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Yea that should be fine and if Torres continues to play badly then we can always go for a emergency signing in January. Torres has to step up this season. No more chances. No more excuses. We have made him our undisputed main striker and have shown massive confidence in him by letting Drogba go and not buying a replacement yet. He needs to repay that faith

I agree, this side is now being build around Fernando Torres and he is now our main player with Drogba gone. In terms of chances this season is his last for that. Like you say letting Drogba go and not signing a replacement must say something to Torres and should give him all the confidence he could need. I have always backed him and always will back him but this is last chance saloon.
 
I agree, this side is now being build around Fernando Torres and he is now our main player with Drogba gone. In terms of chances this season is his last for that. Like you say letting Drogba go and not signing a replacement must say something to Torres and should give him all the confidence he could need. I have always backed him and always will back him but this is last chance saloon.

Agree with yo. With the players we have brought in (Hazard, Marin) and the players we have/ are letting go
(Kalou, Bosingwa, Drogba).. Its pretty obvious our style of play will change massively and we will take a more proactive approach next season under RDM. So things like Chelsea's tactics dont suit you and all will not stand as valid excuses anymore

Again like you said the team is being built around Torres now. Should have happened last summer but at that time I do not think AVB had much confidence in Torres and Drogba was still around.
 
Metro reporting that Chelsea aim to have a deal in place for a new RB by the end of the week. Its been pretty obvious we need to introduce some fresh blood into that position. I wonder who RDM is aiming for
 
He turned you down cos "He doubt RDM would understand him", told you manager would have an influence on transfers.

Wenger has a much bigger reputation than RDM, therefore players respect him/want to play under him more more often than not.

An actual quote by Giroud - "Chelsea is very nice, it is a great club, but I am not convinced Di Matteo knows who I am."

If anything it's the other way around!!! Its simple, he joined Arsenal because he is French and he said as much.
 
Metro reporting that Chelsea aim to have a deal in place for a new RB by the end of the week. Its been pretty obvious we need to introduce some fresh blood into that position. I wonder who RDM is aiming for

Although i don't usually listen to the Metro as i think to myself how good can a free paper actually be i know we need a RB. Who we hoping for, Debuchy? Simpson? Azpilicueta? Or someone else.
 
Although i don't usually listen to the Metro as i think to myself how good can a free paper actually be i know we need a RB. Who we hoping for, Debuchy? Simpson? Azpilicueta? Or someone else.
Azplicueta or Piszczek for me. Dont like VDW, Maicon too old, not a fan of Simpson. Lets not forget it has to be a player that would be willing to be a back up to Brana. Debuchy is an option too, but dont see it happening.
 
Also confirmed thibout courtious will have a second season at athletico, nothing surprising but thought I'd just write it
 
Although i don't usually listen to the Metro as i think to myself how good can a free paper actually be i know we need a RB. Who we hoping for, Debuchy? Simpson? Azpilicueta? Or someone else.

Azpilicueta for me. He is a converted left winger so he will provide plenty of attacking thrust from the position. Very competent defensively. Young. Will be availiable on the cheap. Will not mind playing behind Ivanovic
 
I would not say Luiz is a better reader of the game. One of the main reasons AVB went for Cahill is because he suits a high defensive line because he can read the game very well as evidenced by the number of interceptions he made for Bolton.

What? David Luiz interceptions: 56, Cahill: 53. Cahill played more games...
Cahill is a good all-round defender for me. Terry/Luiz are exceptional in certain attributes but poor in others while Cahill is decent at just about everything

Disagree.

Mostly agree with this although I feel Cahill and Luiz will be rotated a lot depending on the opposition as well as due to the high number of games we are playing next season. Can see Hutchinson starting Carling Cup games and getting the odd few apps in the PLM

Yes, quite possibly, but Luiz - Terry will be first choice, and Cahill when they're tired, got a knock, etc.
Agree that Chalobah and Ake should just be limited to substitute appearances in the Carling Cup. Not sure if Chalobah's best position is CB anyways tbh... Think he will do better as a energetic shuttler in a double pivot


Chalobah will be a CB. That's where he's best, and I'm 90% sure that's where he'll play for the majority of his career. He plays DM a lot because he's so more mature than others at his age, he can control the game, and keep the whole team calm. When he's in DM, everyone feels safer.
Think Cahill will continue his run of good performances hopefully. Even if he does not then I still do not think their is much point in shopping for a new CB. We have a dearth of talent in that area and it would be criminal to block the paths of the likes of Kalas and Bruma who are doing well on loan

Agree.

We will probably go towards a 4-2-3-1 next season changing to a 4-3-3 if necessary. Cant see the 4-2-3-1 being our primary formation next season. Agree with you on Hulk. If Porto continue to play hardball might as well leave it there. Plently of other options in the market- Cheaper viable alternatives like Moses and Jovetic

Last year I was all in favour of a move to 4-2-3-1 because I felt it was right at the time. But, if it means Rami out wide right, I'd probably prefer 4-3-2-1, but if we have the right players for 4-2-3-1, then I'm not bothered which we play.
Plus I disgaree with you on Debuchy. He will be decently cheap for his level of talent but we really need some young blood in that position. I do not think Todd Kane will make it at this level tbh. Someone like Azpilicueta who does not mind playing a back-up role to Ivanovic would be perfect. I rate Azpiliceuta highly. He will give us that attacking thrust from the position we lack after Bosingwa left

Debuchy is a very good, reliable right back. If we got him, I would have no worries at all. But, Azpi is somebody who I'd prefer, but it's not clear how much he'd cost and whether we're still interested (was an AVB target). Disagree that Azpi would be happy to play a backup role. Why should he? He's not far off the best RBs in the world and should have been Spain's starting right back at the Euros. I think he would be happy enough rotating, but he won't want to play second fiddle. I'm not sure with Todd, because before I said he was overrated and that people thought he was good because he'd scored some screamers, but now I actually think he could make it. I've watched him many times now, and he's always a stand-out player. Deserves a chance to prove himself on loan soon (maybe not this season, but next) and then if he proves himself the odd game or two to see if he's up to it. Don't think we necessarily need "young blood" at RB, and Debuchy isn't old at all (I think people are now thinking you only have to buy 20-25 year-olds – myself included sometimes – but it's not true). Plus, if you want young blood at right back, Hutch can provide that. However, I do agree, Azpilicueta is the best option for right back, Debuchy more realistic though.

As for the CM position. I will take Modric any day. Modric playing with Lampard providing cover. Josh getting some games on loan. When Lamps decides to move on in 1-2 seasons then get Josh back and having him playing cover to Modric learning from the best regista in the PLM after Scholes.

I would easily pay 40m for Modric. Only 26 and regista's have long careers so he can give us 10 years of service maybe? Not to mention how much he will improve our team

Hmm...I'd like to see Josh with us next season, but if somebody can pretty much guarantee him PL starts, then I would very happily see him go on loan. Reading an option maybe? However, I don't want to see him on loan for 2 years, I think Lamps should get 1 more season (I'd even be happy to see him leave England now) and then Josh can take his position. I'd be happy with Modrić (for me the best regista in the PL, not Scholes). As I've said before, I'd be happy to see Moutinho, Cabaye, etc. instead, or a chance given to Josh.

I love English football. I have friends who play for Chelsea,Liverpool, and Manchester United. At the moment I have a real taste for playing in the UK, being in London with one month to go before the Olympics.

My priority is to finish my contract in Milan.

I have a lot to thank them for and my focus is to continue doing what I do, to bring joy to the fans in Milan and continue my contract until 2014. And then afterwards, who knows?

I talk to David Luiz and I didn't really believe Chelsea would win it. But they have a tight group and they succeeded in doing what the greats want to do and win.


Alexandre Pato

Been linked with us forever. Although I think he had a poor season so his value may be the lowest it has ever been. Anyone wanting to take a chance on him?


As somebody's mentioned, still worth a lot as PSG proved in January. His injuries would worry me so much though.

Metro reporting that we have turned our sights to Schurrle after being warned off Moses. Would you take Schurrle?

I am interested in knowing whether Schurrle is someone who tends to drift from the wing into the centre to act as a #10 or whether he is a more classical winger running at defenders with speed and getting to the byline or moving in to take a shot

Because its the latter type of player we need.. Someone who can provide width and add another dimension to our attack. Because we already have Juan Mata who is one of the finest #10s in the world and Hazard who can play well there too

Schürrle is a very good player. In FM terms, he's certainly an 'inside forward'. Loves to cut in and shoot, as GC said.
 
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Saying Azpilicueta is one of the best RBs in the world is taking slightly too fair Chris... Exceptionally talented player and will start to peak as Ivanovic starts to decline which is a good situation all round. Todd Kane is a talented player but whether he can make it is another issue. Providing him with some competition and having two talented youngsters vie for the RB spot can bring out the best in both of them

Not sure why you have a problem with Ramires out wide Chris... Work-rate, stamina, pace, defensive awareness and great finishing make him possibly one of a kind winger. Not to mention his crossing and passing is fairly good. Would certainly be more effective in a 'free' role in the CM of a 4-3-3 as he was under AVB but he has proven himself to be very good on the wing
 
Saying Azpilicueta is one of the best RBs in the world is taking slightly too fair Chris... Exceptionally talented player and will start to peak as Ivanovic starts to decline which is a good situation all round. Todd Kane is a talented player but whether he can make it is another issue. Providing him with some competition and having two talented youngsters vie for the RB spot can bring out the best in both of them

Not sure why you have a problem with Ramires out wide Chris... Work-rate, stamina, pace, defensive awareness and great finishing make him possibly one of a kind winger. Not to mention his crossing and passing is fairly good. Would certainly be more effective in a 'free' role in the CM of a 4-3-3 as he was under AVB but he has proven himself to be very good on the wing


Yes, sometimes I type without thinking, Changed it pretty much straight away ;) Agreed on Todd.

I don't have a problem with him as RW, but for me, he's a lot more effective CM. Other than Yaya Touré, is there a better box-to-box CM? I don't think so, not off the top of my head, anyway. From CM he provides lethal, driving runs forward and if we had a regista and Mikel alongside him, he will be able to get up and down as much as he likes.

Also, forgot to put in tha previous post; Jovetić seems quite likely now. Does make sense as he can play RW, LW, CAM, second striker, or striker, so whether we go with 4-3-2-1/4-3-3/4-2-3-1 he will be able to fit in. Would make Sturridge leaving more likely, but Lukaku going out on loan, and Studge and Jovetić's versatility, they could both get games. Still for me, Studge is best as a RW though, but he needs to become less selfish.
 
ANOTHER thing I forgot to post: there has been much debate over who will play in "the hole" (if we play a formation with a CAM, that is), whether it will be Mata or Hazard. People have said that Mata prefers CAM, which he's never said AFAIK, and every time I've seen him asked where he prefers to play, he says he doesn't care whether it's LW/RW/CAM, well on a video on Chelsea's YT channel, he says "Juan Mata; left winger". I've always thought Hazard is the one that's most likely to play CAM, and this reiterates that thought.

The video, in case you're interested: Chelsea FC - US Tour 2012: Essien and Mata - YouTube
 
Not fussed about sturridge, but looking forward to McEachran

Sturridge will have a lot to prove so it could be a good thing.

I'm more puzzled about the Moses one lol, yes i know he represented England as a youth level but he has had caps for Nigeria!
 
Yes, sometimes I type without thinking, Changed it pretty much straight away ;) Agreed on Todd.

I don't have a problem with him as RW, but for me, he's a lot more effective CM. Other than Yaya Touré, is there a better box-to-box CM? I don't think so, not off the top of my head, anyway. From CM he provides lethal, driving runs forward and if we had a regista and Mikel alongside him, he will be able to get up and down as much as he likes.

Also, forgot to put in tha previous post; Jovetić seems quite likely now. Does make sense as he can play RW, LW, CAM, second striker, or striker, so whether we go with 4-3-2-1/4-3-3/4-2-3-1 he will be able to fit in. Would make Sturridge leaving more likely, but Lukaku going out on loan, and Studge and Jovetić's versatility, they could both get games. Still for me, Studge is best as a RW though, but he needs to become less selfish.

To be fair their is no point in reverting to a 4-2-3-1 to suit one player because our squad is well suited to a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3... Ramires can do a terrific job on the wing in a 4-2-3-1 and also do a fantastic job in a CM role in a 4-3-3. Not to mention he can also act as a energetic shuttler in a double pivot alongside Mikel/Romeu if needed.

On Jovetic.. All the minor publications have gone with us making a 25m bid. I dont know how likely his transfer is. I metioned before that with the versatilty Marin, Hazard, Mata, Jovetic, Sturridge offer us there are a lot of options we can play around with so I do not think anyone will have problems getting games.

If its just a rumour then I will say its well-thought out one by the newspapers for a change


ANOTHER thing I forgot to post: there has been much debate over who will play in "the hole" (if we play a formation with a CAM, that is), whether it will be Mata or Hazard. People have said that Mata prefers CAM, which he's never said AFAIK, and every time I've seen him asked where he prefers to play, he says he doesn't care whether it's LW/RW/CAM, well on a video on Chelsea's YT channel, he says "Juan Mata; left winger". I've always thought Hazard is the one that's most likely to play CAM, and this reiterates that thought.

The video, in case you're interested: Chelsea FC - US Tour 2012: Essien and Mata - YouTube

Mata never said he prefers to play in the hole. But its obvious that its his best position. He was better there for Chelsea than Silva was for Man City inb my opinion. Getting Hazard and Marin remove some of that creative burden from his shoulders making him even more effective

Also last season you could see how much we needed a regisgta. Mata was continually forced to drop deep to allow us to transition from defence to attack because our CMs were incapable of doing so. This took Mata away from the areas where he was most effective ... If we get Modric then this will truly lift Mata's game to another level as he will not be forced to drop deep anymore

Also Hazard said CAM is his favourite position. But realistically he was never going to be able to play the #10 role at any of the Manchester Clubs or Chelsea. Man Utd have Rooney, Man City have Silva and we have Mata. And Mike. said that he actually has only played 10 games there for Lille. Hazards best position is on the left... Can destroy a full-back inside or outside and in any case we need that creativity from the wings which we have missed since the Duff/Robben days
 
Sturridge will have a lot to prove so it could be a good thing.

I'm more puzzled about the Moses one lol, yes i know he represented England as a youth level but he has had caps for Nigeria!

Hopefully getting dropped by RDM and England made him take a good, hard long look at his game
 
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