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Juventus still retain an interest in Cuadrado. I wouldn't mind selling him at all. It will force the boards hand to strengthen and bring in a proper world-class AM to complement Hazard hopefully

Or just keep Victor Moses as our only other option.
 
Lots of (understandable) negativity around at the moment, but there were some positives in the last game. Oscar for example, looked a lot more like the player we hoped he would be than he has done in a long time. If we don't make that midfield signing, our season could hinge on his creativity, so it's nice to see him getting a bit of flair back into his game.
 
Lots of (understandable) negativity around at the moment, but there were some positives in the last game. Oscar for example, looked a lot more like the player we hoped he would be than he has done in a long time. If we don't make that midfield signing, our season could hinge on his creativity, so it's nice to see him getting a bit of flair back into his game.

Oscars performance was fantastic ... Expected nothing less after a full summers rest
 
Oscars performance was fantastic ... Expected nothing less after a full summers rest

Hopefully Mourinho doesn't sacrifice Oscar against City on Sunday (He has a tendency to do this in the 'big' games) because he's the only player after that Swansea performance that 100% deserves to play IMO.
 
Hopefully Mourinho doesn't sacrifice Oscar against City on Sunday (He has a tendency to do this in the 'big' games) because he's the only player after that Swansea performance that 100% deserves to play IMO.

I have nightmares of:

Hazard-Willian-Moses
----Matic-Ramires----

*shudders*
 
Thats a somewhat unfair characterization. He went to Inter when their team was ageing and he brought them the treble. He went to Madrid when they were up against a mighty Barcelona side who were crushing everyone in their path

An Inter side completely ahead of the field in Italy with no realistic challenger. And Madrid with an open bankroll to add to a pretty darn good squad to start with.

Nobody's questioning his managerial ability but he's been very savvy right through his career in the jobs he's picked being the perfect club/ financial situations.
 
Well yeah, Mou's great and all, but to be even able to afford his services, your club already has to be doing very good.

Then again, it'd be pointless to hold it against Jose that he has enough charisma and strength of personality to squeeze every last drop of money out of the club boards. Something that Benitez for example isn't able to do in 3rd club in a row. Perhaps his Power Point presentations aren't as appealing. When it happened after he took over in Inter, we could wave it of as pure coincidence, but now that its apparently happening to Rafa in Madrid as well, its a pattern.
 
An Inter side completely ahead of the field in Italy with no realistic challenger. And Madrid with an open bankroll to add to a pretty darn good squad to start with.

Nobody's questioning his managerial ability but he's been very savvy right through his career in the jobs he's picked being the perfect club/ financial situations.

Nonetheless, no one gave that Inter side hope in **** of winning the champions league and he did. Also Madrid have always had a open bankroll but still couldn't challenge that Barcelona side until Mourinho came there

And I wouldn't say he is savvy in picking clubs with great financial situation. Top managers naturally get hired by big clubs who usually have a great financial situation far ahead of their opponents. You could practically accuse Ancelloti or Guardiola of doing the exact same thing
 
Anyone like that is savvy and more than likely wouldn't take on any situation without the guaranteed spending power/ dominating club scenario.

Better?
 
Well yeah, Mou's great and all, but to be even able to afford his services, your club already has to be doing very good.

Then again, it'd be pointless to hold it against Jose that he has enough charisma and strength of personality to squeeze every last drop of money out of the club boards. Something that Benitez for example isn't able to do in 3rd club in a row. Perhaps his Power Point presentations aren't as appealing. When it happened after he took over in Inter, we could wave it of as pure coincidence, but now that its apparently happening to Rafa in Madrid as well, its a pattern.

Benitez is power-hungry. He wants to micro manage clubs to the last detail. At EVERY level. He got away with it to a large extent at Anfield (and some of the **** he pulled behind the scenes particularly as regards to transfers you wouldn't believe); but that just doesn't fly in the political World of Italian/ Spanish football were the President is King as he's found out to his cost.
 
Anyone like that is savvy and more than likely wouldn't take on any situation without the guaranteed spending power/ dominating club scenario.

Better?

Yeah sure. I am sure that applies to any top manager though. You won't see Ancelloti take over at Newcastle tomorrow just for the challenge
 
Well yeah, Mou's great and all, but to be even able to afford his services, your club already has to be doing very good.

Then again, it'd be pointless to hold it against Jose that he has enough charisma and strength of personality to squeeze every last drop of money out of the club boards. Something that Benitez for example isn't able to do in 3rd club in a row. Perhaps his Power Point presentations aren't as appealing. When it happened after he took over in Inter, we could wave it of as pure coincidence, but now that its apparently happening to Rafa in Madrid as well, its a pattern.

At Inter Moratti's dream was winning CL and to achieve that he had already spent billion euros in transfer fee. He just couldn't anymore with Italian market crumbling and also his company not doing any better. He just opted not to invest heavy money like he did all the years. Still they invested decent money but on **** players. Story of Inter's transfer activity since their treble.

Also at Liverpool, he didn't spend money was a myth.
From 2004-2010 - Liverpool Spent 245 Million pounds, net spend of 103
Arsenal - 107 M, net spend of -14M
ManUtd - 205M, net spend of 63
Chelsea - 311, net spent of 125.

Only Chelsea spent more than Liverpool.
 
Benitez is power-hungry. He wants to micro manage clubs to the last detail. At EVERY level. .

All top managers are all like that . Exactly why they're so succesful in a first place. I wouldn"t be entirely shocked if Benitez tries to control the density and water absorbent capabilites of toilet paper in the backroom, or if Mourinho hires a Japanese swordsmith to sharpen all the forks in the club cafeteria. Also, rumour is, Ancelotti has his chewing gums hand-made by Tibetan monks during full moon.
 
Benitez takes it to the extreme at Anfield. From the very lowest youth level to wanting to negotiate not only transfer fees but everyone, staff, players et all's contracts himself and all points in between.
 
Also at Liverpool, he didn't spend money was a myth.
From 2004-2010 - Liverpool Spent 245 Million pounds, net spend of 103
Arsenal - 107 M, net spend of -14M
ManUtd - 205M, net spend of 63
Chelsea - 311, net spent of 125.

Only Chelsea spent more than Liverpool.

Lol, as usual you're completely delusional about United's spending, which is hilarious considering the amount of times the old git has raised various domestic transfer records.

Its almost as if by ~2004 United already had world class core squad with Rooney, Rio, Neville, Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo, RvN and VdS, and didn't actually require much spending to compete.

Same with Arsenal, they had the Invincibles.

Chelsea blew up over 200 million over the first 2 years (twice as much as the whole ******* club was worth when Roman took over) and achieved similar stability - they no longer had to spend big every season and could just move their assets around.

Meanwhile Liverpool had absolute garbage squad that somehow managed to win Champions League on a 1 in a million shot. The only people who you could considered world class were Gerrard and Alonso. Carragher was a very good defender, but he's no John Terry. Hyppia andd Hamman were solid , but already in their 30s and needed to be transitioned out soon. The rest of the team was absolute wank.
 
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