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can they know that before hes in full training? hes only in 70% so far.. Nice to see hes on target for his return
 
Yeah, it doesn't matter if you're fit enough to run an ultramarathon, if you can't make quick turns and rapidly change direction. Blaszczykowski is one recent example. Monster of a player in that peak season when BVB made CL final. Relentless when defending, wicked shot with each foot, **** of a dribbler. Then he ****** his knee, out for 9 months, eventually recovered and kept playing for 6 more years but he was never the same. And by all accounts he's a consummate professionals who is always in top shape, but sometimes your body just can't do what you want it to do.
 
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This 100%.
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Remember Falcao came back from a nasty ACL and came to yous lot and wasn't the same player. Took him another year or two to get back to a decent level and even then he never got to the same levels as before.
 
dilakh2 said:
Remember Falcao came back from a nasty ACL and came to yous lot and wasn't the same player. Took him another year or two to get back to a decent level and even then he never got to the same levels as before.
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He was so bad for us and Chelsea people genuinely thought he was done. Thankfully he's got much better buy as you say, still not quite his lethal best. But he's has some brutal knee injuries
 
And then conversly there’s guys like van Nistelrooy and Shearer who came back even stronger from similar horific ACL’s. Both out for a similar time frame as Alex IIRC before hitting the ground running straight back.

Every players bodies different. Pointless speculating until he’s out there playing games again.
 
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And then conversly there’s guys like van Nistelrooy and Shearer who came back even stronger from similar horific ACL’s. Both out for a similar time frame as Alex IIRC before hitting the ground running straight back.

Every players bodies different. Pointless speculating until he’s out there playing games again.
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Van Nistelrooy was out for the best part of 2 years. Which is literally our point.

You're the one who is going on about the brilliant recovery, everyone else is saying dial it back
 
Now that I’m somewhat dry again .....

Well that might well turn out to be another invaluable point toward the title. But we won’t know whether its a good point or bad until May 12.

Frustrating afternoon where we just weren’t quite on it all over the park. Controlled it sound for the most part and had more than enough excellent scoring opportunities. Just lads final touches/ decisions being off and balls not quite dropping. Frustrating and annoying as I always want to be beat Everton more than anyone. (‘Always the victims ..... ‘ From fellow Scousers. REALLY? Bitter ____houses.). But this season of all seasons they were gonna fight tooth and nail for everything.

On the plus side, that’s 5 clean-sheets again in a row. (17 and counting the league for Alisson.). Which is a super base the run-in and Europe before the attack inevitably starts to click again. And the single most important thing, when you aren’t on it and aren’t playing too well, don’t get beat. Take the point and move on to the gameplan for Burnley.

Let’s see how City cope with their away Derby in among a brutal looking end to April for them.

Frustrating to not beat the Ev. But quite calm and happy in the bigger picture.

A point behind with 9 to play. And only 2 of those against top 6 sides. Both at home? We’ve had FAR worse Sundays.

Up the down but nowhere near out Reds!
 
Mike. said:
Van Nistelrooy was out for the best part of 2 years. Which is literally our point.

You're the one who is going on about the brilliant recovery, everyone else is saying dial it back
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Oh, was van Nistelrooy slightly longer? My mistake. But the premise is the same. He was straight back at it as good as new. As was Shearer on his return. So speculating on whether Alex will or won’t be is futile as everyones different.

And it is a rapid recovery to this point. Well ahead of schedule.

Nottin needs dialling back on that. It was taken out of context when it went down the expectaton line ..... On a lad who’s not played a ressi game yet. Very strange to even start talking in those terms at this stage.

Made up with his progress to this point with the proapectt of seeing him on a football field again this week.

Who wouldn’t love that?
 
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People may have different recovery speed, but every knee works the same. I'd imagine individual playstyle is what makes a difference. Shearer was basically rugby player posing as a footballer, so lack of mobility wouldn't stop him from returning to top level. But look at fat Ronaldo and his style of dribbling and it's pretty obvious why he was never the same after his knees got ******.
 
Both Nist & Shearer came back after a preseason as well. ACL tear recovery is 9 months or more after the surgery, lad is right on track should be great to see him get minutes before a summer rest.
 
wkdsoul said:
Both Nist & Shearer came back after a preseason as well. ACL tear recovery is 9 months or more after the surgery, lad is right on track should be great to see him get minutes before a summer rest.
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Exactly. Which is what the aim was along. For him to be ready to take part in a full pre-season to be back for next year.

Now he’s well ahead of the curve on the prognosis they set for a time-frame on that to the point it’s great to have the chance to see him playing football again.

An unexpected and happy bonus.
 
Our run-ins picture perfect yanno’ now Utd and Everton are done.

6 games against 6 the bottom 7 teams and Chelsea/ Tottenham/ Wolves at home.

Couldn’t have hand picked a much better run of games.

Honestly see us running 9 out of 9 there.

If City also go perfect fair ***** to them. Couldn’t grumble at all losing it to a 98 point team.

Like Pep has said on City if they lose out to ourselves, I’d have NO regrets personally.

Just immense pride at flipping a MAMMOTH 25 point gap from last season to be serious contenders again against the most expensively assembled side in history putting together two of the greatest back-to-back seasons in English top flight history.
 
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Ox definitely been a big miss this season. Mostly down to him & Salah having a great understanding (https://twitter.com/VintageSalah/status/1087730809279315973), but partially because Keita hasn't done what was said on the tin. He was supposed to replace Ox's effective drive from midfield, co-grab games by the scuff of the neck, add goals & assists and just link the midfield and attack like Ox was doing, but just hasn't (at least consistently) done so. Be nice for you if Ox could hit the ground running for the run-in, but as said here, ACL is no gimme.

Having said that, City missing De Bruyne for the season (even when he's been sparingly on the pitch, he might as well not be; just hasn't looked half the player - another example of needing time & probably a nice pre-season to recover I guess) more than evens it out.
 
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I really like Gary Neville as a pundit. Tells it straight on what he believes with no ulterior agenda. I’d take him any day of the week over Sky’s rent-a-gobshite Carragher who just plays the Sky game for the sake of controversy.

But telling L’pool Football Club to sack off the European Cup for the PL ..... SERIOUSLY Gary?

Who do yers think we are? Tottenham?!!!!!

This club’s history has been built, in large parts, on great European nights. Why our standing is still SO high across the Continent. One of Europe’s marquee clubs who only look up to Madrid amd Milan in UEFA competition lore.

There’s NO bigger competition/ prize in football than the European Cup. Certainly in club football. I want the league as much as the next man. Nigh on 30 years wait is a LONG time between titles. But give me the European Cup over the PL ANY day of the week. Champions of a whole Continent> Champions of a Country.

And you think we should jib that for the sake of the league Gary? SERIOUSLY?!!!!! Would you say the same about Utd this week in Paris for the sake of the top 4?

All that said, I want both. And with the depth of what is almost a fully healthy squad again for the run-in, there’s absolutely no reason why we shouldn’t be going all out for both as we are.

Disgracefully poor suggestion. Whatever the premise was behind it.
 
How’s rhat deiberate booking working out for yers now Ramos?

Shithouse.

45 more mins.

Come on Ajax!
 
Real v Ajax a perfect example of why VAR should not exist. 4 minutes to try and determine if a ball went out when there is no angle to give a clear and definitive answer. Complete joke.

Anyway, Tadic belter. 3-0.
 
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