The Liverpool Thread

[Davey Jones]

Rodgers will be gone in a month, I'm fairly confident. He's always been wank against good sides, and now we're actually going to face a few.

Would be nice to have a few losses just to get him sacked, he has become delusional right now

 

[LFCMarshall]

Well unlike most on here, I'm hoping for a win on Sunday... Surprisingly

 

[Aannddyy]

Would be nice to have a few losses just to get him sacked, he has become delusional right now

This makes me sad. I'd never hope for us to lose, the fact that people like yourselves actually are just to get Rodgers sacked is pretty embarrassing.

 

[Tezzz]

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I will never understand that mentality. Ever.

It doesn't matter who is in charge, you should want to win, especially against Everton of nearly all teams

Spend a few hundred pound and go to a few matches mate. Then come back and give me your **** opinion.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

This makes me sad. I'd never hope for us to lose, the fact that people like yourselves actually are just to get Rodgers sacked is pretty embarrassing.

Is that not just symptomatic of just how bad things are and how everyone is at complete rock bottom though? I can only once remember this and that was the last couple of games under Hodgson. When Blackburn won the League in '95, we wanted to win that game regardless even if it handed Utd the league. I remember lads getting smacked the Kop that day for jumping up when Rovers scored. For Liverpudlians to now be that exasperated in the hope that defeats will finally bring around change says FAR more about the current situation at the club than it does about any fan to me.

You could make the argument you're there to support the club not whoever is wearing the shirt/ managing at the time. But when there's absolutely no glimmer of any hope going forward, all you're doing in effect is supporting keeping the club in mediocrity. It's like justifying the continued ***** just to get a feel good win. Forget that the performance has invariably been rank bad to achieve that. Or that it probably won't roll over to the next game.

I appreciate this is a very emotive subject, bringing into question the whole ethos of being a 'fan.'

But I couldn't knock anyone who's reduced to that when all they're thinking about is the long term good of a football club going absolutely nowhere under the current regime and getting worse by the passing game. Just like I fully understand why someone wouldn't want anything other than the club to win every game regardless.

These are horribly ***** times to even be having this discussion but they'll remain such so long as the common denominator is still in the equation.

 

[ImAddicted]

Honestly, I think Rodgers is a fantastic manager!

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[Scouseinthehouse]

..... Spend a few hundred pound and go to a few matches mate. Then come back and give me your **** opinion.

Noted that the other week here though the (IMO) 'this isn't anywhere near as bad as Hodgson' bunkum. The complete disparity between the match going fan and the TV watching/ Internet fan. Go sit through this boring tedium live and see if you still have the same POV.

And that's not said with any slight on anyone in the later bracket. It just is what it is.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Jurgen knows .....

https://twitter.com/amedeuce/status/649112846589161472/video/1

 

[LFCMarshall]

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Spend a few hundred pound and go to a few matches mate. Then come back and give me your **** opinion.

Noted that the other week here though the (IMO) 'this isn't anywhere near as bad as Hodgson' bunkum. The complete disparity between the match going fan and the TV watching/ Internet fan. Go sit through this boring tedium live and see if you still have the same POV.

And that's not said with any slight on anyone in the later bracket. It just is what it is.

Bollocks. You see the same terrible stuff on the TV you do at the game and it doesn't make you any better than anybody else

Besides the point, I have been to a few games this season and spent a few hundred pound so that statement's wrong and yet it doesn't change my opinion of wanting the team I support to win a game, believe it or not

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Bollocks. You see the same terrible stuff on the TV you do at the game and it doesn't make you any better than anybody else ....

Twice I've been very careful to not even suggest the 'better fan' B/S. So please don't try infer I did.

But the first part is, as you say, bollocks. You more than not get a completely different picture of a game through a small screen as you do live.

 

[epic terrorist]

Twice I've been very careful to not even suggest the 'better fan' B/S. So please don't try infer I did.

But the first part is, as you say, bollocks. You more than not get a completely different picture of a game through a small screen as you do live.

I think to expand upon this point on the TV you get a good point of view what with replays, punditry etc, but I think the difference with being at the game and being able to see the whole pitch is you can see stuff that Commentators maybe do not pick up on or mention very briefly because it does not make good tv. Like all the little nuances of team shape, players who may be open for a pass but are off camera etc, etc.

 

[Tezzz]

I think to expand upon this point on the TV you get a good point of view what with replays, punditry etc, but I think the difference with being at the game and being able to see the whole pitch is you can see stuff that Commentators maybe do not pick up on or mention very briefly because it does not make good tv. Like all the little nuances of team shape, players who may be open for a pass but are off camera etc, etc.

It's nothing to do with being at the game to pick up things the TV doesn't. It's being at the game.

But hey, I'm happy we are followed world-wide because it brings in the revenue we need to spend so much money on transfers (albeit we're **** at that anyway) but my god these armchair TV/live stream supporters really are a bunch of clueless gobshites who need their heads checking.

If it weren't for a wonder goal from Coutinho vs Stoke and a shocking linesmen decision vs Bournemouth we'd have only a single win next to our name for this entire season. You can blame player performance all you want but it's managers job to change that and BR simply hasn't.

Shankly would be turning in his grave.

 

[spook]

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Playground.

 

[epic terrorist]

It's nothing to do with being at the game to pick up things the TV doesn't. It's being at the game.

But hey, I'm happy we are followed world-wide because it brings in the revenue we need to spend so much money on transfers (albeit we're **** at that anyway) but my god these armchair TV/live stream supporters really are a bunch of clueless gobshites who need their heads checking.

If it weren't for a wonder goal from Coutinho vs Stoke and a shocking linesmen decision vs Bournemouth we'd have only a single win next to our name for this entire season. You can blame player performance all you want but it's managers job to change that and BR simply hasn't.

Shankly would be turning in his grave.

What this has to do with my post I am unsure, was merely expanding upon scouse's point but does not make you less of a fan whether you go to the game or not. There are a few on here who live in foreign countries so all they can do is watch on a live stream, but they still contribute to this forum and still come up with more interesting points than people who go to the game and the summation of their input is "get rid of it" or "he should have scored" or "Ref's a ******".

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

What this has to do with my post I am unsure, was merely expanding upon scouse's point but does not make you less of a fan whether you go to the game or not. There are a few on here who live in foreign countries so all they can do is watch on a live stream, but they still contribute to this forum and still come up with more interesting points than people who go to the game and the summation of their input is "get rid of it" or "he should have scored" or "Ref's a ******".

My general point is that there's a complete disparity in the main between those who attend games and those that don't.

Point in case, the Europa League And a recent discussion about binning the League Cup. Most everyone who went out to Bordeaux, and who were there last night, along with Carlisle, and who'll be there again Sunday and Tottenham etc (day trippers aside); wanted a full strength side out and a L'pool team going all out to win all three games. The majority who don't go through that and all the sacrifices involved buy into the B/S the TV and clubs spout about those competitions and would be equally happy to not be in them. Then you get told it's nowhere near as bad as previous times when your sat bored ******* rigid watching absolute ***** week in, week out with a crowd as listless as at any time it ever was under Hodgson down to that. And so on and so forth.

There's often a completely different view point from someone watching on TV or the net to not only what they've just witnessed, but the general state of affairs at a club; than a supporter who suffers through it live and all he's gone through to do that.

 

[Tezzz]

What this has to do with my post I am unsure, was merely expanding upon scouse's point but does not make you less of a fan whether you go to the game or not. There are a few on here who live in foreign countries so all they can do is watch on a live stream, but they still contribute to this forum and still come up with more interesting points than people who go to the game and the summation of their input is "get rid of it" or "he should have scored" or "Ref's a ******".

How are you unsure of what I said has to do with your post when I quite obviously point it out in the first sentence? Read it out again, slowly, and then make a comment.

 

[epic terrorist]

How are you unsure of what I said has to do with your post when I quite obviously point it out in the first sentence? Read it out again, slowly, and then make a comment.

first things first keep your snotty little comments to yourself, if you wanna be one of those internet ****** go on twitter and be one because this isn't the place butseeing as you wish to play the role of condescending ***** so well and I have had an hours sleep I will more than happily play along.

Why don't you actually READ the comment I replied to in that Scouse said to marshall that you get a more complete picture of the game when in attendance, to which I further elaborated. So that is two forum posters who agree upon the fact that when you attend the game you get a more complete picture of the match. To then explicitly state that it has nothing to do with that makes no sense hence me asking why you quoted me. I think that most people would agree with me that you get a completely different view of the game at the stadium and at this point I do not even get what your point is only that you want to be some kind of *****?

Also I take massive exception with this snobbery bullshit, telling marshall he needs to spend a few hundred quid on a game then get back to you with his **** opinion, what does that even mean? Then in the post you quoted me telling me the armchair/livestream fans are gobshites and clueless?

Right lets go through some of the posters on this forum who live in other countries who post on this forum and this is all memory so forumites correct me if I am wrong

Alcaraz - Far East but I am under the impression somewhere he lived in England when younger
Mersk - few pages back Norwegian
Manumad - lives in Cyprus (he goes to united when possible)
Sunil - not sure if he actually is now
Nick Chelsea - Bulgarian - will just add I thought he was English till a while back
Vanja - Bosnia ( I think)
Anthony ( Irish)
Tyton - Poland although he does not officially support United he follows them

These guys are regular posters and I​ think it is save to assume that majority of the time they probably stream but they all follow their club and have their fingers on the pulse on any issues regarding the respective teams they support. So you get to go to games, lucky you, you get the opportunity to spend your hard earned cash on match tickets, I am sure these guys would love that opportunity. But I digress, does that make their opinion count for more or less than yours? I'll give you a clue its neither, and this tired line that "ermagawd only real fanz go 2 games" is bullshit. I went to one Leeds match last season, only been to two this year doesn't make me any less of a fan than someone who has a pass, because I have been there through the highs and lowest low's. Your ignorance is quite outstanding and offensive, but please do tell us more of how elevated your opinion is amongst your fellow Liverpool fans.

 

[Ride The Walrus]

god shut up you bunch of boring bastards

 

[Average Joe]

I'm a Milan supporter and have been since I was fairly young (Manchester United my other side since I was a kid).

I've been to plenty of games here as a neutral, seen Fiorentina, Aston Villa, Manchester United etc etc and have to say that when I watched the matches back after the game on it does give you a different impression of events. And if you're watching back in the pub with mates who were not there you generally get very different views on occurrences thorough the match.

It's really quite surprising the difference, but as a neutral I could appreciate different views from both.

For me, the best part of football is the opinions and discussions and writing off anyone's opinion because of how they watched a game just seems odd

 

[Anthony]

For me, the best part of football is the opinions and discussions and writing off anyone's opinion because of how they watched a game just seems odd

Yeah, it's a bit knobby.

You are right about the different experience though.
I never miss an Ireland home game and when you get to the pub afterwards you hear things like "McClean had a **** game".
But the guy could have been making brilliant runs all game off camera and not being picked out by his team mates.