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GodCubed said:
You don't have square pegs, you have round pegs, but just not enough of them. Go on, then, suggest another formation for you to use. 4-3-3? Nope, don't have the midfielders available. 4-4-2? Can't really play two out and out strikers and expect to get away with it, and besides you have no backups. Debunked the 4-3-2-1 earlier.

Lol, dear Robbie had the foresight and initiative to get rid of Meireles and Essien. It was HIS OWN FAULT he had diminished resources. Rafa's inherited his problems.
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His problems that put us 4 points off top with City to play next...mmmm yeah. Robbie had the backing of the players which Rafa does not have quite clearly. If your trying to tell me we have played better under Rafa than we did Robbie then you are blind and stupid and i don't think you are either of them.
 
Mike. said:
Nonsense, and selective nonsense as well. Chelsea currently are only set up to play one way thanks to your transfers. 4-2-3-1. Even then you are actually set up badly to play it. Rafa actually acknowledged that but Chelsea are not being back with any signings. Adapt to what exactly? This actually sadly your optimum set up. Not one of your criticisms actually stand up when teh facts are presented, apart from the fact he tends to make subs too late. There is not other formational set up. If your club hadnt foolishly got rid of Essien, you might actually have another option

You vendetta is actually ridiculous as it has very little basis in fact.
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Played 10 times better under Robbie with the same set up.
 
rephlex said:
You do know that putting "fact" at the end of a sentence doesn't make it a fact, right?

Now that, is a fact, by the way.
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Is in my head. There was a reason no club took a punt on him for nearly 2 years surely?
 
Mike. said:
Emery recently just joined Sevilla IIRC, and frankly I'm not convinced Moyes would be interested in the way your club is run. He is everything Chelsea currently do not stand for.
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True True. Although Moyes has seemingly finally gotten frustrated with the lack of funds at Everton. Maybe he will take a risk and join Chelsea.
 
CJACKO11 said:
Some managers don't suit certain jobs regardless of their past and this is one of them situations! Rafa had brilliant success once apon a time but these days he is not good enough fact.
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Bullshit. I cant sum it up in any other way than that.

You dont like him because of his past, that has no bearing on his actual ability.

Again its certainly not fact that he isnt good enough.
 
CJACKO11 said:
His problems that put us 4 points off top with City to play next...mmmm yeah. Robbie had the backing of the players which Rafa does not have quite clearly. If your trying to tell me we have played better under Rafa than we did Robbie then you are blind and stupid and i don't think you are either of them.
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And you are avoiding my question. If Rafa's so tactically inept, please, suggest an alternative.
 
CJACKO11 said:
His problems that put us 4 points off top with City to play next...mmmm yeah. Robbie had the backing of the players which Rafa does not have quite clearly. If your trying to tell me we have played better under Rafa than we did Robbie then you are blind and stupid and i don't think you are either of them.
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Really? you had a decent start, then tailed off hugely, which is what got him fired. Also the players do back Rafa, as Cech made a point of saying.
 
Mike. said:
Bullshit. I cant sum it up in any other way than that.

You dont like him because of his past, that has no bearing on his actual ability.

Again its certainly not fact that he isnt good enough.
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Well thats where your wrong because i didn't used to hate him at all. I used to laugh at him which it totally different.

GodCubed said:
And you are avoiding my question. If Rafa's so tactically inept, please, suggest an alternative.
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And you avoided mine, we played much better with this same set up under Di Matteo? Different managers, same players, same set up with different results!
 
Mike. said:
Really? you had a decent start, then tailed off hugely, which is what got him fired. Also the players do back Rafa, as Cech made a point of saying.
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Cumon that is a poor thing to say, Cech isn't exactly going to say otherwise is he regardless! 4 points off top with City to play next, that is not tailing off hugely.
 
CJACKO11 said:
Cumon that is a poor thing to say, Cech isn't exactly going to say otherwise is he regardless! 4 points off top with City to play next, that is not tailing off hugely.
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As so when they said it about Di matteo its true. when they say it about Rafa its just being polite. Bollocks.
 
Mike. said:
As so when they said it about Di matteo its true. when they say it about Rafa its just being polite. Bollocks.
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I never said that did i, but you can clearly see it in the teams performances on the pitch.
 
This is all still irrelevant. Like I said before, Benitez will never be accepted at the Bridge, so the entire thing is basically doomed anyway. His results and methods are certainly questionable but that doesn't even matter; he will never get the environment he needs to succeed so this is all just meaningless what ifs.

Even if we brought in Falcao and Modric now, gave Frank a new contract and came 3rd, people would still hate him.
 
Easy for non Chelsea fans to back him as he is not at their club. My opinion is, has always been and will always be is that he is not a top manager anymore. Was once apon a time but is not anymore. At the end of the days players, results and performances have all gotten worse since he took the job, coincidence?
 
Subtle said:
This is all still irrelevant. Like I said before, Benitez will never be accepted at the Bridge, so the entire thing is basically doomed anyway. His results and methods are certainly questionable but that doesn't even matter; he will never get the environment he needs to succeed so this is all just meaningless what ifs.

Even if we brought in Falcao and Modric now, gave Frank a new contract and came 3rd, people would still hate him.
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Majority would hate him yes i agree mate, but every man and his dog said from day one this partnership would not work and that is where Roman and his brain dead advisers need slating!
 
Subtle said:
This is all still irrelevant. Like I said before, Benitez will never be accepted at the Bridge, so the entire thing is basically doomed anyway. His results and methods are certainly questionable but that doesn't even matter; he will never get the environment he needs to succeed so this is all just meaningless what ifs.

Even if we brought in Falcao and Modric now, gave Frank a new contract and came 3rd, people would still hate him.
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For me this is classic cutting off your nose to spite your face. Its frankly all a bit pathetic. So what happens if the fans persist in making things more difficult and you end up 5th? congratulations Chelsea, you showed your passion into ending up outside the CL places.

He's not even a permanent manager anyway! He's leaving at the end of the season. Where is the logic in hurting your club when you get him out anyway

Not that it bothers me, rather than backing a manager who could actually turn this side in a huge threat to my club, i'm watching a pantomime unfold
 
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