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1. His decision to go to China, like it or not, that is where he played, and that has an impact on the kind of player he is.
2. Actually Chelsea are really quite comfortable now, the need to dump him has passed.
3. Polarizing but effective on pitch >>>> loved and a bit rubbish. Recent United example Rooney vs Ferdinand.
5. Not if he is sat out. We already know its by far his biggest issue with Chelsea, and Jose his supposed to be his favoured manager, so that should tell you everything.
Yeah well that was the point of the post
Ah, I didn't read that far back.
Also, regarding Drogba, that's a guaranteed 6 points against Wenger this season then. He always loves bullying our lot ... Plus he'll probably become a good coach.
Actually no, Fergie's first choice was Ancelotti.
Mourinho was down the list probably because he's a short-term manager virtually always. Despite what Alcaraz says, United still looks to appoint managers for the long-term rather than a few seasons.
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I'd be interested too, if you don't mind
Yeah sure I need to refine my style a bit in how I link points together gunna have a couple more practices this week but once I am happy will definitely let you know
The beautiful games of an ordinary genius?
I know Chelsea are comfortable but that doesn't mean they won't be falling over themselves to dump him if the chance came up. It gives them extra impetus to make a luxury signing instead of paying £150k p/w to a third choice striker
Yes that does have an impact on the player he is but his past track record has shown that when playing in a good team and given the same conditions as Torres, he is far more effective
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Yeah LVG's track record shows he is the man for the long-term. Another 25 years of domination awaits, ***** out United fans
Shows he's the best man at rebuilding a club... that's what we need right now. Oh and just to add, this will be LVG's last role in management so it has a possibility of being more than a few seasons.
Oh and also who is the assistant, Ryan Giggs? We're still very much thinking about the bigger picture. If LVG retires at 65 so be it, but at least we'll have a ready made replacement taught by a manager who knows his stuff.
Not a chance, unless you give us Matic.
wow this has gone on and on and on!!! So lets chuck my 2 pence in shall i!
Torres has scored some big goals in Europe since joining us and also been involved in some big moments. Won the corner which led to Drogba's goal in Munich, 2 big goals away at Schalke, opener in the Europa League final, opener vs Bayern in the super cup but as much as the one against Barca didn't win us the game it did clinch it and there were 3 odd minutes of pure nervousness and massive Barca pressure coming up so it was a big goal.
Having said all that you cannot keep a player who has been okay just in Europe and prey he will continue to do that in the future not when he is receiving 170k a week! We now have a striker in his prime (Costa) a young lad (Lukaku) so maybe the third choice should be an old figurehead in Drogba? He will be on a far less wage than Torres and we will receive some money for Torres too so that massively helps with FFP too. Drogba is old yes, is past it yes, but i'd rather have a lower wage receiving Drogba not even on the bench than a 170k a week receiving Torres. Torres barely changes games from the bench either so its a pointless sub to have. Drogba could also mentor Lukaku which could be massive for the future of this club.
Torres has scored some big goals in Europe since joining us and also been involved in some big moments. Won the corner which led to Drogba's goal in Munich, 2 big goals away at Schalke, opener in the Europa League final, opener vs Bayern in the super cup but as much as the one against Barca didn't win us the game it did clinch it and there were 3 odd minutes of pure nervousness and massive Barca pressure coming up so it was a big goal.
Having said all that you cannot keep a player who has been okay just in Europe and prey he will continue to do that in the future not when he is receiving 170k a week! We now have a striker in his prime (Costa) a young lad (Lukaku) so maybe the third choice should be an old figurehead in Drogba? He will be on a far less wage than Torres and we will receive some money for Torres too so that massively helps with FFP too. Drogba is old yes, is past it yes, but i'd rather have a lower wage receiving Drogba not even on the bench than a 170k a week receiving Torres. Torres barely changes games from the bench either so its a pointless sub to have. Drogba could also mentor Lukaku which could be massive for the future of this club.
I don't doubt Drogba can still make an impact as 3rd choice striker. The issue is, he's doesn't make a very good 3rd-and-last striker. He's a 36 year old injury prone pensioner who can't even last 90 minutes at PL pace. That leaves you very vulnerable in my book in case some injuries and bookings occur (which they will).
These are all suppositions. He could last 90 minutes for all we know. I will agree he's not someone you want to rely on, though. If I were Chelsea I'd bring in a 27ish year old striker who's fine with sitting on the bench as the third choice and use Drogba in the Giggs role.
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Hey, bud. Before dragging Le Professeur into this, it would behoof you to remember we won the FA Cup last season. Or does that competition mean nothing either?
Shhh, nobody tell him!
I was referring the post to Chelsea but no one can deny Arsenal/Wenger are largely viewed as a club over the last several seasons who seem to have ambitions to finish in top 4 rather than winning the title. Or perhaps it's just a case of you always drift away throughout the season and end up struggling to get 4th.