Well he is comfortable in a #10 position thus he should be back-up to Mata who I assume will retain that position.Marin to cover for Hazard on the left. Sturridge to cover for Ramires and Torres.
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Well he is comfortable in a #10 position thus he should be back-up to Mata who I assume will retain that position.Marin to cover for Hazard on the left. Sturridge to cover for Ramires and Torres.
Fair to say that Hazard is a better play right now, if you are resting Mata, get him through the middle. Playing him on the right, eases him in far more than playing through the centre.
Malouda definitely on his way out. Santos Manager confirmed he has been offered to them and I presume to 1-2 other clubs in Brazil. Would need to accept a pay-cut though if he wants to go to Brazil. Makes more sense for him to go to the Middle East/MLS/China and enjoy life
Possibly although we already have Sturridge/Ramires on the right and those two cant play anywhere else across the band of 3 I think. Lets see what happens I guess
Also Mata needs a rest. Went to Euro's and now going to play Olympics after playing 47+ games for Chelsea last season. Real danger of him breaking down and getting a long-term injury.
DS can play left and right, although he thinks he's striker oO)
Am I the only one who thinks Oscar does not have the passing range to become an effective 'Regista', playing short and moving quickly is all good, but you really need a great passing range to be fully effective there.
Just something on Hulk as we have been liked within for a while but AVB went and met with Hulk and rumours now Spurs are trying to sign him aswell. May have only met him due to them being friends from AVBs Porto days but surely AVB would want to add Hulk to his spurss squad.
Ramires will not play in the midfield 2, this is the reason he does not get into the Brazil squad. He does not have the tackling ability or passing range to play either role. The reason we can afford to play him there is because he will be rotating with Lampard for a year or two to learn his trade in the premier league.
It's at option he has, i don't see it like that at all. We are still interested in another winger so why would we sign two who could play there? Oscar i assume will rotate with Lampard for that spot along side Mikel. He has all the tools to play there already so adapting to play there should not be much of a problem.
He is Brazilian he has bags of technical ability born into him. Seriously though why does it have to be just a 30 year olds job to do it, is Modric 30?? He will play like Johnathan Wilson said which i posted quite a few pages back, a new type of regista.
That again depends on how you indend to play. If he wants to get involved in attacks himself then playing a short pass and then moving forward to then recieve the ball to play another pass higher up the pitch means he does not need to play long balls all the time.
Really? To me he's the perfect midfield shuttler. It's a role that's not especially in fashion at the moment but still a perfectly valid and effective one.
Because you need a ****** good footballing brain, very refined skills and incredible composure. The reason Pirlo, Alonso etc are hailed as being the best is because they are simply impossible to faze. Pressure them and they just turn, ball glued to their feet and redistribute without so much as a second glance at you. That requires a pretty exceptional maturity and it's pretty fair to say that a 20 yr old going from Brazil into a league which is traditionally very hard to adapt to, will most likely lack that. There's no denying he has the skills, but can he consistently find a friendly shirt 20 meters away when he's been closed down? Moreover, can he not just find that friendly shirt but also create a chance for him? Look at the greatest registas of our time and notice they all have 1 common attribute: they look relaxed and self assured in even the most pressing of circumstances.
That's why it's traditionally an older man's job; the maturity required to do all those things is very, very rare in one so young, and Oscar's nationality- combined with the intense pressure of his fee and the club's stature- make it unlikely that he will be able to really perform the role for a few years. If you look at the next youngest regista worth noting, which is Sahin, he is at least 24 and was proven in a side under incredible pressure before Madrid signed him. Hopefully he will get there but it's still a risky move
Well... wait, hang on, this makes no sense. Why spend £25 million on someone who isn't going to play as a regista, and instead on the wing, where you have oodles of talent? That solves none of your problems regarding ball retention, fluidity and breaking sides down. Ramires is a wonderfully energetic player, but he can't be expected to retain possession and spread play with the kind of regularity a proper regista can.
Adapting there is difficult, especially when coming to an entire different league. He has never has to play with the positioning required.
He isnt a new type of regista, fantasista isn't new term, Deco and Iniesta are two examples, Modric can fufill both, and is more of the latter for Croatia.
He still has to learn that positioning, something that took Modric two and a bit seasons to learn himself, so expect him to do in a season is very optimistic.
Technical ability =/= playing that role. If anything the key to the role is more mental than technical. Reading the play, the positioning, anticipating the run of your players, all of this and more is vital. It doesnt matter how technically gifted you are if you havent got that, that is why these players start to be at their best 26-27, because they have the experience and knowledge of hundreds of games and years in football
I agree, which is why I'm bemused by this signing. I was saying that if we do get him, I'd rather see us play a fluid band of 3 with Hazard, Mata and Oscar, so that Ramires can keep the midfield tight, offer problems with his runs from deep and keep the creative players supplied with his energy. Playing Oscar as a regista and keeping Ramires wide seems both massively risky and, as you pointed out, defensively suspect.
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Agreed, but if this is indeed the case, the transfer is bonkers.
Any more bonkers than United supposedly trying to get Moura and Kagawa but no CM or left back? XD
Who says he has a year to learn it properly in?? People are just assuming because of his age he will not be able to play the role which is ludacris. I am a big lad but still can play sunday league football because i can read the game much better than most of the people i know who are all older than me so it's a mute point. No-one knows how quickly he can adapt and how easy he may climatise to the premier league. It only took Ramires 6 months and someone of his slight build was built up to fail in this league. Then we had this with Cahill in January, many mocking his lack of pace and laughting at the possibility of him and JT together and stating he was a major factor in Bolton's league position. Must admit he proved every doubter wrong, the fact of the matter is we are all guessing what will happen. None of us know what will happen, he may revel in his transition and be a fully fledged regista within 6 months or it may take him 2 years. Either way he and Chelsea have time on their hands so it is no problem.
Listening to Tim Vickery who knows the lad a lot more than we all do says he can play this deeper role and has done successfully in the past. Inter and Brazil moved him further up the field but to say he cannot do that role is wrong. Ramires is best coming from deep but the midfield 2 in a 4-2-3-1 will not do that so you lose what is good about him. Look at his best goals last season, Spurs in the cup coming from the right, Liverpool cup final on the right, barca away from the right. In a 4-2-3-1 which Brazil play and Chelsea are expected to play the only position that suits Ramires is wide right.
Nothing to with age, but his total and utter lack of experience in the role. Which i pointed out. Cahill still has a lack of pace, Chelsea just covered that by playing an incredibly deep line. You seem to expect him to waltz into a position that usually takes some time to understand...
Even when Bale beat him in a one on one and he got back to make the challenge? Even when Adebayor got through one on one, beat Cech but Cahill caught up and made a last ditch challenge. Chelsea didn't always play a deep line under Di Matteo, only when we were getting out played on ball retension (sp). How do we know that the lad has not played this role most of his life but has only just been moved forward more recently?
You largely played a very deep line, which is what accounted for it. Even when you were attacking, it was deeper, with more direct passes.
Because doing a bit of research shows he has spent most of his senior time as an advanced player. Where he played as an academy player doesnt really come into it. Again very optimistic to assume he will waltz and be a natural at a role he hasnt been playing.
Ha, no. Paul Lambert's the only guy in the entire Prem trying to strengthen weak areas of his team, it seems. I am okay with this.
