool.
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Scouseinthehouse said:
All the Arsenal narking and fume over Wenger 'just'' consistently making top 4 year-on-year .....

Doesn't look too shabby now they're a consistent mid-table side of little relevance to having a say in anything now he's no longer there.
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Premier League was much weaker in the top 4 meme era. You couldn't keep a PL club out of CL final for a while, then nothing for nearly a decade between Chelsea winning and Pool making the final. The 'golden generation' retiring, new generation was nowhere as good. And he still only made 4 place and won some tin pot trophies.

But now, City with Guardiola, Liverpool with Klopp, Leicester, Wolves and Spurs having huge ambitions, Everton also waiting on the sidelines, talented English players coming through again

If Wenger couldn't hack it then, he wouldn't hack it now either.
 
Tyton said:
Premier League was much weaker in the top 4 meme era. You couldn't keep a PL club out of CL final for a while, then nothing for nearly a decade between Chelsea winning and Pool making the final. The 'golden generation' retiring, new generation was nowhere as good. And he still only made 4 place and won some tin pot trophies.

But now, City with Guardiola, Liverpool with Klopp, Leicester, Wolves and Spurs having huge ambitions, Everton also waiting on the sidelines, talented English players coming through again

If Wenger couldn't hack it then, he wouldn't hack it now either.
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I can't really disagree with anything you said. The fact that Wenger and his stubborn nature not to invest in his side cost them the league against ******* Leicester says alot.
 
Tyton said:
Premier League was much weaker in the top 4 meme era. You couldn't keep a PL club out of CL final for a while, then nothing for nearly a decade between Chelsea winning and Pool making the final. The 'golden generation' retiring, new generation was nowhere as good. And he still only made 4 place and won some tin pot trophies.

But now, City with Guardiola, Liverpool with Klopp, Leicester, Wolves and Spurs having huge ambitions, Everton also waiting on the sidelines, talented English players coming through again

If Wenger couldn't hack it then, he wouldn't hack it now either.
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I was going to argue the contrary on this league being far from strong now until you described the FA Cup as a 'tin pot trophy.'

You lost me at that mate.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
I was going to argue the contrary on this league being far from strong now until you described the FA Cup as a 'tin pot trophy.'

You lost me at that mate.
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I know fans especially the older generation (Yes I just called you old Scouse im sorry) consider it a prestigious trophy but unfortunately with the news that the top 7 won't even participate in the league cup next season, it just shows the way football is going and the fact that domestic cups are seen as a hassle and something unnecessary by the top sides.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
I was going to argue the contrary on this league being far from strong now until you described the FA Cup as a 'tin pot trophy.'

You lost me at that mate.
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Fine, it's the oldest tin pot trophy so let's call it the best out of tin pot trophies, you happy now? :D

Seriously though, national cups are the last priority for every club in every league. Viewership of the games is low until the semis, it's cool to win it but no one is too bothered if they don't win it. The only interesting thing about these competitions is when a top division team gets busted by a 3rd division club once every 5 years.
 
dilakh2 said:
I know fans especially the older generation (Yes I just called you old Scouse im sorry) consider it a prestigious trophy but unfortunately with the news that the top 7 won't even participate in the league cup next season, it just shows the way football is going and the fact that domestic cups are seen as a hassle and something unnecessary by the top sides.
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If you don't consider the FA Cup a majorly important trophy aa a Liverpool fan mate I honestly don't know where to start with that.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
If you don't consider the FA Cup a majorly important trophy aa a Liverpool fan mate I honestly don't know where to start with that.
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I didn't say I don't of course it is. However unfortunately the club and the way Klopp has approached the domestic cup games says otherwise.
 
dilakh2 said:
I didn't say I don't of course it is. However unfortunately the club and the way Klopp has approached the domestic cup games says otherwise.
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I couldn't give a flying F how any football club wants to denigrate the domestic cups.

Football 'fans', however, is a totally different issue that I'll never understand.

And any Liverpool 'fan' that doesn't understand just what the FA Cup means to the club and City is not a L'pool fan worth your time of day.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
I couldn't give a flying F how any football club wants to denigrate the domestic cups.

Football 'fans', however, is a totally different issue that I'll never understand.

And any Liverpool 'fan' that doesn't understand just what the FA Cup means to the club and City is not a L'pool fan worth your time of day.
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Unfortunately in the era of instant gratification. A prestigious trophy such as the FA Cup and its meaning is lost on fans who don't know how the foundations of Liverpool that Shankly built began with the FA Cup and what it meant to the city.
 
dilakh2 said:
Unfortunately in the era of instant gratification. A prestigious trophy such as the FA Cup and its meaning is lost on fans who don't know how the foundations of Liverpool that Shankly built began with the FA Cup and what it meant to the city.
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Aside from how important the Cup has always been here, there should be 96 reasons why the FA Cup would always be inextricably tied to the football club and remain MAJORLY important to any Liverpool fan.

So again, anyone claiming to be a Red who has no regard for the Cup isn't worth your time of day.
 
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