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In a keepers case it is incredibly useful. We are specifically talking how good a keeper is in claiming the ball. A team might concede at set pieces for reasons not to do with the keeper. For example Guzan is a beast in the air, but Villa are terrible at defending set pieces. This is because Villa's defensive organisation pretty much doesn't exist.

Yeah, but aerial duels also aren't happening in the vacuum, the defenders still have a job to do when goalkeeper comes out to collect a cross. I'd imagine DDG success rate in the air goes up when you can field Vidic who can bully the attackers from trying to challenge the ball.
 
Yeah, but aerial duels also aren't happening in the vacuum, the defenders still have a job to do when goalkeeper comes out to collect a cross. I'd imagine DDG success rate in the air goes up when you can field Vidic who can bully the attackers from trying to challenge the ball.

Actually all our defenders have been similarly strong in the air this season. Vidic has only played half our games.
 
This is why you shouldnt listen to pundits and follow perception. De Gea this season has been much much better in the air than given credit for. To the point where his critics are having to become ever more outlandish in their aims to put him down.

I watch games Mike, it's not like I haven't watched United this season. Stats dont tell everything you know. I respect stats and GC, but stats can't tell the full story. We can recognize some improvement, but I do not think he is above Cech (all-round). I am not being biased either.

Oh, and the part about the pundits, lol. I don't take pundits seriously.
 
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Jumping in on the two keepers discussion i do firmly believe Cech is the best still in the PL but De Gea this season has been absolutely magnificent! He has really impressed me especially as the season has gone on, will no doubt be a world class keeper within 12-24 months 100%.
 
Stan showing his knowledge once again.......

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Please, don't come here with facts. People don't like facts!

Rafa does. (:

Jumping in on the two keepers discussion i do firmly believe Cech is the best still in the PL but De Gea this season has been absolutely magnificent! He has really impressed me especially as the season has gone on, will no doubt be a world class keeper within 12-24 months 100%.

Yes, he made a world class save so he must be the best keeper in the league. Genius.
 
Because the rest of the season hes been average?

I think the past 12 months he has shown what a great shot stopper he actually is. Before then Chelsea had most of the possession in games and would hardly face a shot but in the last 12 months at times we have been under the cosh and he produced save after save. I think he is the most comfortable at catching the ball in the Premier Leauge along with saves like yesterday and last years FA Cup final and Champs League final where he was the main reason we won them cups. Just because Chelsea have been very average this season i don't agree that Cech has been average. What has got worse or not changed if you will is his distribution which not only is very poor but very out dated for this teams new style of play. Too often he will go long and try to find Drogba as he was used to doing but as we all know he is no longer there. Instead there are smaller players who don't win the ball in the air and the play comes straight back at us.
 
This season i'd say he and Begovic and de Gea have been the best keepers in the league in my opinion.
 
We must not lose Thibaut, Carl. I will be ******. What should happen is:

1) Give Petr one last season (2013-14)
2) Give Thibaut another season at AM
3) 2014 - Bring Thibaut back
4) Give him a new 5 year contract
5) Make him first choice GK

6) Kiss Petr goodbye as he probably won't stay and be 2nd choice.
 
We must not lose Thibaut, Carl. I will be ******. What should happen is:

1) Give Petr one last season (2013-14)
2) Give Thibaut another season at AM
3) 2014 - Bring Thibaut back
4) Give him a new 5 year contract
5) Make him first choice GK

6) Kiss Petr goodbye as he probably won't stay and be 2nd choice.

Agree with this annoys me that 9/10 Chelsea fans would rather see us keep Petr till he is 39/40 and sell Courtois permanently just because Cech is a legend of the club and they are delusional and actually think he is still the worlds best keeper.
 
Agree with this annoys me that 9/10 Chelsea fans would rather see us keep Petr till he is 39/40 and sell Courtois permanently just because Cech is a legend of the club and they are delusional and actually think he is still the worlds best keeper.

Lol. He's not the best GK. To be fair, I want him to stay and be 2nd choice, but we must not lose Thibaut. He can be the best GK one day, he's already brilliant. He's going to get better and better. Seriously, he can be the best GK in 3 or 4 years.

I love Petr and I will be extremely sad to see him go, as I was when Drogba left.
 
We must not lose Thibaut, Carl. I will be ******. What should happen is:

1) Give Petr one last season (2013-14)
2) Give Thibaut another season at AM
3) 2014 - Bring Thibaut back
4) Give him a new 5 year contract
5) Make him first choice GK

6) Kiss Petr goodbye as he probably won't stay and be 2nd choice.

I actually think Courtois will benefit more from having a year on loan in the Premier League first, that's if i was gaffer anyway. Agree with you that we cannot lose the lad, he has all the attributes to be as good as Cech in his prime which would set us up nicely for the next 10 years! I actually think Petr may stay as 2nd choice, he has a great affiliation with the club and want better man to work closely with for Courtois than Cech?
 
Agree with this annoys me that 9/10 Chelsea fans would rather see us keep Petr till he is 39/40 and sell Courtois permanently just because Cech is a legend of the club and they are delusional and actually think he is still the worlds best keeper.

I actually see things the other way mate, most Chelsea fans i know/seen want Courtois to replace Cech asap and have not seen anyone say he is the best in the world.
 
I actually see things the other way mate, most Chelsea fans i know/seen want Courtois to replace Cech asap and have not seen anyone say he is the best in the world.

Must just be me that seems to follow all the delusional Chelsea fans who don't have a clue on twitter then.
 
I actually think Courtois will benefit more from having a year on loan in the Premier League first, that's if i was gaffer anyway. Agree with you that we cannot lose the lad, he has all the attributes to be as good as Cech in his prime which would set us up nicely for the next 10 years! I actually think Petr may stay as 2nd choice, he has a great affiliation with the club and want better man to work closely with for Courtois than Cech?

If he stays then - wow. That would be great. Fantastic.
 
30 year old goalkeeper is close to retirement and needs immidiate replacement after last, final year. Only at Chelsea.
 
30 year old goalkeeper is close to retirement and needs immidiate replacement after last, final year. Only at Chelsea.

If anything they may have got Courtois too early. They should extend his loan at Atletico, his development has been brilliant.
 
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