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It will be a project, and projects take time. And I dont think he will go if he feels he wont get that time.

Have you read the Guardiola book that came out a few weeks ago? Very interesting read and usually I am not much for reading but I was engaged in that.
 
Chelsea were 2 weeks from administration when he bought them. He's overseen the most successful decade in their history, they do owe a lot of success to him.

No doubt. But it doesn't make him immune to criticism when he handles things terribly, which he is doing now and not for the first time.
 
Well Roman values Pep a lot and has done everything to try and get him to Chelsea. It goes without saying that Pep will be afforded much more time than any other previous manager. Also with Cole/Lampard gone by the summer, No worries about a internal revolt ;)

Ballague said that the question Pep will ask before choosing a club is... Show me a team that can be taken to the top rather than how much money will I earn. With respect to that, Chelsea and Bayern will be perfect fits for him.
 
Well Roman values Pep a lot and has done everything to try and get him to Chelsea. It goes without saying that Pep will be afforded much more time than any other previous manager. Also with Cole/Lampard gone by the summer, No worries about a internal revolt ;)

Ballague said that the question Pep will ask before choosing a club is... Show me a team that can be taken to the top rather than how much money will I earn. With respect to that, Chelsea and Bayern will be perfect fits for him.

I am sure AVB has something to say about this...
 
Also Rafa has been appointed on an 'interim' basis... So unless he delivers the CL or EPl he knows as well as anyone that he is gone next summer and he has accepted that by signing this contract.
 
Seriously? Roman actually gave AVB much more time than he had to previous managers. Ultimately AVB's sacking proved to be good for Chelsea...

Much more time? Only Scolari had less games in charge.

(except Hiddink, but that doesn't count in this case)
 
It goes without saying that Pep will be afforded much more time than any other previous manager.
Oh really? And what about if things go wrong and he's not the god we think he is? What if he goes through a tough patch, will he be given time to turn things around? All evidence so far says no. RDM had something like 2 wins in 7, and after what he achieved he wasn't even given time to turn results around (and you were still in the top 4). Whether RDM was a good enough manager or not isn't the point, because Abramovich has done the same with every previous manager barring Mourinho.

It won't just be like a fairytale if you get Pep in; so when results aren't going your way, Abramovich will sack him like the rest, because he is a clown that doesn't have a clue about football.

The fact that Chelsea fans say he is a 'club legend' and can't really criticize him is why other fans laugh at your club. He doesn't give a **** about the fans etc, this is just his toy. Something to do with all his spare cash.
 
Seriously? Roman actually gave AVB much more time than he had to previous managers. Ultimately AVB's sacking proved to be good for Chelsea...

How did you work that one out, where are you now, back to playing the way Roman didn't want in hope of getting Pep in the summer.

AVB was appointed as a project to change Chelsea's style of play. no one can be judged on that in 6 months.

Ok you won the Champions League with RDM but it wasn't far off a miracle the way you played and if AVB was told to put men behind a ball for 90 minutes with Drogba up front I am sure he could of done that, but that wasn't the 'project' he was assigned to do until Roman chopped him.
 
There's too much misguided hate about Roman. He may be trigger happy, but from his side of story, he doesn't just expects trophies, he wants the team to play in very specific style. This is core element in his longterm bussiness plan for Chelsea. Even Roman can't keep throwing 200milion at the club every year, and the only way to challenge marketing power MU or Real have, is to play attacking, dominating football. That's the reason for this obsession with Guardiola, he's one of the very few active managers who have accomplished such style at the top level.

A lot of managers promised that, signed the contract , but then attempted to do their own thing. And when it comes to RDM, well he's a nice bloke, but team didn't have any style at all, cant have longterm success in todays football when fielding 4 people who don't contribute to defense.
 
How did you work that one out, where are you now, back to playing the way Roman didn't want in hope of getting Pep in the summer.

AVB was appointed as a project to change Chelsea's style of play. no one can be judged on that in 6 months.

Ok you won the Champions League with RDM but it wasn't far off a miracle the way you played and if AVB was told to put men behind a ball for 90 minutes with Drogba up front I am sure he could of done that, but that wasn't the 'project' he was assigned to do until Roman chopped him.

No actually the main reason AVB was sacked was because he had alienated the players and was not being able to turn around the results leaving us in serious danger of finishing outside the Top 4 ... We can argue all day about his project but the fact is that AVB lost sight of the present..

And no don't be naive. We only played like that against Barcelona and Bayern. What about the amazing 3-1 win over Napoli? Or the thrashing of Spurs at Wembley? Or that great 2-2 draw with Barcelona?
 
There's too much misguided hate about Roman. He may be trigger happy, but from his side of story, he doesn't just expects trophies, he wants the team to play in very specific style. This is core element in his longterm bussiness plan for Chelsea. Even Roman can't keep throwing 200milion at the club every year, and the only way to challenge marketing power MU or Real have, is to play attacking, dominating football. That's the reason for this obsession with Guardiola, he's one of the very few active managers who have accomplished such style at the top level.

A lot of managers promised that, signed the contract , but then attempted to do their own thing. And when it comes to RDM, well he's a nice bloke, but team didn't have any style at all, cant have longterm success in todays football when fielding 4 people who don't contribute to defense.
This is where Chelsea fans just deflect problems away from Abramovich. AVB did his own thing? The man tried to play as attacking as he could. The high line he played was the reason Chelsea were getting hammered. And RDM was similar; he played quite attractive football, but conceded too many.

Abramovich demands this 'sexy football' with a team incapable of doing so, making it a lose-lose scenario for the manager(s). You don't have fast centrebacks that can cope with playing a high pressing line. Ramires and Mikel aren't the Xavi/Iniesta types that can control and dominate a game. Nor are they destroyers who can break up any attacks.

Abramovich thinks that just because Hazard was brought in, suddenly his team is transformed and he can expect his manager to play attacking football and win every single trophy. In 1 season.
 
The fact that Chelsea fans say he is a 'club legend' and can't really criticize him is why other fans laugh at your club. He doesn't give a **** about the fans etc, this is just his toy. Something to do with all his spare cash.

Bold part: Rubbish, it was said by ManUtd fan in this page.
Un-bold part: even more rubbish.
 
Tbh RDM's lack of tactical expertise was repeatedly exposed this season and while he is a great guy, I don't think the board had any confidence he could deliver.
 
Danyul wins the 'best troll of the day' award by a few country miles. *applause*
 
No actually the main reason AVB was sacked was because he had alienated the players and was not being able to turn around the results leaving us in serious danger of finishing outside the Top 4 ... We can argue all day about his project but the fact is that AVB lost sight of the present..

And no don't be naive. We only played like that against Barcelona and Bayern. What about the amazing 3-1 win over Napoli? Or the thrashing of Spurs at Wembley? Or that great 2-2 draw with Barcelona?

Hmmm funny you say that, isn't Malouda currently suffering in the reserves at the moment? There was more to that than AVB just alienating players, let's not forget the non-disclosure agreement he had to sign.. if we have to go there again. Obviously Chelsea are hiding something what they don't want out in public?

Look... RDM I am not against but my point is AVB was appointed with the 'project' in mind and he was given 6 months... you can't tel me that was enough time despite being beaten by 3-1 in Napoli... lets not forget they were a great team with great players like Lavezzi.. Cavani... Hamsik... etc. You were a team still under transition.
 
Yes but my point is that under AVB the club was really suffering. His relationships with the players had become irreparable. We were on the brink of elimination from the CL and FA Cup. We were drifting away from a top 4 spot. AVB was given more time than previous managers to turn things around but when things became so bad, there is little choice left.
 
Just to add I am not arguing whose fault it was for the whole fiasco. Just stating te facts and why AVB had to go.
 
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