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My point is Lukaku needs to be judged on a run of games, that's when he usually comes good. You can't judge a player on 1 game here and there. He needs to be given a proper chance in the first team, a run of 3 - 5 games and see how he does, that's the only way you'll ever know if he is ready.

Same applies for Ba.... Everyone is like "Ohhhh no just pains me if he's no.1 when Costa is injured"..... well that's an annoying attitude because Ba has been used sporadically and no wonder he can't get any kind of form.

When Costa got a run of games that's when people noticed what he was capable of, not when he was being used behind the other 1st choice strikers at Atletico the odd game here and there. You have to give these players a good run of games.

We are judging him on a run of games ... He had one at Everton and West Brom. Is he good enough to start for Chelsea based on them? Nope but he certainly has the potential
 
We are judging him on a run of games ... He had one at Everton and West Brom. Is he good enough to start for Chelsea based on them? Nope but he certainly has the potential

How? He was great for Everton and West Brom.... he's had a few iffy games in the World Cup but still ended up scoring goals. What more can he do? I just don't get it.
 
How? He was great for Everton and West Brom.... he's had a few iffy games in the World Cup but still ended up scoring goals. What more can he do? I just don't get it.

He has his limitations. He is not good enough to start for a team that wants to win it all ... I am sure you wouldn't make him a No. 1 striker at United either
 
He has his limitations. He is not good enough to start for a team that wants to win it all ... I am sure you wouldn't make him a No. 1 striker at United either

Two completely different situations though... United have two World-Class options there... Chelsea have been searching for a good striker for god knows how long. You have a young player performing well and won't give him a run of games to see what he will do.

Oh and btw Costa has limitations as well....
 
He has his limitations. He is not good enough to start for a team that wants to win it all ... I am sure you wouldn't make him a No. 1 striker at United either

Not really a comparison. We have much better strength in depth than you. Our "worst" forward is Hernandez
 
Two completely different situations though... United have two World-Class options there... Chelsea have been searching for a good striker for god knows how long. You have a young player performing well and won't give him a run of games to see what he will do.

Oh and btw Costa has limitations as well....

Far fewer than Lukaku.

Let me just point out that Mourinho knows way, way more about this than we do, and he doesn't trust Lukaku. Think that speaks volumes.
 
And this folks is the exact reason Lukaku has a problem with Chelsea..... how is he ever going to cement being no.1 if he isn't given a chance? Costa gets bought and automatically no.1 despite him having a few good seasons with Atletico.

Lukaku has had a few good seasons with Everton and West Brom - yet no one will even consider giving him a run of games as first-choice striker to see how he does.

I hope Ba sees he has no real future at Chelsea and leaves for regular first team football then you end up with Torres starting when Costa undoubtedly gets injured.

I just don't like the attitude of Chelsea fans with these types of players, they are hardly ever going to prove themselves as being capable of no.1 position if they never get given the chance. Then you moan when Lukaku has a moan about it.

Oh christ, this bollocks again? Lukaku is not good enough to be our first choice striker yet. I'm sorry but if you dispute that then you either don't watch him enough or you're blind.

We've just seen what happens when our squad plays with no threat up front: it arguably lost us the league and the CL. Making a limited striker with lots of potential our first choice is idiotic.

My point is Lukaku needs to be judged on a run of games, that's when he usually comes good. You can't judge a player on 1 game here and there. He needs to be given a proper chance in the first team, a run of 3 - 5 games and see how he does, that's the only way you'll ever know if he is ready.

And if he doesn't live up to expectations? Then we're stuck with no real striker again until January. That's too high a risk when we can keep him as 2nd choice, play him enough to judge his potential and not be fully reliant on him.

Same applies for Ba.... Everyone is like "Ohhhh no just pains me if he's no.1 when Costa is injured"..... well that's an annoying attitude because Ba has been used sporadically and no wonder he can't get any kind of form.
Given all the evidence this season, it would be painful to have him as our no.1. Watching Chelsea with Ba and Torres this year has been pretty terrible. I'm not sure why that's an annoying attitude: nobody likes watching their team fail.
 
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Far fewer than Lukaku.

Let me just point out that Mourinho knows way, way more about this than we do, and he doesn't trust Lukaku. Think that speaks volumes.

He may know more, but I can certainly see Lukaku's frustrations.
 
I gotta say I was really disappointed by the performances of the Chelsea Belgian players. Hazard never really showed up at all. Courtois was alright. Lukaku was truly horrific except for his cameo appearance against USA

Maybe it's time they stopped talking to the media so much and actually started producing on the pitch on a consistent basis
 
He may know more, but I can certainly see Lukaku's frustrations.

Me too, but I think that's probably more on Lukaku. He should realise that he hasn't got the game for Chelsea's starting spot and work to improve, not sulk.
 
Just watched a few Atletico Madrid league games again focusing specifically on Costa. I have to say that he really is the embodiment of Mourinho's philosophy ... A true competition. Never shirks from a fight. Aggressive and confrontational and above all, possesses a huge desire to win. He gives everything for the Atletico shirt and I hope he does the same for the Chelsea shirt. Regardless of whether he scores goals or not, I feel having someone like him leading the attack will fire up the crowd and players. Something which our current strike-force is incapable of doing

I can understand why Mourinho is so attracted to him. Mourinho absolutely loves players who sacrifice themselves for the team and no one does it more than Costa
 
There is something called a tactical system. Lukaku and Costa are very different, tactically.

This is an article explaining Diego Costa Diego Costa – Walk the Line | Plains Of Almería | "Tell them Osgood is not forgotten on the plains of Almería." 1971, Raquel Welch. and I see none of those qualities in Lukaku. He needs to use his physical strength more. Some Everton fan described his role perfectly on a forum, He doesn't function like a Target Man like people expect him to, he wants the ball at his feet and wants to do something with it. His off the ball movement isn't very good.

https://mediacru.sh/8man9IkKlqMg Henry, Shearer etc comparing Lukaku's movement with Origi.

Also, Costa is not a one season wonder, I thought that had been explained many times. He might have had "only a few great seasons" but dammit he was among best strikers in the world last season.

But let's totally ignore that Mourinho has any tactical point of view, he just hates the kid for no reason. De Bruyne was another kid who was sent out for tactical reasons, now don't shove his tackles stat in my face, he tackles when someone is coming at him. His pressing was non existent yesterday and was letting everything get past him in first half. When moved to wing, he has no real pace.
 
Just hearing that because Livorno and Juventus owe Chelsea 17million from the Mutu deal we may use that as a bargaining tool in the potential Pogba deal!
 
Just hearing that because Livorno and Juventus owe Chelsea 17million from the Mutu deal we may use that as a bargaining tool in the potential Pogba deal!

Fantastic player, but seriously why do you need him? waste of money that could do on other positions
 
Fantastic player, but seriously why do you need him? waste of money that could do on other positions

I would agree on some scale. But all depends what Mourinho has in mind, he may decide to play 4-3-3 so a midfield 3 of Matic - Fabregas - Pogba would arguably be the best in the world. Or even if he sticks with 4-2-3-1 he may play Cesc in the #10 position.
 
I would agree on some scale. But all depends what Mourinho has in mind, he may decide to play 4-3-3 so a midfield 3 of Matic - Fabregas - Pogba would arguably be the best in the world. Or even if he sticks with 4-2-3-1 he may play Cesc in the #10 position.

No doubt it would add depth and as you mentioned that midfield three would be arguably the world's best. I am surprised Chelsea haven't made a move for Sanchez tbh

Matic
Fabregas - Oscar
Sanchez - Costa - Hazard

Still think Chelsea lack a bit of width at times
 
No doubt it would add depth and as you mentioned that midfield three would be arguably the world's best. I am surprised Chelsea haven't made a move for Sanchez tbh

Matic
Fabregas - Oscar
Sanchez - Costa - Hazard

Still think Chelsea lack a bit of width at times

That is something i have been saying for ******* ages!!!!!! Think it may help a little bit having Azpilicueta right back instead of Ivanovic and someone like Felipe Luis left back as they can offer some width. But within our attacking line the likes of Hazard, Schurrle, Salah etc are all inside forwards more than wingers. None love to go round the outside of the full back.
 
That is something i have been saying for ******* ages!!!!!! Think it may help a little bit having Azpilicueta right back instead of Ivanovic and someone like Felipe Luis left back as they can offer some width. But within our attacking line the likes of Hazard, Schurrle, Salah etc are all inside forwards more than wingers. None love to go round the outside of the full back.

Willian is so important for Jose.


AND PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, Pogba. Sign him up :((((((
 
Fantastic player, but seriously why do you need him? waste of money that could do on other positions

One of those situations where if an amazing player is possibly available, you sign him up. Pogba at Chelsea would turn them from a terrifying first eleven into arguably the second best in the entire world.

No doubt it would add depth and as you mentioned that midfield three would be arguably the world's best. I am surprised Chelsea haven't made a move for Sanchez tbh

Matic
Fabregas - Oscar
Sanchez - Costa - Hazard

Still think Chelsea lack a bit of width at times

Chelsea have lacked natural width for ages now, it's definitely their biggest weakness. Willian has done a lot to alleviate it though, it's why I'm a big fan of his.

Willian is so important for Jose.


AND PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, Pogba. Sign him up :((((((

Aww you poor petal, sadfacing over not having signed Paul Pogba. :P
 
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