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Good point. (;

I heard he was going back to Feyenoord with Kuyt at the end of his contract, gunna miss him if he does go?

Cant tell if thats sarcasm or not but he is a enigma... he can delight you one day by scoring important goals or frustrate you with his selfish play. Would rather he left tbh
 
That was because he was forced to go through a gruelling fixture list with a very thin squad. Very harsh to judge him considering the circumstances in which he was brought in. Even then he has overachieved. A win vs Barcelona. A fantastic turn-around against Napoli. An FA Cup trophy.

Yes Emery is a better manager than Di Matteo no question about it but would he even want to come to Chelsea. Probably not. Would he be welcomed by the players... probably not. Unless we are willing to get rid of the senior players this summer, I'd say take the gamble on Di Matteo or if we are willing then enter Unai Emery etc.

AVB had roughly the same squad. still picked up more points per game. And that's with players not all pulling their weight. Cup runs dont mask the underlying issues. And the choice is between Emery and some of the older players, you pick Emery. It's no brainer. Or you can continue to be held back by unprofessional players, and yes, not welcoming a manager because he might bench because you're on the decline is unprofessional, if that is what they would do if Emery were to take charge. Because you wont find much better, for free.
 
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Yes Emery is a better manager than Di Matteo no question about it but would he even want to come to Chelsea. Probably not.

Why not? He's being forced out at Valencia because their fans are being muppets and is being replaced by Pellegrino. I don't see why he wouldn't move to Chelsea.

Would he be welcomed by the players... probably not.

That shouldn't be a problem. They're not five year olds, they're professional footballers, and in any profession you obey your boss. It's ridiculous and childish behaviour by the Chelsea 'old guard' if they throw their toys out of the pram just because they get a new boss.
 
Why not? He's being forced out at Valencia because their fans are being muppets and is being replaced by Pellegrino. I don't see why he wouldn't move to Chelsea.



That shouldn't be a problem. They're not five year olds, they're professional footballers, and in any profession you obey your boss. It's ridiculous and childish behaviour by the Chelsea 'old guard' if they throw their toys out of the pram just because they get a new boss.

Not many better managers out there for free.
 
That shouldn't be a problem. They're not five year olds, they're professional footballers, and in any profession you obey your boss. It's ridiculous and childish behaviour by the Chelsea 'old guard' if they throw their toys out of the pram just because they get a new boss.

hmm... Chelsea 'old guard' acting childish and getting a manager fired, I swear i have heard that before..
 
I think if we learn't anything tonight its that Ferreira, Romeu, Essien, Malouda, Sturridge and Torres should all not start in Munich.

Bit harsh on Torres, he had literally no supply at all.
 
Why not? He's being forced out at Valencia because their fans are being muppets and is being replaced by Pellegrino. I don't see why he wouldn't move to Chelsea.



That shouldn't be a problem. They're not five year olds, they're professional footballers, and in any profession you obey your boss. It's ridiculous and childish behaviour by the Chelsea 'old guard' if they throw their toys out of the pram just because they get a new boss.

Frankly speaking I am all for Unai Emery only if he is allowed to mould the squad as he wants in the summer, not after a season. The reason why I dont think he will move to Chelsea is because of how no manager has ever been given sufficient time at this club, he may be dissuaded by that

But otherwise Unai Emery is a very AVBish manager... great tactical mind, young, classy etc.
 
No offense to Bobby but he's got no experience at the top level of management and we have no idea how well he'd do with the one thing we need: rebuilding. Emery has had his best players nicked every season and he's still managed to come out swinging every time. The man clearly knows players, the man clearly knows tactics. And he's free...


Frankly speaking I am all for Unai Emery only if he is allowed to mould the squad as he wants in the summer, not after a season. The reason why I dont think he will move to Chelsea is because of how no manager has ever been given sufficient time at this club, he may be dissuaded by that

Where else is he going to go? If I go back to my earlier tier thing about managers, Emery is a firm tier 2 candidate: someone with success but something to prove at a bigger club. This is the guy that is protesting that he is a great manager, it's just impossible to compete in a domestic league with Barca and Madrid. That sounds like the sort of guy that would jump at the chance to show how good he is at a club that will give him the funds to do so. In my mind at least, there is 0 chance he will not rebuild our squad in the summer because it's obvious that it needs it. AVB was in the tricky position where no one was quite sure how much our old boys had left in their tanks, so he chose to give them some time to prove themselves. Now we know that they can rouse themselves for cup games but have no chance of keeping that level up over a season.
 
No offense to Bobby but he's got no experience at the top level of management and we have no idea how well he'd do with the one thing we need: rebuilding. Emery has had his best players nicked every season and he's still managed to come out swinging every time. The man clearly knows players, the man clearly knows tactics. And he's free...




Where else is he going to go? If I go back to my earlier tier thing about managers, Emery is a firm tier 2 candidate: someone with success but something to prove at a bigger club. This is the guy that is protesting that he is a great manager, it's just impossible to compete in a domestic league with Barca and Madrid. That sounds like the sort of guy that would jump at the chance to show how good he is at a club that will give him the funds to do so. In my mind at least, there is 0 chance he will not rebuild our squad in the summer because it's obvious that it needs it. AVB was in the tricky position where no one was quite sure how much our old boys had left in their tanks, so he chose to give them some time to prove themselves. Now we know that they can rouse themselves for cup games but have no chance of keeping that level up over a season.

I see your point mate. If Roman is prepared to give him financial backing in the summer then I would take him.
 
Carl this is exactly what i was saying a few weeks back and getting a bit shouted down, dont let the cups fool you. Its the same for us, neck and neck with City, but doesnt change the fact we need to deal with our midfield. Its also what that article was pointing. Yes you may still win the CL, but you are still overall ( and i do note that there are rising starts at the club) on the decline with some key players. He did most of what was asked in the short term, ow he has to demonstrate over the summer he has plans for the long term.

Saying all of this we have to realise this is not his squad so he has inherited a poor squad. Yes he has a poor record in the league but the Benfica 1st leg came just after the Spurs and City games so we all know which one was the more important. The Arsenal game was sandwiched between Barca ties, Newcastle game 3 days before the FA Cup Final and the Liverpool game 3 days after it. I think the main thing is that this squad is not good enough to compete on all fronts and the question we have to ask is that is Di Matteo man enough to move some of the older players on this summer.

Then the situation has to change.

What has he done? league wise, he has picked up less points per game than AVB. The only thing he has given is the cup runs.

So he has to demonstrate that he has more to him than the love of the players, if he does then keep him. If not, then get a better manager. And Emery is certainly a better manager than Di matteo.

But at least he has given us the cup run nah? If someone said to me at the start of the season you would finish 6th but win the FA Cup and Champions League i would have bitten your hand off. After all the goal this season was to start the transition (which never got going) but make sure you get Champs League football for next season.

hmm... Chelsea 'old guard' acting childish and getting a manager fired, I swear i have heard that before..

Yer you have, in the papers who as we know have such great journalism these days its mind blowing.
 
Let me put it this way. If Roman hired Emery, gave him a 3 year contract and said "here is £50m, plus whatever you raise from moving players on" I would be very worried as a United fan.
 
Let me put it this way. If Roman hired Emery, gave him a 3 year contract and said "here is £50m, plus whatever you raise from moving players on" I would be very worried as a United fan.

I don't doubt he could do a good job but with what Robbie has done most would say he deserves a crack at the job.
 
You cant really blame Di Matteo. The squad has undergone a punishing fixture list which has stretched us thin and yet we have pulled off some amazing results vs Liverpool/Barcelona despite both those teams have more rest than us. **** we were written off against Barcelona yet we produced a sterling performance

Plus its not like if we had won the game we would surely be in the top 4, we would still be relying on Everton and Fulham to pick points against Tottenham/Newcastle and considering the fact that both Everton and Fulham have nothing to play for, that would have been unlikely.

All eggs are now on the Munich game. Bayern will be the ones under pressure to win and hopefully we can use that to our advantage

Everton have a lot to play for, a win see's them finish above Liverpool and Jol is returning to White Hart Lane for the first time, I'm quite sure he'll want a win.
 
Seems like it's too late for Emery. He's agreed to go to Spartak Moscow in summer.
 
I don't doubt he could do a good job but with what Robbie has done most would say he deserves a crack at the job.

I'm not convinced. We've still done very poorly in the league, badly in almost all the big domestic games and we've only really been a cup side. You can credit that to him, but in all honesty I think that it has a lot more to do with the fact that the players have stopped sulking and started playing for what will probably be the last silverware of their Chelsea careers. In a perverse way, we're rather like Liverpool.

I'm not saying he hasn't done well, but even if we win the CL (big if) I'm not sure I would keep him. I thought the whole reason we got rid of AVB was because we couldn't afford to gamble away another season? Keeping Bobby is a big gamble, I'd actually saying a bigger gamble than AVB ever was.
 
Oh and although I'm pretty sure he hasn't signed on the dotted line yet, Emery did confirm yesterday or on Monday (memory like a sieve...) that he is off to Spartak. We still have a slim chance to nab him and it would have to be now. Instead I think we'll continue on with this ill advised pursuit of Guardiola who would have to be ******* mental to come to us.
 
I'm not convinced. We've still done very poorly in the league, badly in almost all the big domestic games and we've only really been a cup side. You can credit that to him, but in all honesty I think that it has a lot more to do with the fact that the players have stopped sulking and started playing for what will probably be the last silverware of their Chelsea careers.

I'd agree with that. It seems it's less to do with RDM than actually the players turning up and wanting to prove they "still have it". RDM played with a few of them, it's going to be doubly difficult to chuck them out.

I'm sure most rival fans want him to stay in the job, and perverely the best chance of that would be for him to win a CL, which would also give the club the CL football next season to attract players and a new coach of sufficient quality. It seems the conditions which would best attract a top quality coach are also the conditions where he'd stay in charge, and right now the question is rather "Who'd take the job?".

I can't see him being given a lot of money to spend over the summer as the "in between guy" though.
 
I'm not convinced. We've still done very poorly in the league, badly in almost all the big domestic games and we've only really been a cup side. You can credit that to him, but in all honesty I think that it has a lot more to do with the fact that the players have stopped sulking and started playing for what will probably be the last silverware of their Chelsea careers. In a perverse way, we're rather like Liverpool.

I'm not saying he hasn't done well, but even if we win the CL (big if) I'm not sure I would keep him. I thought the whole reason we got rid of AVB was because we couldn't afford to gamble away another season? Keeping Bobby is a big gamble, I'd actually saying a bigger gamble than AVB ever was.

I think its not just his fault, the squad we have is just not good enough and it isen't his squad. Tactically he has been decent and in the cup games he has picked the right squads. My only question would be if he is able to get rid of some of these players, if he can then give him 2-3 years.
 
I'd agree with that. It seems it's less to do with RDM than actually the players turning up and wanting to prove they "still have it". RDM played with a few of them, it's going to be doubly difficult to chuck them out.

I'm sure most rival fans want him to stay in the job, and perverely the best chance of that would be for him to win a CL, which would also give the club the CL football next season to attract players and a new coach of sufficient quality. It seems the conditions which would best attract a top quality coach are also the conditions where he'd stay in charge, and right now the question is rather "Who'd take the job?".

I can't see him being given a lot of money to spend over the summer as the "in between guy" though.

He would have played with JT and Lamps but not a lot at all but that is it and these are two who we should not sell. Like i say its whether he has realised certain players need to go i'd say Bosingwa, Malouda and Essien are a minimum.
 
Emery is a very good manager, but not for Chelsea, I can't see them being a side that would handle his tactics and approach to the game.
 
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