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oh about that, I agree with you. he isnt.
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oh about that, I agree with you. he isnt.
Ok well im not then lol.
For what though?? Although he is in a league dominated by two sides he hasn't won anything. I give him credit for being able to keep his side third best in the league under tough circumstances i.e selling their big players. But of for me he is way down the list in my choices for next gaffer.
When the two best sides are Real and Barca and you dont have any money, its pretty much impossible, indeed only manager to do it is Rafa in recent times. His tactical approach and style is excellent, more than worthy of Chelsea. You have very inflated opinions of your club if you dont think he is good enough.
Out of curiosity, who would you have? (Except for Mourinho)
I like to think i'm one of the majority that don't get carried away and think we are better than we actually are. All im saying is that there are many more better suited managers to Chelsea than him and funnily enough Benitez is one of them but that wont happen.
Jose Mourinho - Although if we don't get Champs League football i don't see him joining and i wouldn't blame him.
Pep Guardiola - Long shot indeed but has shown in the past he can get rid of the big name failing ego's i.e Eto'o, Ibrahimovic and Ronaldinho.
Jurgan Klopp - Showing how to build a team of youngsters properly.
Roberto Di Matteo - Mainly because of his Chelsea past, loves the club so he may do the right things.
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I say bring back Ray Wilkins.
There is no way on Gods green earth you can put Di Matteo as a better option than Emery, Carl.
Should never have been sacked, was the start of the quick downfall.
I only do that because of the link with the club. Bobby D loves the club and may see things the way fans do. Its not just that but his coach he takes everywhere Eddie Newton is a Ray Wilkins like figure in the way he gets on with the players as a friend. So not just Di Matteo on his own but he and Newton for me could work.
I love our debates, and of course its always down to opinions. But I just cant agree anywhere with this one. I do like Di Matteo though, but just no. Emery >>> Di Matteo + Newton.
They are good debates lol, like i say i haven't seen/heard much of Emery because in Spain its always about just 2 sides. I think the connection Di Matteo has with Chelsea just puts him in front. Saying all this we shouldn't even be having this conversation because Ancelotti should still be serving out his final year of his contract.
On that we definitely agree, Carlo should never have been sacked.
Why Emery? I think AVB has proven that Chelsea isn't for the inexperienced manager.. Sure, he's been at Valencia a few years but he hasn't really experienced a lot. I think Chelsea would do to him what they did to Villas Boas.
I also think that begging Mourinho to come back is a total cop-out. Although, anything is better than having Di Matteo in charge.
Won't happen.
Definitely won't happen.
Why leave rhat team of youngsters that are developing into a superb squad and a club where you are backed by the fans and the board, to go to an old squad that needs total renovation, has a bunch of massive egos, is fractured internally+ a club where the fans and the board will turn on you like that if things don't go well immediately? It was understandable pre AVB because we all though Roman was going to give him time, support and money but now the job's more of a poisoned chalice than ever.
That's not good enough for a team that wants to challenge for everything. His love of the club isn't going to stop the player power, or make him pick the right tactic or make him choose the right transfer targets. Dalglish loves Liverpool and looks how that's working out!
The only manager we'll get will be someone with something to prove or some one who wants the boatload of money. No other top class manager will consider us because why the **** would you?
Because every manager who has ever lived believes in themselves and believes they have something different that might work. Chelsea are one of the best/biggest/richest clubs around and so manager top managers will want to show why they are the best in the world and where better to do it.
It's one thing to believe in yourself, it's another to believe you can turn a squad like ours around. AVB was very confidant, some may say overly so, and look where that got him...
Somewhere you'll get time, support and understanding? Honestly, the only top names we have a chance of luring to the Bridge are those that have something to prove.
If you think of it like this
Tier 1
World Class Managers, ie. Pep, Jose etc
Tier 1.5
Excellent managers who have recently failed, ie. Hiddink, Van Gaal, Benitez etc
Tier 2
Solid managers with little proven at the top level, ie. Moyes, Emery
Tier 2.5
Managers who haven't been that successful but have potential, ie. Zola, RDM, Martinez etc
Tier 3
Good but limited managers, ie. Warnock, Curbishley, Allardyce.
Tier 47
McLeish
we are hunting in the 1.5-2 range. We cannot offer the stability, the support or the squad to attract a tier 1 manager, so our best hope is to take a somewhat disgraced but previously excellent manager (relatively high risk, high reward) or to take the more solid, but more limited tier 2 choice (fairly low risk, most likely to be a medium reward). You're overestimating how much our wealth and status count for considering how toxic the club seems to be to manage. That is the reason clubs like United and Arsenal are far more likely destinations for your tier 1 candidates: they can offer the things that matter most to a top tier manager in the form of time and stability.
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I think your another on who has jumped on the 'Senior players at Chelsea run the club' media bandwagon.
The reason AVB got sacked was first and foremost and that was results. He was employing tactics that did not suit the majority of the squad and that was why we were on a prolonged bad run of form because his tactics just did not get the best out of most of his players.
Also AVB's relationship with the senior players had broken down and this was the fault of both AVB and the senior players. He just did not communicate properly with them while other players like Lampard did not show the right conduct as well.
I still think Emery would be a good choice as long as he overhauls the squad this summer and communicate his ideas across properly.
Lampard said it himself ' He has no problems sitting on the bench but he wants to see Chelsea winning and and they were not winning even with him on the bench'
I think you took my words out of context. What I meant is that Mourinho is the only manager under whom things have run smoothly because every other manager has had their share of problems.
Scolari had a absolute **** relationship with the squad. He tried to sell Drogba for Adriano for christs sake.
Ancelloti had no problems particularly because under him the club was run like a circus, agents, hairdressers etc. were free to come inside the clubhouse whenever they wanted to.
Avram Grant was a joke nuff said.
And if you read my earlier posts, I really want Unai Emery for the job just as long as he is allowed to overhaul the squad this summer.
I would like Moyes although I think we are again going for glamour rather than grit in our managers if you understand what I mean
He had plenty of money and won back-to-back Premiere League titles for a club that had not won one in over 50 years. The reason he did not win Champions League was also down to a heavy dose of bad luck vs Barcelona.
Also if Mourinho is given the chance to undertake a long-term project, he should do a good job. You cant say the man has no vision when he has not even had a chance to undertake a long-term project yet considering whatever job he has had till now has been a poisoned chalice such as Chelsea, Inter Milan and RM
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