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Luiz take a bow son
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..and there was me saying Luiz should be played in the midfield.. Yeah, probably not.
think he said if you dont win im staying
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yeah, the bloke taking you through to a european final and finishing in the top 4 said 'lol if you lose i'm staying' hahahahahahahahaha the humour oh the humour hahahahahah
jesus wept
First half i thought we lacked that ball in the final 3rd but always looked a threat. First two goals had an air of luck about them but if you apply the pressure you get the rewards, i thought Moses deserved his goal and always happy when Torres scores. Luiz's goal just wow! Weaker foot 25 odd yards out curls into the top corner just sensational! Personally thought he was a little off tonight in terms of his passing but when he sticks one in the upper 90 (as our friends from the US like to call it) you just cannot knock the guy. Man of the match for me was Hazard, this lad is already world class without a shadow of a doubt. Is this the final we wanted to be in? No of course it isn't but its a final none the less and a final which Arsenal and Spurs etc would absolutely love to be in right now and with no suspensions you have to fancy us. UTC
Ever since Rafa had that outburst, there has been a calmer atmosphere round your place, and results have generally been better. You might not love him, but when you are all pulling in the same direction it goes a long way. That's just human nature. he hasnt been perfect but he's done a pretty good job. When you consider that Jose wants at least 5 high quality players just for a title challenge (should he return), that shows how far off the sqaud actually was.
Thing is the answers are right under our nose, starting 11-13 maybe even 14 are good enough to challenge but its the strength in depth. We have over 20 players out on loan, bring 4-5 of them back and bobs your uncle *****'s your aunt. I only ever slated Rafa for things he actually done wrong not things out of his control i.e taking the job in the first place and the depth of the squad. He has done an okay job in some parts but in other parts he has been woeful and its mistakes he constantly makes although he has been making them less in the last 2 odd weeks. I don't personally think we need 5 new signings or even Jose, Rafa isn't the answer either but just ****** some stability!
Indeed you have too much quality on loan in my view.
Not once single Chelsea fan would disagree mate. In my opinion you push Luiz into the midfield two along side Mikel, for me that could be the best paring. You bring back one of Kalas or both Bruma to fill Luiz's slot at centre back. If you bring both back you then can use Ivanovic as centre back again and use Kalas as back-up right back for Azpilicueta. You then use one of McEachran or Essien if Lampard stays, if Lampard leaves then you use both of them. Get rid of Marin and use De Bruyne, gives us more versatility and don't have to shell out 20 mill+ on Schurrle. Affectively the only position you could possibly splash out on is for a new striker but this is only if Torres ends up leaving (which i doubt). If he doesn't leave then you use Lukaku and have him, Ba and Torres as your 3 next season.
Seems so simple BECAUSE IT IS!!!!!
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You mean "outburst". This Rafa we're talking about, the guy propably does 30 minute session of warmup and dry runs before brushing his teeth and keeps a video record of every brushing to try and improve efficiency.
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Jose Mourinho to Chelsea? Road to Special One’s second coming not straightforward
Jose Mourinho was yelling at his players. “I need more from you,’’ he shouted at Frank Lampard, John Terry and the rest of the Chelsea team being held 0-0 at Bolton Wanderers on April 30, 2005. Standing in the centre of the dressing-room at half-time, Mourinho demanded a “jersey” for himself.
Feeling blue: Jose Mourinho seems to favour a return to Chelsea but problems could lie ahead
By Henry Winter
10:30PM BST 04 May 2013
“Give Stevie [Clarke] a jersey, give [Baltemar] Brito a jersey and for five minutes we’ll show you the passion needed to win a game like this,’’ Mourinho declared.
Just five minutes. The three of them would give everything, even though Mourinho’s playing days were both nondescript and distant, Clarke had retired five years before and Brito, 54, was not the most accomplished centre-back ever produced by Brazil. Mourinho was simply challenging his drained players.
They were so close to the title, a first in 50 years. They had worked so hard. They just needed to find that ounce more sweat that Mourinho himself would bring if able to pull on that blue top. “And after five minutes bring oxygen, call an ambulance and take me to hospital,’’ Mourinho said.
Classic Mourinho. There’s a lot of humour to the man, a quality many of his players enjoy but his many critics do not see. His players responded, dragging up the required energy. Lampard scored twice and Chelsea left the Reebok as champions with Joe Cole waving out of the skylight of the team bus.
Managers are assessed on signings, strategies, man-management and the ability to influence the course of games, whether through substitutions, tactical tweaks or interval rhetoric. On Dec 12, 2004, Mourinho let rip at players trailing 2-1 at Highbury. Chelsea’s very frank official biography notes how Mourinho threw a cup full of Lucozade which cascaded down Clarke and Carlo Cudicini.
The missiles, real and verbal, continued. Mourinho launched a tub of Vaseline at the wall, which dripped down towards the clothes of the fitness coach Rui Faria. Mourinho was oblivious, too busy screaming at the players who reacted positively. Eidur Gudjohnsen equalised and Chelsea took an important point. Afterwards, Mourinho apologised for the outburst and assorted projectiles. There’s a humanity to a man often depicted by his enemies as soulless, as a peacock obsessed only with his CV and mirror.
The story of the self-annointed Special One is also of a special impact on others. He inspires players. “Listen guys,’’ Mourinho told the Chelsea squad on their first meeting in 2004, “you’ve done nothing in the game but if you stick with me we are going to win this league by April’.’’ Cole looked at Mourinho. “Who is this geezer?” he thought. Then training started. It was so intense and well-structured that all the players knew they were going places with this cocksure coach. Cole played his most effective football under Mourinho.
Lampard used his autobiography to record his gratitude to Mourinho for developing him. Emerging from the showers in Seattle in pre-season that 2004 summer, Lampard was told by the waiting Mourinho that he was “the best player in the world” and now was the time to prove it, to dominate games and win trophies.
Mourinho makes good players believe more, deliver more. He fell short at Real Madrid, barring one remarkable La Liga campaign, but otherwise he has enthused squads from Porto to Chelsea and Inter Milan. And not only players. Look around the Premier League. Mourinho’s tutoring can be seen in the burgeoning achievements of three highly regarded young managers, Andre Villas-Boas, Brendan Rodgers and Clarke.
Anyone seeking to judge properly this complicated coach must also contemplate the charge-sheet. For all his charisma, Mourinho lacks the dignity of Michael Laudrup or Carlo Ancelotti, whose feted playing days bequeathed a security so they never feel the urge to indulge in managerial tricks. Mourinho’s career is a catalogue of mind games, frequent jibes against referees like Anders Frisk, unseemly comments about opposing managers like Arsène Wenger and occasional rifts with players like Iker Casillas. He winds up rival fans, shushing Kopites. He even poked Tito Vilanova of Barcelona in the eye. He has done much wrong.
The Spanish media will not miss 'Mou'. El Mundo newspaper contacted me last week, enquiring why Mourinho feels loved in England and loathed in Spain. He is popular here because he adds spice to football life, because he takes on Manchester United and because he is fun. Last Friday’s diatribe at the Spanish media would have caused delight here.
“The press don’t know the starting XI? Correct. I don’t put your beloved children in the team? Correct.” Such comments would have been greeted with gales of laughter at an English press conference.
Now he prepares to leave Real amidst much flirting with his old love Chelsea. The strong expectation had hitherto been that he would continue his European tour by alighting in France, at Paris St-Germain, a club with all the hallmarks of a Mourinho project. Wealthy, ambitious benefactor? Tick. Long time without European glory? Tick.
But the talk is now of Chelsea who need an adrenalin shot, a bonding agent. Rafael Benítez has guided them to the Europa League final but the gulf remains between interim manager and fans and the gap grows behind team and Premier League leaders. Mourinho would galvanise Chelsea in the league, making them pursue United more tenaciously. Mourinho’s return would stir up the title pot. “It will make me angry,’’ remarked Sir Alex Ferguson.
The road to the Special One’s Second Coming is not straightforward. So many questions need considering by Roman Abramovich and the board. Could Mourinho work with Michael Emenalo, the technical director who drives transfer policy with Abramovich? Could Mourinho persuade Chelsea to keep Lampard? Do any of the players still have issues with him? Not all were heartbroken at his leaving on Sept 20, 2007.
Will he give youth a chance? Chelsea boast a string of talented youngsters from FA Youth Cup finalists to Romelu Lukaku on prolific loan at Clarke’s West Brom. Mourinho does not have a reputation of gambling on kids, although he has been rewarded for backing Raphael Varane, one of Europe’s rising stars, at the Bernabeu.
And what will his style be? The title winners of 2005 and 2006 were all about power. Chelsea’s recent direction under Abramovich involves turning the pitch into a canvas for the elegant brush-strokes of artists like Juan Mata, Oscar and Eden Hazard. Small is beautiful. Mourinho has utilised such nimble creatures before from Deco at Porto, Cole at Chelsea, Wesley Sneijder at Inter and through the creativity of Mesut Ozil, Angel di Maria and of course the tall, athletic match-winner Cristiano Ronaldo at Real. Mourinho’s teams have become more expansive.
Chelsea’s board seem to want to build the team, arguably the club, around David Luiz, who is likely to succeed Terry as captain. Luiz is the conundrum everyone must consider when rushing Mourinho back to SW6. It is hard to see the risk-taking Brazilian as a Mourinho stalwart, certainly not in defence where the coach prefers more calculating characters like Ricardo Carvalho at Porto and Chelsea, Walter ‘The Wall’ Samuel at Inter, and the physical Sergio Ramos at Real.
Luiz has been stationed in midfield to eye-catching effect by Benítez. Yet Mourinho wants a defensive type in there from Costinha at Porto, Claude Makelele at Chelsea to Javier Zanetti and Esteban Cambiasso at Inter. At Real, he has paired Sami Khedira and Xabi Alonso (with great passing range). If Mourinho does return to the Bridge, his use of Luiz will be fascinating. Abramovich will be watching closely. Everyone will. Nobody attracts attention quite like Jose Mourinho.
Jose Mourinho to Chelsea? Road to Special One’s second coming not straightforward
Jose Mourinho was yelling at his players. “I need more from you,’’ he shouted at Frank Lampard, John Terry and the rest of the Chelsea team being held 0-0 at Bolton Wanderers on April 30, 2005. Standing in the centre of the dressing-room at half-time, Mourinho demanded a “jersey” for himself.
Feeling blue: Jose Mourinho seems to favour a return to Chelsea but problems could lie ahead
By Henry Winter
10:30PM BST 04 May 2013
“Give Stevie [Clarke] a jersey, give [Baltemar] Brito a jersey and for five minutes we’ll show you the passion needed to win a game like this,’’ Mourinho declared.
Just five minutes. The three of them would give everything, even though Mourinho’s playing days were both nondescript and distant, Clarke had retired five years before and Brito, 54, was not the most accomplished centre-back ever produced by Brazil. Mourinho was simply challenging his drained players.
They were so close to the title, a first in 50 years. They had worked so hard. They just needed to find that ounce more sweat that Mourinho himself would bring if able to pull on that blue top. “And after five minutes bring oxygen, call an ambulance and take me to hospital,’’ Mourinho said.
Classic Mourinho. There’s a lot of humour to the man, a quality many of his players enjoy but his many critics do not see. His players responded, dragging up the required energy. Lampard scored twice and Chelsea left the Reebok as champions with Joe Cole waving out of the skylight of the team bus.
Managers are assessed on signings, strategies, man-management and the ability to influence the course of games, whether through substitutions, tactical tweaks or interval rhetoric. On Dec 12, 2004, Mourinho let rip at players trailing 2-1 at Highbury. Chelsea’s very frank official biography notes how Mourinho threw a cup full of Lucozade which cascaded down Clarke and Carlo Cudicini.
The missiles, real and verbal, continued. Mourinho launched a tub of Vaseline at the wall, which dripped down towards the clothes of the fitness coach Rui Faria. Mourinho was oblivious, too busy screaming at the players who reacted positively. Eidur Gudjohnsen equalised and Chelsea took an important point. Afterwards, Mourinho apologised for the outburst and assorted projectiles. There’s a humanity to a man often depicted by his enemies as soulless, as a peacock obsessed only with his CV and mirror.
The story of the self-annointed Special One is also of a special impact on others. He inspires players. “Listen guys,’’ Mourinho told the Chelsea squad on their first meeting in 2004, “you’ve done nothing in the game but if you stick with me we are going to win this league by April’.’’ Cole looked at Mourinho. “Who is this geezer?” he thought. Then training started. It was so intense and well-structured that all the players knew they were going places with this cocksure coach. Cole played his most effective football under Mourinho.
Lampard used his autobiography to record his gratitude to Mourinho for developing him. Emerging from the showers in Seattle in pre-season that 2004 summer, Lampard was told by the waiting Mourinho that he was “the best player in the world” and now was the time to prove it, to dominate games and win trophies.
Mourinho makes good players believe more, deliver more. He fell short at Real Madrid, barring one remarkable La Liga campaign, but otherwise he has enthused squads from Porto to Chelsea and Inter Milan. And not only players. Look around the Premier League. Mourinho’s tutoring can be seen in the burgeoning achievements of three highly regarded young managers, Andre Villas-Boas, Brendan Rodgers and Clarke.
Anyone seeking to judge properly this complicated coach must also contemplate the charge-sheet. For all his charisma, Mourinho lacks the dignity of Michael Laudrup or Carlo Ancelotti, whose feted playing days bequeathed a security so they never feel the urge to indulge in managerial tricks. Mourinho’s career is a catalogue of mind games, frequent jibes against referees like Anders Frisk, unseemly comments about opposing managers like Arsène Wenger and occasional rifts with players like Iker Casillas. He winds up rival fans, shushing Kopites. He even poked Tito Vilanova of Barcelona in the eye. He has done much wrong.
The Spanish media will not miss 'Mou'. El Mundo newspaper contacted me last week, enquiring why Mourinho feels loved in England and loathed in Spain. He is popular here because he adds spice to football life, because he takes on Manchester United and because he is fun. Last Friday’s diatribe at the Spanish media would have caused delight here.
“The press don’t know the starting XI? Correct. I don’t put your beloved children in the team? Correct.” Such comments would have been greeted with gales of laughter at an English press conference.
Now he prepares to leave Real amidst much flirting with his old love Chelsea. The strong expectation had hitherto been that he would continue his European tour by alighting in France, at Paris St-Germain, a club with all the hallmarks of a Mourinho project. Wealthy, ambitious benefactor? Tick. Long time without European glory? Tick.
But the talk is now of Chelsea who need an adrenalin shot, a bonding agent. Rafael Benítez has guided them to the Europa League final but the gulf remains between interim manager and fans and the gap grows behind team and Premier League leaders. Mourinho would galvanise Chelsea in the league, making them pursue United more tenaciously. Mourinho’s return would stir up the title pot. “It will make me angry,’’ remarked Sir Alex Ferguson.
The road to the Special One’s Second Coming is not straightforward. So many questions need considering by Roman Abramovich and the board. Could Mourinho work with Michael Emenalo, the technical director who drives transfer policy with Abramovich? Could Mourinho persuade Chelsea to keep Lampard? Do any of the players still have issues with him? Not all were heartbroken at his leaving on Sept 20, 2007.
Will he give youth a chance? Chelsea boast a string of talented youngsters from FA Youth Cup finalists to Romelu Lukaku on prolific loan at Clarke’s West Brom. Mourinho does not have a reputation of gambling on kids, although he has been rewarded for backing Raphael Varane, one of Europe’s rising stars, at the Bernabeu.
And what will his style be? The title winners of 2005 and 2006 were all about power. Chelsea’s recent direction under Abramovich involves turning the pitch into a canvas for the elegant brush-strokes of artists like Juan Mata, Oscar and Eden Hazard. Small is beautiful. Mourinho has utilised such nimble creatures before from Deco at Porto, Cole at Chelsea, Wesley Sneijder at Inter and through the creativity of Mesut Ozil, Angel di Maria and of course the tall, athletic match-winner Cristiano Ronaldo at Real. Mourinho’s teams have become more expansive.
Chelsea’s board seem to want to build the team, arguably the club, around David Luiz, who is likely to succeed Terry as captain. Luiz is the conundrum everyone must consider when rushing Mourinho back to SW6. It is hard to see the risk-taking Brazilian as a Mourinho stalwart, certainly not in defence where the coach prefers more calculating characters like Ricardo Carvalho at Porto and Chelsea, Walter ‘The Wall’ Samuel at Inter, and the physical Sergio Ramos at Real.
Luiz has been stationed in midfield to eye-catching effect by Benítez. Yet Mourinho wants a defensive type in there from Costinha at Porto, Claude Makelele at Chelsea to Javier Zanetti and Esteban Cambiasso at Inter. At Real, he has paired Sami Khedira and Xabi Alonso (with great passing range). If Mourinho does return to the Bridge, his use of Luiz will be fascinating. Abramovich will be watching closely. Everyone will. Nobody attracts attention quite like Jose Mourinho.
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MASSIVE MASSIVE MASSIVE WIN!!!!!!!!!! Mata is something else, not his best game but he was the reason we won again.
Now 6 more points, please!!!!!!!!!!!
Now 6 more points, please!!!!!!!!!!!
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Where would Arsenal be without Cazorla, Where would Spurs be without Bale, Where would United be without Persie..
1) They would be without trophy
2) They would be without CL
3) Probably still at top of the table.