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Just beat me to it as I was just coming in to post that.

It was clear Mrs Benitez was joking in what she said. For Mourinho to then get personal is a completely classless way to behave as sun noted and totally uncalled for.

But then should we expect any different from him?

This ongoing feud/ hatred of one another is nauseating in itself between Mourinho and Benitez. But this is taking it to another level.

Yeah, Benitez wife was joking and the article also mentioned that, that she said jokingly. The reply from Jose was out of order and why should lady be incharge of men's diet.
 
Chelsea news: Jose Mourinho hits back at Rafa Benitez's wife with 'fat' jibe - Telegraph

Fans mocking Rafa as fat rafa is one thing but a manger making fun of it is just classless.

It's because Mourinho is the head of the fat-shaming, misogynistic, anti-spanish, ultra wealthy patriarchy. Doesn't Rafa already feel bad enough when he goes into Topshop and sees the latest pair of high waisted jeans on a size 6 model? Why push this agenda when everyone is a beautiful, special little snowflake just the way that they are. That Jose man is just mean.

Seriously though, no one cares. If we're at a point where managers can't make a smartass comment every now and again without outrage then I just give up hope. Next people are going to say that Eden Hazard's name is a reference to the fall of mankind and highly offensive to Catholics.
 
It's because Mourinho is the head of the fat-shaming, misogynistic, anti-spanish, ultra wealthy patriarchy. Doesn't Rafa already feel bad enough when he goes into Topshop and sees the latest pair of high waisted jeans on a size 6 model? Why push this agenda when everyone is a beautiful, special little snowflake just the way that they are. That Jose man is just mean.

Seriously though, no one cares. If we're at a point where managers can't make a smartass comment every now and again without outrage then I just give up hope. Next people are going to say that Eden Hazard's name is a reference to the fall of mankind and highly offensive to Catholics.

Yeah, no one blinks when he makes smartass comments now and then, he makes it everytime and there is a line which he shouldn't cross. Making fun of someone's physicality is a strict no IMO. And pointing something wrong doesn't mean someone is outraged. People can make their point by being perfectly calm and normal.

May be you didn't mind him poking Pep's assistant eye, what's it like in life without physical battles everynow and then.
 
..... Seriously though, no one cares. If we're at a point where managers can't make a smartass comment every now and again without outrage then I just give up hope. Next people are going to say that Eden Hazard's name is a reference to the fall of mankind and highly offensive to Catholics.

People care enough for it to be headlining every major sports news outlet.

Personal attacks are completely and utterly uncalled for. You get paid the mega bucks and are afforded that position with the staple expectation you'll be professional at the very least and rise above ****. So when you don't, and take it one step further like this, you bet your *** people care and it will be big news.

I really used to like Mourinho the first go-around. No so much his brand of football (the main reason I fell completely out of love with Rafa); but he was completely different and a refreshing, funny personality. But his second go-around here he's come back an absolute A1 classless *****.

It doubtless means little to Chelsea fans, but there's a reason he's detested all over the Country and it's not down to the success he has.
 
I thnk it's fascinating in some aspects. The more threatened Jose is, the nastier he gets. This is a return to the bad Madrid days, he's worrying about the season ahead so he is hitting out at just about everyone he can think of. Not particularly successfully either.
 
I thnk it's fascinating in some aspects. The more threatened Jose is, the nastier he gets. This is a return to the bad Madrid days, he's worrying about the season ahead so he is hitting out at just about everyone he can think of. Not particularly successfully either.

Yeah, It's all fine and dandy for Jose to criticise and make snarky comments at other managers out of the blue but when it's against him he can't take it at all.

Clearly Mrs Benitez unwittingly hit a serious nerve with the arrogant ....
 
To be honest even as a Chelsea fan I don't pay much attention to what Mourinho says. I tend to only listen to his pre-match, post-match and the odd interview like BT Sport did, that's about it. I love him to bits and he's an absolute legend of the game, but sometimes he does need to learn when to give it a rest.
 
Yeah, no one blinks when he makes smartass comments now and then, he makes it everytime and there is a line which he shouldn't cross. Making fun of someone's physicality is a strict no IMO.

But when other managers imply that a player/manager is dumb or slow, that's totally fine? Why the arbitrary distinction at physical traits over any others? You'd have more of a point if you were saying that he shouldn't be making fun of anyone. Even then, there's an acceptable line and if people genuinely think that a small remark like this crosses that then we might as well pack it all in now.


And pointing something wrong doesn't mean someone is outraged. People can make their point by being perfectly calm and normal.

May be you didn't mind him poking Pep's assistant eye, what's it like in life without physical battles everynow and then.

There's the outrage and hysteria. You make a massive logical leap and decide that because I have no issue with some back and forth between two public figures, I obviously support a violent assault. I've said multiple times on this forum, I don't particularly like Mourinho's persona. When he came back from Madrid, I expressed concern about the nastiness it had been developing in recent times. I think he acts like a **** more often than not, but that doesn't change that the response to this has been hysterical precisely because it's Mourinho.

People care enough for it to be headlining every major sports news outlet.

Not because of what he said, but because it was Mourinho that said it. The reason it's headlining everywhere is because it's an easy way for papers to print money at the expense of your outrage, which they themselves have done a large part in stirring.

Personal attacks are completely and utterly uncalled for.

I like how, if you read the full transcripts, her comments are considerably more serious than his, but he is a vile slanderous ******* but she's just having a laugh. He defended himself and then made a little quip at the end: this wasn't some tirade about what a fat pig Benitez is.

You get paid the mega bucks and are afforded that position with the staple expectation you'll be professional at the very least and rise above ****. So when you don't, and take it one step further like this, you bet your *** people care and it will be big news.

It depends on what you define as professionalism. I wouldn't call a small smart *** remark unprofessional in the context it was used, especially because managers routinely say worse things all the time in press conferences. There are often light hearted atmospheres in situations like this, where a little humour and (I loathe the culture that the word refers to now, but...) banter is common.

I really used to like Mourinho the first go-around. No so much his brand of football (the main reason I fell completely out of love with Rafa); but he was completely different and a refreshing, funny personality. But his second go-around here he's come back an absolute A1 classless *****.

He's always acted like an arrogant *****. He got slightly nastier at Real but he has always been like this in general. You might just be noticing a difference now because the way that he is reported on has changed, and his relationship with the press is not as immaculate as it once was.
 
Whether intended or not, that just reads like your defending, excusing him and trying to justify this just because he's your clubs managers Subtle.

Each to their own, but I'd be totally ****** and embarrassed if Rodgers had come out with similar.
 
I have the utmost respect for him as a coach/ manager.

As a man, it's a whole other story.

Nothing he's ever said has really bothered me to honest. The only thing that has to an extent was his jibe at the Chelsea fans last season, I think that was a little uncalled for. However that man you speak off is only seen in interviews etc, from what I understand Jose's actually a really nice guy. Quite often I'll hear stories of how he congratulates the opposition after beating us, he did this after Bradford beat us in the cup last season.
 
Neither, just think he is a bit of a parody, doesn't register high enough for me to hate or love what he does. Just think it's interesting that he is a worried about the transfer market right now.

Well he should be worried. At the moment are only true defensive backup is Zouma. We need at least a new LB (Rahman?), a versatile CB (Stones) and an AM (Griezmann?). However the one thing I'm most worried about above all else is if Fabregas and Matic both get injured at the same time (Touch wood), the idea of having to rely on Mikel and Ramires truly frightens me.
 
With Jose you have to ignore the obvious ( calling Rafa fat). I look at it as a message to his wife: Back to the kitchen, you don't know s**t about football.
Not that I agree with anything he said.
 
Well he should be worried. At the moment are only true defensive backup is Zouma. We need at least a new LB (Rahman?), a versatile CB (Stones) and an AM (Griezmann?). However the one thing I'm most worried about above all else is if Fabregas and Matic both get injured at the same time (Touch wood), the idea of having to rely on Mikel and Ramires truly frightens me.

Indeed a good journo would look beyond the rhetoric and see what he actually means. You havent hit your targets so far, and your rivals have. He then says buying the league to cover for that fact. Meanwhile moves for Griezmann and Stones are yet to come off.
 
Indeed a good journo would look beyond the rhetoric and see what he actually means. You havent hit your targets so far, and your rivals have. He then says buying the league to cover for that fact. Meanwhile moves for Griezmann and Stones are yet to come off.

Precisely, but unfortunately there seems to be a lack of good football journalists at the moment. I wouldn't say our rivals have hit their targets so far though, the only team that have is United. City have quality but overall I still believe it's a poor squad and Arsenal, although they seem to have sorted out the goalkeeping problem there's still a few positions that need strengthening IMO. I think we'll get Stones and a new LB eventually, but I can't see anyone else joining.
 
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Well I actually think that Mourinho is right on this:

1. There is a LOT of bad blood between him and Rafa especially in relation to what happened with Inter after he left and, erm Rafa decided to employ his magic on them thereby pulling the whole squad apart.

2. Hence yes, Mrs Rafa may have been joking but there WAS an attempt at "truth" behind what she said. Or, in the light of 1 above she should not even have thought to say what she said about cleaning Mou's mess. The only "mess" Mou has ever left was at R Madrid and even that is debatable as I think he tried to do what any strong willed, dignified person would do in his place: not bow down to player pressure.

3. Where does all this PR touchiness come from?! Why is football manager the only profession you cannot be called **** at (if you are **** that is)?! Rafa, especially compared to the awesomeness that is Mourinho is a ridiculous, whinging "little" man who simply lucked into winning a CL trophu with the scousers (and if you dont believe me have a look at all their matches - including the final- in that run). And thats a FACT!!!! Hehehehehe (geddit?!).

4. Mourinho is simply doing what he's always done: focussing all the attention on him and away from Chelski and any squad limitations, deficiencies and other issues that may be happening thereby protecting his players. For example what do Chelski have beyond a (quite strong admittedly) fist XI and maybe a couple more players?! And yet almost nobody even touches on that and has them down as favourites to win the league (if they are favourites its because of Mourinho mainly). SAF did exactly the same thing and he's lauded for it.

And before people retort that we lucked into the 1999 CL trophy, Im going to accept that we did so. But it was only one match in a run where we played a LOT of good footy.
 
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Because it's so obvious. Just because fans abuse some players doesn't mean manager can. They have different responsibilities.

Anyways why fans are different from players and managers doesn't even merit discussion.

Lol Wut ... So just because I am a fan, it's okay to insult someone physically but as a manager it's a big no no. Strange. After all, if you hold one set of moral standards for human beings then you can't just change them when it suits you
 
Lol Wut ... So just because I am a fan, it's okay to insult someone physically but as a manager it's a big no no. Strange. After all, if you hold one set of moral standards for human beings then you can't just change them when it suits you

Yeah, common fan is same as person who is in high position and representing big club.
 
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