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MAJOR loss of respect for Kovac there.

We all know why it happens. I actually don’t mind it. As frustrating as it is. Rightly or wrongly, it always has been an ‘acceptable’ part of European competition. And it will happen more and more in Europe to ourselves now L’pool have returned to being one of Europes top sides that everyone fears playing. Top sides like Munich will use every trick they can to make sure they don’t get blitzed and the ties still alive for the second leg.

Sound with all that and I take it as a compliment and sign of fear/ respect to our status again across the Continent.

But don’t come out and openly brag about what is overt cheating when you boil it down. That’s bang out of order and taking things too far.
 
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Lmao. Kovac been taking notes from Poch. Yes it's part of the game, but don't be so ******* honest about it XD
 
Well that's a bit embarrasing from Kovacs, but I'm not gonna bash a guy for being honest.
 
First rule of breaking the rules, don’t tell everyone your breaking the rules. Really would have thought that would be more obvious
 
It's not like he revealed some shocking conspiracy, public knowledge that all the teams are doing it on regular basis.

I didn't mind Pochettino talking about it either. "Is it true that you're practicing diving?" "Yes". Conversation over. What is a point of endless speculation if it's all an open secret anyway.

As much as I hate all ridiculous diving and shady gamesmanship that creeped into the game, I really can't blame the players for it anymore, when I would be doing the same thing in their position. Fish rots at the head, UEFA and FIFA have allowed this stuff to go on for years and they haven't done ****, so why stop now?
 
Uhmmm ..... Maybe because it’s openly both admitting/ condoning blatent cheating. And then boasting about it?

And you don’t see a problem with that?
 
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First rule of breaking the rules, don’t tell everyone your breaking the rules. Really would have thought that would be more obvious
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It is interesting situation. We where punished and harashed a lot, but at the same time not breaking any specific rules. We where on public road, where there was clear view from the fence to see everything happenin in training, additionaly many managers say they have done the same. But still as it is Leeds, we where investigated and in the end punished with 200k fine.

FA even does not punish racist people, chants, divers, banana throwers, MEDIA harrassing footballers etc etc. And the biggest cripe is when ref sees the foul then FA cant do **** about it.
In the end we just broke somekind of "good faith" rule.

If anyone interestend to read the end of spygate:
STATEMENT FROM EFL & LEEDS UNITED
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Uhmmm ..... Maybe because it’s openly both admitting/ condoning blatent cheating. And then boasting about it?

And you don’t see a problem with that?
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At this point the only people I blame is football authorities for tolerating this **** for far too long. If they acted 10-15 years ago when this stuff only started to happen en masse, we wouldn't have to watch blatant cheating in literally every game. Players are always going to bend the rules, it's the people up top who have to get off their *** if things gets out of control.
 
It started WELL longer than 10-15 years ago. The Italians and Eastern Europeans were doing this back at the inception of the European Cup. And don’t get me started on the South Americans.

No question the authoraties are to blame. But you can’t have actual coaches/ managers openly boasting about both going out to, and actually doing, cheating.
 
Of course it started ages ago, but it didn't really become widespread until 3-foreign players rule was removed and south american players flooded Europe. And that's what, mid-90s?

Plus you can't retaliate with a bit of rule breaking of your own anymore. I don't remember Klinsmann diving that much when he was at Spurs, he knew it would end with someone's boot up his ***.
 
Honestly mate it was terribly widespread the ‘80’s in European football.

It really isn’t anything new. And neither is the hypocritical English attitude that turns a blind eye to it when its there own but gets all ubber xenophobic when it’s against them.
 
Scouse, back in a day my hometown club had an owner who was a genuine crazy person. Dude was convinced all Brazilians are Peles and Ronaldos who just weren't discovered yet, so he would ship literally dozens of random Brazillians to Poland and paid them to play football. At some point we had like 20 of them. Half would bolt on the first plane back to Brazil after first taste of Polish winter, then we would bring new ones. Most of them were worse than random kid you could find just on the street so we ended up relegated. I'm not making this up.

And believe you me, even those randoms were notorious for cheating. That's just how they roll over there.
 
Midfield for tomorrow. Stick with Keita or bring in the inform Hendo to partner Fabinho and Wiji. If i was a betting man I'd say Hendo,Fabino and Wiji but Im not sure the captain can play two quick games in succession.
 
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