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Alcaraz said:
to be fair its not like Schurrle will be on a cheap contract, Neither will Modric. But in my opinion Schurrle is a better player than Sturridge and Modric fills a huge need ... enough to deserve good contracts
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Modric deserves Lampard's wages, especially if Lampard leaves.
 
Alcaraz said:
You do know that even if we treble Modric's wages it will be lesser than Lampards? Haha
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Indeed. But still, Modric will be one of our most valuable players, so trebling his wages should be a no brainer.
 
Feroze Ali's new compilation video, enjoy.
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For anyone who has any questions about the John Terry court case which starts tomorrow.

John Terry will stand trial next week. A simple guide to the accusation he faces and the procedures ahead.

John Terry is charged with what is often referred to as 'a racially aggravated public order offence'. This is a criminal charge, which will be tried in Westminster Magistrates Court before a District Judge - formerly known as a Stipendiary Magistrate. There will be no jury. He has entered a 'not guilty' plea.

The full charge is: 'On 23 October 2011 at Loftus Road Stadium, London W12, you used threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress which was racially aggravated in accordance with section 28 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998. Contrary to section 31 (1) (c) of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998.'

In English criminal cases the police investigate and pass a file to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) - who then decide if it is worth bringing a prosecution. Next week, a CPS lawyer will first try to use that evidence to convince the District Judge an offence has been committed. John Terry, as defendant, will be represented by his own lawyer: who will then put forward a case that he is not guilty. Both sides can call witnesses to give evidence about what they saw or heard, or about other matters the District Judge agrees to be relevant. The trial is listed for five days.

The whole trial will be held in public, because the English legal system says 'justice must be seen to be done'. Press and public may attend, though space in court is extremely limited, and interest is expected to be great. Media will be allowed to report on the case as it progresses. TV cameras or recording devices are not permitted inside English criminal courts.

At the end of the trial, the District Judge will announce whether John Terry is guilty or not guilty under English law. The maximum fine for a charge of this type is £2,500. There can be no prison sentence. If John Terry is unhappy with the verdict, he may seek an appeal. The prosecution cannot appeal.

The court cannot ban John Terry from playing football; but the footballing authorities are likely to issue their own findings after the trial - which may, or may not include a fine or ban (largely dependent on the outcome of the criminal case). The case should not be confused with any other case: such as that of Liverpool's Luis Suarez, which was never the subject of a criminal prosecution.
 
Now that its pretty much confirmed we have a Schurrle bid rejected of an offer in excess of 20m according to Bayern Leverkusen, do you think we will go back for him?

This pretty much confirms one thing though, we are definitely looking to add one more quality winger/attacking player this window
 
Alcaraz said:
Now that its pretty much confirmed we have a Schurrle bid rejected of an offer in excess of 20m according to Bayern Leverkusen, do you think we will go back for him?

This pretty much confirms one thing though, we are definitely looking to add one more quality winger/attacking player this window
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20m, assume you are talking in Euros? Spells the end of DS as a first teamer, and means Ramires will rotate between AMR and MC, I doubt you will now buy a centre mid.
 
Mike. said:
20m, assume you are talking in Euros? Spells the end of DS as a first teamer, and means Ramires will rotate between AMR and MC, I doubt you will now buy a centre mid.
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Yep it was in Euro's... To be fair Sturridge was over as a first-teamer the day we bought Hazard. I thought up some options on what RDM can do ...

One option is to sell Sturridge:

We have Mata, Hazard, Marin, New RW/LW, Ramires as options for the attacking band of 3 and all of them should get sufficient games in those positions. We can still buy a CM

Another option is to loan Lukaku and keep Sturridge as back-up for the CF role:

Which I am leaning more towards. Try out Sturridge in the role he desires and still get a new LW/RW in. In the meantime, Lukaku gets regular games at a EPL club. Buy a CM

Last Option is to abandon our chase for a new attacking player and just buy a new CM:

Which is also possible.


More will become clearer after the US tour where the likes of Lukaku will be assessed to decide whether to farm them out on loan or keep them at the club. Still I feel it will be a mistake to not buy a regista going into the new season.

Modric+Schurrle+New RB subsidized by the sales of Sturridge, Malouda, Benayoun and Essien would be great business. A man can dream though!
 
Seems Ferdinand made references to Terry playing about with other people's missues as the first altercation

for which Ferdinand then says terry called him a 'Black ****'

Terry remains defiant he said ' i never called you a black ****' sarcastically, he said ' blind **** '


Interesting to see what comes of this...
 
LFCMarshall said:
Seems Ferdinand made references to Terry playing about with other people's missues as the first altercation

for which Ferdinand then says terry called him a 'Black ****'

Terry remains defiant he said ' i never called you a black ****' sarcastically, he said ' blind **** '


Interesting to see what comes of this...
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mhmm... For my money Terry probably made a racist remark in the heat of the moment but the court of law does not work on assumptions. Has to be conclusive evidence... Hope Terry gets a ban if he is found guilty and a hefty fine at that
 
Alcaraz said:
mhmm... For my money Terry probably made a racist remark in the heat of the moment but the court of law does not work on assumptions. Has to be conclusive evidence... Hope Terry gets a ban if he is found guilty and a hefty fine at that
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I personally think he will get charged.. video evidence simply shows him using a racist remark, it doesnt show the bit in question after, where he is clearing it up by saying the blind bit

although Ferdinand should not have said that in the first place, quite simply you make a remark like that you've got to expect something is coming back, not that i agree with it.. both both players seemed to have a little dig..

Overall, IF found guilty he should have the same fine and ban as Suarez did, would only be fair
 
LFCMarshall said:
I personally think he will get charged.. video evidence simply shows him using a racist remark, it doesnt show the bit in question after, where he is clearing it up by saying the blind bit

although Ferdinand should not have said that in the first place, quite simply you make a remark like that you've got to expect something is coming back, not that i agree with it.. both both players seemed to have a little dig..

Overall, IF found guilty he should have the same fine and ban as Suarez did, would only be fair
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Still simply saying 'black ****' is inconclusive unless the court is convinced beyond doubt that it was in an improper and racist context

Ferdinand will simply get off with nothing. Rather hilarious that he makes a dig at Terry and then kicks up a big fuss that Terry retaliates and plays the victim

Still Terry was at fault and should get banned/fined
 
Alcaraz said:
Still simply saying 'black ****' is inconclusive unless the court is convinced beyond doubt that it was in an improper and racist context

Ferdinand will simply get off with nothing. Rather hilarious that he makes a dig at Terry and then kicks up a big fuss that Terry retaliates and plays the victim

Still Terry was at fault and should get banned/fined
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I agree, although Racism is seen as being more serious than what Ferdinand did... again any form of abuse should be the same imo, but its not
 
Alcaraz said:
Still simply saying 'black ****' is inconclusive unless the court is convinced beyond doubt that it was in an improper and racist context

Ferdinand will simply get off with nothing. Rather hilarious that he makes a dig at Terry and then kicks up a big fuss that Terry retaliates and plays the victim

Still Terry was at fault and should get banned/fined
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You know he didnt kick up a fuss right? He didnt report it. A member of the public did, thats why it has gone to trial.
 
LFCMarshall said:
I personally think he will get charged.. video evidence simply shows him using a racist remark, it doesnt show the bit in question after, where he is clearing it up by saying the blind bit

although Ferdinand should not have said that in the first place, quite simply you make a remark like that you've got to expect something is coming back, not that i agree with it.. both both players seemed to have a little dig..

Overall, IF found guilty he should have the same fine and ban as Suarez did, would only be fair
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He will get a much worse punishment than Suarez for sure. This has gone to court so yes he can only be fined £2,500 which is nothing but the FA will then dish out punishments too. If found guilty i expect him to never be allowed to play for England again and get a substantial games ban.
 
CJACKO11 said:
He will get a much worse punishment than Suarez for sure. This has gone to court so yes he can only be fined £2,500 which is nothing but the FA will then dish out punishments too. If found guilty i expect him to never be allowed to play for England again and get a substantial games ban.
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Personally think 8 games and 40k fine will be enough...although it may be more
 
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