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I think Frank knows he can't be that box to box player anymore so limiting his game a bit like Scholes did can pro long his career. I think he could have 2 maybe even 3 more years left if he takes up that role, obviously playing less games as the seasons go on.

Your right but Lampard is nowhere near as good as Scholes in that sort of 'deep-lying' role. Yes he could do decently well there but we should be looking to fill what is arguably the most important position in our team with a world-class player rather than a decent player

Just look at the England-Belgium friendly. The quality of player in that role has a huge impact on the rest of the team and how they play
 
Also rumours that we are going to loan De Bruyne to Southampton next season. I am fine with any team as long as he gets games there

Would be a great deal for him as he would really give them some qualities they don't have.

Don't think Lampard has the required qualities to play that role.

Well then you didn't watch Chelsea from February onwards? He is a very intellegent man and proved a lot of doubters wrong playing in this role. Scholes used to be a box to box midfielder but realised he could not do this anymore so adapted his game, nothing says Lampard can't do the same thing.
 
Your right but Lampard is nowhere near as good as Scholes in that sort of 'deep-lying' role. Yes he could do decently well there but we should be looking to fill what is arguably the most important position in our team with a world-class player rather than a decent player

Just look at the England-Belgium friendly. The quality of player in that role has a huge impact on the rest of the team and how they play

I agree he is not as good as Scholes in that role but his passing range is still sensational, he can also tackle very well and reads the game very well too. There was an argument that he was our MOTM in the champs league final.
 
Would be a great deal for him as he would really give them some qualities they don't have.



Well then you didn't watch Chelsea from February onwards? He is a very intellegent man and proved a lot of doubters wrong playing in this role. Scholes used to be a box to box midfielder but realised he could not do this anymore so adapted his game, nothing says Lampard can't do the same thing.


He can do that role Carl, its just that Modric can do it far, far, far better and guess what, he is probably going to be on the move this summer. Why sacrifrice this necessary quality in the middle of the park just to prolong Lamps career for another few years. He can do a fine job covering for Modric on the bench
 
I agree he is not as good as Scholes in that role but his passing range is still sensational, he can also tackle very well and reads the game very well too. There was an argument that he was our MOTM in the champs league final.


You are exagerrating. His passing range is not sensational by any means. My point is that Modric is a huge upgrade on Lampard... Why not go and buy Modric instead of trying to prolong Lampard's career.
 
He can do that role Carl, its just that Modric can do it far, far, far better and guess what, he is probably going to be on the move this summer. Why sacrifrice this necessary quality in the middle of the park just to prolong Lamps career for another few years. He can do a fine job covering for Modric on the bench

Do we really want a 34 year old on 150k+ a week sitting on the bench which would force someone like McEachran off the bench and give him zero opportunites.
 
You are exagerrating. His passing range is not sensational by any means. My point is that Modric is a huge upgrade on Lampard... Why not go and buy Modric instead of trying to prolong Lampard's career.

Because it would save us 40+ million thats why. Lampards passing range is very good, much better than people make it out to be.
 
Because it would save us 40+ million thats why. Lampards passing range is very good, much better than people make it out to be.

40 million would be well worth it for a player of Modric's calibre. Regista's have long lives at the top so Modric could give us as much as 10 seasons of service. Just look at Scholes

Lampard can perform that role well to a certain extent but this is a position that if upgraded could make the entire team much much better
 
Why not bring in Modric and ship Lampard out to MLS or something? He's been a great servant for Chelsea and has won everything there is to win. Best option for Chelsea and possibly himself
 
40 million would be well worth it for a player of Modric's calibre. Regista's have long lives at the top so Modric could give us as much as 10 seasons of service. Just look at Scholes

Lampard can perform that role well to a certain extent but this is a position that if upgraded could make the entire team much much better

I just see more possitives to play Lampard in that role and give Josh 10-15 appearences next season instead of signing Modric which drops Lamps to the bench and gives Josh zero games. He has already lost 6 months of his development at Swansea (not their fault i must say) so to lose anymore would seriously damage his chaces of making any career at Chelsea.
 
Why not bring in Modric and ship Lampard out to MLS or something? He's been a great servant for Chelsea and has won everything there is to win. Best option for Chelsea and possibly himself

Because he still has a huge role to play, we have got rid of one leader in Drogba so to get rid of 2 in one window could hurt the team more than help it.
 
Because he still has a huge role to play, we have got rid of one leader in Drogba so to get rid of 2 in one window could hurt the team more than help it.
swapping Modric with Lampard hurts the team? disagree with that. You don't need multiple 'leaders' on the pitch, these are professional and experienced footballers, not school kids. You have Terry as your 'leader' and other players too. If Lampard goes your team doesn't fall apart. Modric could take you up to the next level
 
I just see more possitives to play Lampard in that role and give Josh 10-15 appearences next season instead of signing Modric which drops Lamps to the bench and gives Josh zero games. He has already lost 6 months of his development at Swansea (not their fault i must say) so to lose anymore would seriously damage his chaces of making any career at Chelsea.

Impractical to bring Josh into the fold at the moment. Only 19 so he has plenty of time left ahead of him. He needs to be specifically developed if he is to become a proper regista. If Lampard gets injured, just imagine we are rely on Josh to form the primary link between Midfield and Attack

At this point in his development, Josh needs as many PLM games a she can get. Makes more sense to loan him out. Bring Modric in with Lampard as cover. If either gets injured their is a capable fellow to cover for him.

After about 3-4 years or however long it takes for Josh to be ready, ship Lampard out. Rotate Josh with Modric for a few more years before making the spot permanently McEachrans. Makes more sense that way. We will get 7-8 years of quality playmaking from Modric all the while developing the next player suited for that role whilst having a adequate, experienced man covering.
 
swapping Modric with Lampard hurts the team? disagree with that. You don't need multiple 'leaders' on the pitch, these are professional and experienced footballers, not school kids. You have Terry as your 'leader' and other players too. If Lampard goes your team doesn't fall apart. Modric could take you up to the next level

Agree with this. As much excitement the Hazard and potentially Hulk transfer will generate, our most important transfer if it happens will definitely be Modric
 
swapping Modric with Lampard hurts the team? disagree with that. You don't need multiple 'leaders' on the pitch, these are professional and experienced footballers, not school kids. You have Terry as your 'leader' and other players too. If Lampard goes your team doesn't fall apart. Modric could take you up to the next level

Teams need older expirienced player, Utd have Giggs and Scholes for instance.

Impractical to bring Josh into the fold at the moment. Only 19 so he has plenty of time left ahead of him. He needs to be specifically developed if he is to become a proper regista. If Lampard gets injured, just imagine we are rely on Josh to form the primary link between Midfield and Attack

At this point in his development, Josh needs as many PLM games a she can get. Makes more sense to loan him out. Bring Modric in with Lampard as cover. If either gets injured their is a capable fellow to cover for him.

After about 3-4 years or however long it takes for Josh to be ready, ship Lampard out. Rotate Josh with Modric for a few more years before making the spot permanently McEachrans. Makes more sense that way. We will get 7-8 years of quality playmaking from Modric all the while developing the next player suited for that role whilst having a adequate, experienced man covering.

Agree with this. As much excitement the Hazard and potentially Hulk transfer will generate, our most important transfer if it happens will definitely be Modric

Im not saying he would be quality for us or even that i wouldn't want him if he signed for us. The only way i would he happy is if Josh got a loan deal to a side which will actually use him. Other wise we will lose him and that would be criminal.
 
Teams need older expirienced player, Utd have Giggs and Scholes for instance.





Im not saying he would be quality for us or even that i wouldn't want him if he signed for us. The only way i would he happy is if Josh got a loan deal to a side which will actually use him. Other wise we will lose him and that would be criminal.

Josh will probably be loaned out again and I expect the club will be more careful as to who they loan him out too depending on the playing time he will receive. I have a feeling that Swansea loan was much too rushed which is the way things usually are in January
 
Josh will probably be loaned out again and I expect the club will be more careful as to who they loan him out too depending on the playing time he will receive. I have a feeling that Swansea loan was much too rushed which is the way things usually are in January

Looking at it at the time we all thought what a great deal as he suits the way they play. But they were playing so well why would Rodgers replace any of his lads with Josh? At the time he was linked with Bolton and he probably would have got more time there. Saying that he probably would have played more under Di Matteo than he did at Swansea.
 
Looking at it at the time we all thought what a great deal as he suits the way they play. But they were playing so well why would Rodgers replace any of his lads with Josh? At the time he was linked with Bolton and he probably would have got more time there. Saying that he probably would have played more under Di Matteo than he did at Swansea.

You might be right although I just think it suicidal to bring Josh into the fold so early. Not sure about Bolton, Kakuta did not get much game time there.

And yes as for Kakuta, he too should be loaned next season although future not looking bright for him. Flopped at Bolton for whatever reason and did not do much for Djion either. Him along with PVA have been massively disappointing this season. Especially when you compare them to the progress made by players such as Kalas, Bruma, Piazon, Bertrand etc.
 

Where the **** would Muller fit for Chelsea? His best position is behind the striker like Mata/Hazard, on the flanks he is far, far less effective and is no where near as accomplished there, so Hulk would be a better signing due to him being much more suited to the right flank rotating option with Ramires. Muller at Chelsea would be competing with Mata for that no.10 position, you don't need him.
 
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