Noone denies that, but even if the players are 'washed up' now, many players left Arsenal and succeded, maybe not individually (And there's no guarantee they would've kept their level of performances had they stayed, you can never guarantee that), but it's a team sport and they've won trophies with their teams.
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Noone denies that, but even if the players are 'washed up' now, many players left Arsenal and succeded, maybe not individually (And there's no guarantee they would've kept their level of performances had they stayed, you can never guarantee that), but it's a team sport and they've won trophies with their teams.
and this summarizes my thoughts perfectly, Joss keeps going on about how Arsenal Players failed personally but their is really no guarntee that they would have been amazing and kept up their level of performance had they stayed
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Viera rejected Arsenal as a part of coaching role, apparently wants to stay at MCFC..
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Viera rejected Arsenal as a part of coaching role, apparently wants to stay at MCFC..
he has got a Hamstring problem.
No, actually. He wasn't in the squad =)
This. And this is my point - Henry had one good year, Flamini (IMO) isn't at the same level as he was while at Arsenal, Vieira got relegated, Hleb didn't even make the Barcelona bench before being shunted on loan to Birmingham, and doing pretty badly there - including being relegated. Pires had a good final season with us, then made 10 appearances for Villarreal the following season. Campbell left, flopped. Came back, did OK. Left, flopped.
You really think it's a coincidence that all of the aforementioned players had brilliant careers at Arsenal, including - foe the most part - a good final season at the club, and then largely flopped? REALLY?!
Fourth Official = fake ITK no?
Cesc is missing out with a hamstring problem - Eboue's not going either. Does that mean he's off? Hope so!
Have you got a source to the Vieira thing?
Not ITK, but he has pretty much spot on with many transfers. Called it way before than any source. Not ITKs. Reliable source.
Read that it was in Arseblog..
their is hardly a guarentee either way that they would have continued to have a brilliant career.. all I am saying is that although possible, there was a also a chance that they would have done badly at Arsenal
Well there's more guarantee that they would have done well than that they wouldn't... Players don't usually just stop playing well when they've had a brilliant season and stay on at the same club. Either way - it shows how good Wenger is at knowing when to let go of a player and went to fight to keep them, like he's done with Fabregas and like he's trying to do with Nasri.
Gotta love the contradiction.
like he did with Ashley Cole you mean
Well Wenger and Arsenal did all they could to keep Cole.
Hope not.
Not really a contradiction. Either he thought their time was up and cashed in, or they moaned so he let them go (Adebayor, Toure come to mind), or they still had something to offer the club but he felt it was more beneficial to cash in. Where's the contradiction? And how many mistakes has Wenger made in terms of letting players go? Not a lot.
Difficult to keep a player when one man and his mobile phone go to bed with your player and tap him up a year before we [reluctantly] agree to a transfer.
He has made plenty of mistakes replacing them.
Not what I said.
What's that supposed to mean? =/
It's supposed to mean why are you dodging the question? I never mentioned Wenger's recruitment policy - I said he's a good judge of when to let players leave and went to fight to keep them.
What question? You REALLY don't see a contradiction between "they would've succeded if they stayed" and "Wenger let them go because they were past it"?