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TheFalse9 said:
I reckon Rooney must be pretty ****** off at Chelsea at the moment, considering they are (so far) only willing to up their bid to ~£25 million when they bought Torres for £50 million!

It's a good time to be a Chelsea fan, though, I'd say, with Mourinho's return and all the talent in midfield. They definitely have the best attacking midfield in the league, but I'd say their overall midfield is best too.
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Man City have a better midfield over Chelsea for me. Just personal opinion though.
 
zzeezzy said:
Man City have a better midfield over Chelsea for me. Just personal opinion though.
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I accept it's your opinion, but wouldn't you agree(?):
Mikel > García
Ramires << Touré
Hazard > Navas
Mata > Fernandinho
Oscar < Silva

And then the subs/backups...
Essien >> Barry
Luiz >> Rodwell
Moses < Milner
Lampard > Nasri
De Bruyne > Sinclair
Van Ginkel >> Suárez

Chelsea: 11 better
City: 4 better

I don't think I'm biased in any way, but I still think Chelsea's midfield is far superior.
 
TheFalse9 said:
I accept it's your opinion, but wouldn't you agree(?):
Mikel > García
Ramires << Touré
Hazard > Navas
Mata > Fernandinho
Oscar < Silva

And then the subs/backups...
Essien >> Barry
Luiz >> Rodwell
Moses < Milner
Lampard > Nasri
De Bruyne > Sinclair
Van Ginkel >> Suárez

Chelsea: 11 better
City: 4 better

I don't think I'm biased in any way, but I still think Chelsea's midfield is far superior.
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I think you've compared them totally wrong! Mata and Fernandinho for example?? How is there any comparison between the two players. They won't even be playing in the same positions for their clubs this season.
 
zzeezzy said:
I think you've compared them totally wrong! Mata and Fernandinho for example?? How is there any comparison between the two players. They won't even be playing in the same positions for their clubs this season.
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My bad, I shouldn't have compared the two, but the rest seem sensible comparisons to me. And I'm sure if you compared them most ways, Chelsea would still come out on top. Although admittedly, this is a very subjective topic.
 
TheFalse9 said:
I accept it's your opinion, but wouldn't you agree(?):
Mikel > García
Ramires << Touré
Hazard > Navas
Mata > Fernandinho
Oscar < Silva

And then the subs/backups...
Essien >> Barry
Luiz >> Rodwell
Moses < Milner
Lampard > Nasri
De Bruyne > Sinclair
Van Ginkel >> Suárez

Chelsea: 11 better
City: 4 better

I don't think I'm biased in any way, but I still think Chelsea's midfield is far superior.
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Those are really weird comparisons. If we just compare first team midfields, Toure, Fernandinho, Navas, Silva, Nasri almost certainly beats out Ramires, Lampard, Oscar, Mata, Hazard. Not because they're man for man better, but because they fit together better.

Of course, this is before we start considering the Jose factor...
 
GodCubed said:
Those are really weird comparisons. If we just compare first team midfields, Toure, Fernandinho, Navas, Silva, Nasri almost certainly beats out Ramires, Lampard, Oscar, Mata, Hazard. Not because they're man for man better, but because they fit together better.

Of course, this is before we start considering the Jose factor...
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City's midfield does seem more balanced, but it is yet to be seen whether there will be good cohesion between them.




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Thoughts on Sammy Eto'o? Would love him at Chelsea even if nostalgia is clouding judgement.
 
oja20 said:
Thoughts on Sammy Eto'o? Would love him at Chelsea even if nostalgia is clouding judgement.
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An ageing prima donna striker? Chelsea had their fill of that with Nicolas Anelka, surely...
 
GodCubed said:
Same could be said of Chelsea's midfield really, of course.
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I agree, but City have more new players (signed this season) than Chelsea in their midfield. Of course, this might not necessarily mean anything, but just sayin'.
 
GodCubed said:
An ageing prima donna striker? Chelsea had their fill of that with Nicolas Anelka, surely...
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Eto'o played his bet football IMO at Inter playing as either a winger or a classic number 9 as a replacement for Diego Milito. I have not watched him recently but he seems keen today the daily fail reporting he wants to join. He's a clinical finisher who almost guarantees success. His discipline and his desire under Mourinho was amazing. I think if we play a 4-3-3 he could play on either the wing or as the striker and he could add pace and width to our side. He will also bring valuable experience and has that spark of magic. He could also be a stop gap for 2-3 years when a 23 year old Lukaku will become our first choice striker for 10 years.
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What does everyone think about how are squad is shaping up with only 2 possibly 3 major transfers.

1st XI

Cech
Ivanovic Luiz Cahill Cole
Van Ginkel
Oscar Lampard
hazard Lukaku Mata

mata can switch with Oscar.



2nd XI
Schwarzer
Azpi Terry Ake Bertrand
Mikel
Ramires McEachran
Schurle. Eto'o/Ba Moses

I think it's the end of the road for Essien, I'd look to bring in Eto'o and sell Torres. Loans for Chalobah (prem side), De Bruyne (Prem side), Kalas (Championship side).

Our side in the future
Courtois
Azpi Chalobah Kalas PvA
Ake
Oscar McEachran
Hazard Lukaku Mata

That side is truly mouth watering. With players like De Bruyne and Piazon missing out. A manager like Mourinho in charge and we're looking to make he club sustainable. I haven't been so optomistic since Mourinhos last tenure... ^^)
 
Little_Alexander said:
Eto'o played his bet football IMO at Inter playing as either a winger or a classic number 9 as a replacement for Diego Milito. I have not watched him recently but he seems keen today the daily fail reporting he wants to join. He's a clinical finisher who almost guarantees success. His discipline and his desire under Mourinho was amazing. I think if we play a 4-3-3 he could play on either the wing or as the striker and he could add pace and width to our side. He will also bring valuable experience and has that spark of magic. He could also be a stop gap for 2-3 years when a 23 year old Lukaku will become our first choice striker for 10 years.
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Guarantees success, does he? That'll be why Anzhi haven't won anything since he got there, and he's been sulking around the pitch for about a season now as first Seydou Doumbia and then his own teammate Lacina Traore has outscored him.

Regardless of what the Fail reports, I won't lend any credence to it, but he's getting slower and the only experience he'll bring is of being a whiny little *****. People forget or gloss over what a **** Eto'o really was/is. His presence will do nothing to help the youngsters who have been farmed out on loan repeatedly over the past season and then been usurped by an ageing vet who gets minutes ahead of them.

Eto'o is no better than what Chelsea already have, on the wing or up front. Lukaku's already better than him at this moment in time, and Eto'o has lost the legs for a wing role. It'd be a high cost endeavour that likely wouldn't work.
 
@godcubed I meant guaranteed goals, sorry. I think he does and is better than both Ba and Torres. He seems like the kind of player; like Rooney or Anelka that when motivated can be amazing but when not is dismal. I think he's worth a punt IF we get rid of El Niño.

@Oja20 Trust me I love Essien but he seems to have lost that energy that he used to have and is a bit unfit but if he plays to a standard that he used to a Chelsea,especially under Hidink then I'd love him.

@Tyton. I think he will last 5 years but if not will all the players skill disappear... I think not
 
Little_Alexander said:
@godcubed I meant guaranteed goals, sorry. I think he does and is better than both Ba and Torres. He seems like the kind of player; like Rooney or Anelka that when motivated can be amazing but when not is dismal. I think he's worth a punt IF we get rid of El Niño.
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He only scored 10 in 25 last year in what is a decent but not incredible Russian league with an entire team built around him. Compare that to Torres, who scored two fewer in the league but got crucial goals in Europe. I doubt you'll get rid of Torres, but Chelsea have got rid of much of their ageing player base, why start adding to it again? There are far better options out there.
 
I don't watch Russian football so I don't know how good Eto'o is anymore, but in his last year at Inter, he was the best striker in the world. Even if he's half the player he was then he would still be better than Romelu, Torres, and Ba but when you factor in the wages he would command - would it be worth it?
 
GodCubed said:
He only scored 10 in 25 last year in what is a decent but not incredible Russian league with an entire team built around him. Compare that to Torres, who scored two fewer in the league but got crucial goals in Europe. I doubt you'll get rid of Torres, but Chelsea have got rid of much of their ageing player base, why start adding to it again? There are far better options out there.
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Like that fellow Benteke, what Abramovich wants, Abramovich gets.
 
GodCubed said:
There are far better options out there.
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Is there, whom? For an experienced player...

Rooney 35+m
Suarez 50+m
Drogba (unlikely)
As for Benteke, I would love him to add to ur growing Belgian contingent but I seems he's fine at Villa. He'd be reasonably priced as well. About 13-18 million
 
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