The F.A Cup Thread

[Matty]

Everyone is, quite rightly, telling me that time shouldn't matter in a foul.

You lot are right, of course, it shouldn't. I'm just annoyed because it will reduce this spectacle by a fair few notches.

A few years ago mate you would be spot on! But of course with the game turning into a farce contact wise, with a bunch of pre madonnas gracing the pitch there's now no such thing as a first tackle.

Although, Gerrard did jump in, so not much excuse for that particular tackle.

I would much prefer to see that more in football, than the reason for United getting their goal.

 

[Tharros]

It shoulnt matter. Your basically saying the rules of the game dont apply for the first 20 minutes of the game?

No, I'm saying the referee usually gives some leniency, and uses his yellows and gives warnings early in the match. Unless of course it is clearly a vicious foul or something. Which in this case it wasn't.

 

[Lee]

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That's definitely dangerous play from Rafael.

 

[Mike.]

Carrick and Gerrard both went into the challenge the same. Just because Gerrard has a bigger sack shouldn't mean he should get sent off.

And.. Rafael is a dirty *******.

that is all.

i refer you to the 50-50 challenge that resulted in ramseys injury, didnt hear you saying that shawcross had the bigger sack.

gerrard was too footed and off the ground, exactly like essien earlier in the season. Both were red cards

 

[DMF]

Ok yes that's fair enough, I used a bad example, in which case I'll use another.

Gerrard and Carrick went in exactly the same. Does Carrick not get anything just because he started rolling around?! Yes some ref's would've given it and some wouldn't; doesn;t mean I agree with the decision.

They went in the same? Debatable. At the end of the day Carrick won the ball cleanly and Gerrard got Carrick. Had it been the other way and Carrick had been sent off, guarantee that you would not be saying it was a poor decision.

 

[Eddie Money]

Had it been the other way and Carrick had been sent off, guarantee that you would not be saying it was a poor decision.

i would be if the same thing had happened the other way round, deffo.

 

[Clarky.]

No, I'm saying the referee usually gives some leniency, and uses his yellows and gives warnings early in the match. Unless of course it is clearly a vicious foul or something. Which in this case it wasn't.

It wasn't a malicious challenge but he left the ground with studs showing. In todays game the rules state thats a red card.

 

[Frank]

i refer you to the 50-50 challenge that resulted in ramseys injury, didnt hear you saying that shawcross had the bigger sack.

gerrard was too footed and off the ground, exactly like essien earlier in the season. Both were red cards

See the ramsey challenge, how high and clumsy it was? Gerrard actually won the ball and carrick went in the same.

Carrick has a career threatening broken leg? nah didn't think so.

 

[CJACKO11]

Gerrard went in with more excessible force thats why he got punished.

 

[DMF]

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That's definitely dangerous play from Rafael.

Most obvious difference there is that Rafael won the ball cleanly and didn't touch Meireles. Gerrard on the other hand clearly missed the ball and got Carrick in the ankle.

Why is it whenever we beat Liverpool they find excuses about it.. Accept it, it was a red card for Gerrard.

Will comment on the penalty once I've seen it, but as I said earlier Mark Lawrenson (ex-Liverpool) said on the radio it was a definite penalty...

 

[Joel`]

See the ramsey challenge, how high and clumsy it was? Gerrard actually won the ball and carrick went in the same.

Carrick has a career threatening broken leg? nah didn't think so.

Some players can be incredibly unlucky and a challenge that 999/1000 wouldn't injure someone can turn sour. I didn't realise we sent people off just because someone else is unfortunate enough to break a leg, regardless of how it happened.

 

[JDY]

1. Wasn't a penalty. Berba took a dive.

2. Was a red card IMO. You won't get away with challenges like that anymore if you leave the ground with studs showing. It doesn't matter if he didn't touch him or he got the ball, it's dangerous play and should be a red card.

3. Although he got the ball, Rafael could have also easily been off.

 

[Mike.]

See the ramsey challenge, how high and clumsy it was? Gerrard actually won the ball and carrick went in the same.

Carrick has a career threatening broken leg? nah didn't think so.

gerrard's was off the ground, therefore dangerous play = red, like essien.

you cant have it both ways. The injury, although terrible, is somewhat irrelevant

 

[Alex]

Will comment on the penalty once I've seen it, but as I said earlier Mark Lawrenson (ex-Liverpool) said on the radio it was a definite penalty...

And upon viewing, quite clearly not a penalty.

 

[TGW]

Absolutely ludicrous decisions by the referee so far - he's effectively thrown the game to United.

1) - The Penalty? - Clear dive by Berbatov, was a small small small small tiny-wincy small piece of a tap by whatisface, and Berbatov delayed, and threw himself to the ground as if he'd been shot. Just, not a penalty, never ever a penalty, shocking decision.

2) Red Card? - No. In my opinion, it shouldn't have been red. Yellow yes, because if you look closely, both of them were committed to the challenge, and, it's a massive derby match, just shouldn't be a red.

Right, that's what I think, and I know I'll probably get slaughtered by every single million of Man U fans here, but I think Liverpool have played pretty well, against a strong United side, and I think they've done slightly better, and have had the better of the chances, minus the header which his the post

 

[Eddie Money]

i like the way the linesman could see perfect and didnt give the peno, yet webb had a bad position and gave it. definate dive by berba.

 

[Clarky.]

I see no use in the whole head sets or ear pieces all the officials have when such things happen and Webb doesn't even consult the linesman who was clearly in a better postion.

 

[Lee]

Most obvious difference there is that Rafael won the ball cleanly and didn't touch Meireles. Gerrard on the other hand clearly missed the ball and got Carrick in the ankle.

Why is it whenever we beat Liverpool they find excuses about it.. Accept it, it was a red card for Gerrard.

Will comment on the penalty once I've seen it, but as I said earlier Mark Lawrenson (ex-Liverpool) said on the radio it was a definite penalty...

I'm not making excuse. I accept that Gerrards was a red card, I'm not even mentioning that.

The fact he wins the ball is irrelevant, it's still dangerous play.

 

[Eddie Money]

and gerrard and carrick went in at exactly the same time. sigh.

 

[DMF]

See the ramsey challenge, how high and clumsy it was? Gerrard actually won the ball and carrick went in the same.

Carrick has a career threatening broken leg? nah didn't think so.

Gerrard didn't win the ball. Carrick did.

Just seen the replay. Minimal contact on Berbatov, definitely wasn't a penalty. But on the balance of play, we probably deserve the lead at the moment.