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Any more news on where the likes of Denilson will be heading this summer
 
Jesus. The Mirror really are disgraceful - they seem to have taken that stuff directly from We Are The North Bank, who posted exactly that (not word for word) earlier. Mail have done it to Young Guns before as well.. Don't know how some of them get away with it. Could just have same contacts, I guess but seems too coincidental IMO.
Don't know how they get away with calling themselves journalists.
Think Calum is eager for most players to leave ;)

Koscielny, Nasri, van Persie have all been named at the top of Calum's 'To be sold' list!

RVP, really?!

Would you take Alvarez, Joss?
 
Don't know how they get away with calling themselves journalists.


RVP, really?!

Would you take Alvarez, Joss?

let me tell you why i said RVP:

Back in August when he got injured AGAIN vs Blackburn i said in a RAGE sell him as he is always injured (A)
 
I just have faith that Clichy will rediscover the form he had two seasons ago, he was a quality LB.
 
If not, surely Gibbs is ready to make the step up by now; what we've seen of him so far has been very impressive.
 
i thought koscienly had a really good season if he hits the weights i think he could be very good defender.


Edit: joss i was wondering what players would you hope arsene brought?

So do I. Excellent on the ground, and although that's not all you want in a player (especially not at Arsenal), it's half the equation and I feel he's decent enough in the air to form a solid partnership with Vermaelen, who provides the aerial dominance.

Not sure about players, but at the start of the window/end of the season, I said we needed a LW, RB and CB.

Don't want us to go overboard with signings because we haven't won anything for 6 years, though. Wenger hasn't achieved what he has by bowing to public pressure every time there's a blip. We need investment, but we don't need more than 1 CB IMO. Bartley and Miquel will both get chances next season (one will probably go on loan, I'd expect the latter) and we should still be letting that happen and sticking to the 10 year plan. We have to breed them in slowly so they're ready to really challenge for the first team in 2/3 years time.

Bearing that in mind, I think Samba or Jagielka are our best options. Both experienced, with a few years left. More experienced than our other CBs (which is what we need), and that also means they're less likely to block the development of Bartley and co. - 2/3 years in the First Team and then step aside and provide the experience in the changing room rather than on the field (by which time Vermaelen will be experienced, and Bartley will be nearing 'peak').

Not keen on Cahill tbh - good player, sure. But is £17m (Minimum since City are keen) a realistic price to pay for a player who will expect to be in the first team for 5/6 years (assuming he doesn't leave before then!) and simply block the development of young players we've put so much time, and money into? I don't think so.

[Sorry for the essay!]

Any more news on where the likes of Denilson will be heading this summer

Don't know about Denilson, but "the likes of..." I assume includes Bendtner and co? Vela is staying (for one more season at least), Bendtner ISN'T going to Dortmund, confirmed Klopp.

Would you take Alvarez, Joss?

Honestly? I've never seen him play so I can't really say... From what I've heard, he's quick and versatile which is pretty much the model example of a player that Wenger seems to pick up out of nowhere and develop into a top talent. Could be brilliant, could be awful. Could well need time to settle in, and I don't know where we'd play him? He certainly seems to be seen as a squad player more than anything else but the interest from Roma, Malaga and Palermo has driven his price up so I'm no longer sure if he's worth it.

I also don't know the validity of these rumours. I know we WERE interested, but dropped out when they asked for £12M. Then Palermo's president said we'd already signed him to one source (and that we were 'interested' to another). He seems highly unreliable and it's a bit too convenient that Argentinian Radio and other sources have picked up on it and say we're firming up our interest now. Could well go to Roma IMO.

let me tell you why i said RVP:

Back in August when he got injured AGAIN vs Blackburn i said in a RAGE sell him as he is always injured (A)

I know, I was joking ;)

I just have faith that Clichy will rediscover the form he had two seasons ago, he was a quality LB.

If not, surely Gibbs is ready to make the step up by now; what we've seen of him so far has been very impressive.

Think he really needs competition. Far too easy for a player with injury problems and no real competition for his spot to have a drop in form and concentration levels. If Gibbs can stay fit for the majority of the season, and with Traore likely to be given one more chance (largely because no one else wants him!), he could well find that form again IMO.
 
Samba would be a top class signing. And I have to agree over the experience; Samba, koscienly and Vermaelen would give a bit of depth to that role; as long as we get rid of Squillaci!
 
Liverpool FC Transfer Scouting: Left Backs

Another week, another edition of Liverpool FC Transfer Scouting Stats! The last two editions were very successful with some great feedback for the Premier League Winger Comparison and then last week’s Premier League Centre Back Comparison article.

This week we are going to concentrate on the top Premier League left back. This is an area in which Liverpool FC are most lacking. This season we’ve had to use Paul Konchesky, Fabio Aurelio (when fit!), Glen Johnson and John Flanagan at left back and all are just short term options in this position because they’re either; not good enough, always injured or are natural right backs. We were only going to look at those that were linked with Liverpool FC recently: Jose Enrique, Leighton Baines and Gael Clichy. However my arm was twisted and I’ve added, arguably, two of the best left sided fullbacks in the league at the moment: Patrice Evra and Ashley Cole.

Since the previous articles, covering wingers and centre backs, were well received we’ve decided to take the stats from both and combine them in this article. The first section will cover the players defensively and the second section will cover how they’ve done whilst attacking. The first table is shown below:

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As you can see from the table above, Chelsea’s Ashley Cole led the way with most clean sheets achieved with his Chelsea team mates whilst Leighton Baines spent the most time on the pitch amassing 3,420 minutes, which coincidentally is the highest in the league this season for any player.

All five players do not have very high ground 50-50 win percentages. They all range between 51%-58% with Gael Clichy coming on top in this one whilst attempting 351 ground duels. Patrice Evra was involved in ground possession duels (50-50’s) most frequently averaging a possession duel every 8.3 minutes. Gael Clichy was second with a ground 50-50 every 8.5 minutes and Jose Enrique third averaging a ground duel every 9 minutes.

Aerial duels or 50-50’s were a mixed bag. The stats varied from a win percentage of 32% to 63%. Bringing up the rear was Jose Enrique winning only 32% of 44 aerial duels whilst Evra and Baines performed the best with a win percentage of 63%. However Patrice Evra managed a total of 83 almost double that of Leighton Baines’ total aerial 50-50’s. Gael Clichy only managed a 51% success rate but had attempted 111 aerial duels, which is the highest amount in this comparison.

The most tackles were, also, made by Gael Clichy with a success rate of 81%. Even though Clichy made the highest amount of tackles and had a very good success rate he didn’t achieve the best win percentage. That honour went to Jose Enrique who won 84% of his 61 tackles. Ashley Cole had the lowest tackle success winning 67 out of his 100 tackles attempted. Leighton Baines and Patrice Evra both had respectable tackle win percentages of 74% and 76%. The most active player out of these five was Gael Clichy who attempted a tackle every 26.8 minutes, followed by Ashley Cole on 33.9 minutes and then Evra on 37 minutes.

Two players again really dominated the ball interception stakes and they were Patrice Evra and Gael Clichy. Gael again had the highest amount, this time of interceptions with 110, whilst Evra was second with 85 and Enrique way back on 70. Clichy averaged 3.2 interceptions per game, Evra 2.5, Enrique 1.9, Baines 1.4 and Cole 1.3.

We’re a little surprised with Ashley Cole’s stats, so far, in this comparison. One of his rivals seem to be outperforming him in every category whilst he’s made the top two in total tackles made and frequency of tackles made, however these stats aren’t as impressive when you take into account that his tackle success was 67% – the lowest out of the five compared.

Rubbing the salt into the wounds further for Ashley Cole is the “Dribbled Past” stat. So how many times was Ashley beaten by an opposing player? The answer is 38 times. This is the most out of all five with Gael Clichy next on 26, Leighton Baines on 24, Evra on 23 and shockingly Jose Enrique topped this particular statistic as he was only beaten 9 times in 36 games for Newcastle. Impressive.

Defensive errors were few and far between with Patrice Evra not committing a single defensive error in the Premier League this season (according to Opta Stats).

In the loss of possession statistics Gael Clichy gave away the ball the least (he does play for Arsenal). Enrique was guilty of giving the ball away the most.

Surprisingly Patrice Evra gave away the most fouls and Jose Enrique gave away the least. I’d have expected that to be the other way around. I think that’s enough of the defending statistics. Let’s move onto the attacking stats shall we? The table is below.

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We’ll start with crossing and there’s really no contest here. Leighton Baines attempted 351 crosses in the 2010/11 season and his accuracy with these was at 28%. This percentage betters the statistics of most of the wingers that we covered in our Premier League Wingers article. It’s an excellent figure and delivering 100 accurate crosses in a season is a very good amount. It’s no wonder he has been being picked for England and has been coveted by Liverpool FC. The other impressive feat is that the number of crosses is triple that of most of his peers and more than double that of Enrique’s 132 crosses. The crossing accuracy dips alarming with Enrique on 23%, Cole on 20%, Evra on 18% and Clichy on 17%.

We can see where this article is going. Leighton Baines, after a quiet first half in the defensive section, is now all over this article. He’s dominated the goal assists stat with eleven assists this season, a phenomenal amount. The next inline is Cole with just three and all the others have the solitary assist to their name.

The chance creation (or key passes) is another one that Leighton Baines is dominating. This time with 74 chances created and averaging a chance created every 46 minutes. Ashley Cole created 44, Evra 34, Enrique 30 and Gael Clichy again left behind on 21.

Pass completion is where Ashley Cole has surpassed his rivals with a pass completion of 86%. Patrice Evra 80%, Clichy 78%, Enrique 75% and Baines 72% made up the numbers here. It’s clear to see that the top two sides kept the ball the best in the division and their full backs shows this with some very high pass completion percentages.

The successful dribbling statistic sprung a surprise, as we’d have expected Patrice Evra or Ashley Cole to dominate this one however it was Jose Enrique who managed 65 successful dribbles and actually average 1.9 per game. All the others managed between 0.5 and 0.8 per game so he doubled their efforts.

We’re coming towards the end of the comparison now and we’re moving onto goals. Again Leighton Baines dominates this area with five goals. Only one other player managed to get on the score sheet and that was Patrice Evra with the single goal in the 2010/11 season. Baines was managing a goal every 684 minutes, which approximates to a goal every 7 .5 games. Some strikers don’t even have those stats! Another eye opener is that Leighton only managed six shots on target and scored with five of them, an 83% success rate of shots on target to goals. Another impressive stat is that 26% of his shots resulted in goals! As an attacking force Leighton Baines was by far the best left back in the Premier League this season.


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Lastly we’ve added a total amount and average amount of touches per game in which Gael Clichy and Jose Enrique come out looking very impressive. Both were very close to touching the ball every single minute of the match with Gael Clichy managing 89.4 touches per game!



Defensively you’d have to say that it was between Gael Clichy and Patrice Evra for the best defender out of the five but I’m leaning towards Clichy as he managed to trump Evra in quite a lot of the stats. There are nineteen stats displayed in the defensive table and Clichy takes it 10-9 so I’ll go with Clichy as the best defender in the comparison.

So, unfortunately, there’s no all rounder in the left back department but two players shone in separate areas. Gael Clichy, surprisingly, was the best defender just edging out Patrice Evra and Leighton Baines was standing tall, by far, the best attacking left back in the Premier League this season!



http://www.anfieldindex.com/2685/liverpool-fc-transfer-scouting-stats-left-backs.html

EDIT: Obviously posted due to Clichy relevance, and in terms of us scouting others.
 
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Lololololol. Prawned by stats.

Proves what I've thought all along - Clichy is the best defender in the league in one-on-one situations, and you have to bear in mind that he gets next to no defensive support from Arshavin/Nasri at all. I'd be more than happy to see him stay tbh - obviously not based entirely on those stats, but on the fact we KNOW how good he can be if he stays injury-free. I think Gibbs being fit is crucial as well... Competition and all that lark.
 
Beautiful stats. I agree that Clichy is the best Left back in the league defensively, and I'd love to see him stay; however, Gibbs is perfectly capable of stepping up, for sure, and if he can bring the best out of Clichy, that position is sorted. It's a shame our two great fullbacks are let down by the weak Goalkeeper position and somewhat shakey central defenders.
 
Beautiful stats. I agree that Clichy is the best Left back in the league defensively, and I'd love to see him stay; however, Gibbs is perfectly capable of stepping up, for sure, and if he can bring the best out of Clichy, that position is sorted. It's a shame our two great fullbacks are let down by the weak Goalkeeper position and somewhat shakey central defenders.

what week goalie position?
 
The fact that, whilst Szczesny is surely set to be a great keeper, we're then left relying on 3 keepers who are poor and error prone.(Almunia, Fabianski and Mannone)
 
tbh fabianski was playing amazing then he got an bad injury, he's good backup
 
I don't doubt the fact he is a good man between the posts; he's athletic and makes some very good saves. However, he is mistake prone. Whilst I understand all goalkeepers need to be slightly barmy, he's way too erratic; I'd prefer someone much more reliable.
 
I don't doubt the fact he is a good man between the posts; he's athletic and makes some very good saves. However, he is mistake prone. Whilst I understand all goalkeepers need to be slightly barmy, he's way too erratic; I'd prefer someone much more reliable.

who else would want to sit on the bench though? and anyway Arsene said he wont be buying any goalies as like me he is happy with Woj Fabianski and Mannone :)
 
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