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Liverpool Echo's James Pearce one of the most trusted persons regarding LFC affairs has come out to suggest that the Transfer Committee (TC) could have made BR's work difficult at Anfield. The sale of senior players on big wages and the signings that BR made this season were not totally his choice, but the committee's. Many managers refused to work under a sporting director when they were interviewed by FSG for the job before BR came in. FSG later set up this committee that is identical, or perhaps wields more power than a sporting director, whilst giving the idea that the manager is totally in charge. Whatever decision the manager makes with regards to signings and contracts, will be voted by 5 people in the committee. Only in the case of a majority vote, BR can sign the players he wants. Otherwise he has to improvise with the players chosen by the TC. Pearce says BR NEVER wanted to sign Balotelli but was forced to settle for him. In other words, it was the TC that ultimately failed to replace Suarez despite getting big money by selling him. Pearce says BR also made it clear that he wanted Michel Vorm and that signing a GK is a priority. But he says the transfer committee refused to pay his value despite only spending over 30mil in net spending this summer. This also had a significant impact on Mignolet's form as LFC didn't try to provide competition for the Belgian. Pearce says paying top bucks for Lovren made perfect sense at that point, as he was not one for the future, but was coming in as a top centre back, based on his form with the Saints and his Premier League experience. He was bought to hit the ground running. However he's had a major dip in form which is disappointing says Pearce. Similar tone has been voiced by Mike Bernard, a former employee of FSG, who said BR failing to see eye-to-eye with some of the TC members and their signings, is getting a little unsavoury. Mike noted that BR wanted Eriksen and Bony but was overruled. This also goes back to previous failures to show the money and securing players early when they had interest to move to LFC. Plenty of dragging negotiations and low-balling saw the failure of securing targets such as Willian, Salah, Mikhtaryan, Konoplyanka and more. Diego Costa was identified by BR as a transfer target when Costa was playing as a wing-forward, long before he became a star in that out-and-out striker position and caught the whole world's attention. TC thought his release clause of 20mil back then was too much. The rest is history. While we drag our feet on targets, other clubs come into the picture, showed the money and swooped them as we watch helplessly. Even for Sanchez, Phil Thompson declared during the world cup that we had Sanchez in the bag. However too much negotiations into details and conditions in payment method allowed Arsenal to sneak in and turn his and his wife's head.

Pearce also does not believe with the popular excuse that BR got founded after Suarez left, and that it was the Uruguayan who made BR look good last season. He says BR's tactical acumen led the team prosper last season, not Suarez alone. The expectations has been raised by last season's football and LFC are struggling with the pressure now he adds. Pearce labels Borini's position as strange and wonders if it could be the club showing frustration against him, for not being able to secure 14mil from Sunderland and another 13mil from QPR. They're certainly making it clear to Borini that he shouldn't reject another deal in January. Another journo Graham Beecroft says Borini could have indicated that he rather sit on the bench and take the wages or run down his contract, than moving to a small club ie Sunderland, QPR who are also refusing to pay more wages than LFC. Could be the reason why he's strangely frozen. Could be the club's decision not the manager's.

The last time Pearce spoke to BR, the manager said Can and some of the new players are still trying to adapt to his philosophy of football and it could be the reason why BR resorts to playing those who know what is expected of them for now. But Pearce says he will speak to BR again about Can to find out more on his position. Pearce says LFC's season could depend on Sturridge coming back to be paired with Balotelli upfront, and then allow the rest of the team to click. Pearce doesn't know if FSG are willing to spend in January but it's a question of can they afford not to. As champions league new TV deal brings in over 40mil next season compared to 25mil before, he opines that LFC must spend. Especially on a top quality striker, taking into account Studge's fitness.
 
This whole transfer committee business is strange. I get that FSG want some oversight over transfer dealings within their own club but by the time 5 people do due diligence on a transfer and then vote, another club will swoop in and ****** the player at this level
 
Alcaraz said:
This whole transfer committee business is strange. I get that FSG want some oversight over transfer dealings within their own club but by the time 5 people do due diligence on a transfer and then vote, another club will swoop in and ****** the player at this level
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Not just that, once they've been scouted and vote upon, then we also try get the players for peanuts too. Dempsey/Willian/Mikhataryan/ et al.

the TC was put into place after Damien ******* Comolli spunked so much money. They're literally doing everything, apart from the one thing almost all football clubs do; have scouts, report to manager, who reports to director, who reports to owner.
 
the transfer committee should all be sacked the manager should have the final say on all transfers he should find his targets and make a move for them not listen to 5 idiots one as thick as the other dont know there **** from there elbow no top manager would come here and want to work with a committee rodgers is just a yes man
 
That's strange as he himself he has the last say on the players and also involved in identifying which players are needed,

Rodgers must secure the agreement of the committee that a player meets the club’s requirements and is worth pursuing.
However, the boss says the input of Ayre, Fallows and Edwards is a help rather than a hindrance in the recruitment process.
“Obviously, I am involved heavily in the identification of the player,” Rodgers told the ECHO.
“The principle idea when I first came in was that like any manager you will have the first call on a player and the last call.
“That’s the call on whether he’s good enough to continue to look at and try to organise a deal and the last call to say yes or no.
“There is a big part that goes on in between. In modern football you need to trust other people to do the work. That’s something we do here and that’s why we have had the success we’ve had.
“The finer details of that are left to Ian who does a terrific job and our other guys in that field who will go through the contracts. I am aware of where the situation is at right the way through the process.
“We will never bring in a player here who the manager doesn’t want in. That’s a great credit to the owners and the other people at the club.
“We work very closely together – it’s worth stressing that. It’s key that we are very much one club.
“We are really preparing for next season. I’ve had some very good meetings with our recruitment team. We are very much together as one.”
The negotiating of transfer fees and player contracts is carried out by Ayre and Fallows, who have been busy working on deals to try to secure the likes of Southampton’s Adam Lallana and Bayer Leverkusen’s Emre Can.
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Brendan Rodgers on Liverpool FC transfer committee and how he will always have final say on signings - Liverpool Echo
 
PA11111 said:
the transfer committee should all be sacked the manager should have the final say on all transfers he should find his targets and make a move for them not listen to 5 idiots one as thick as the other dont know there **** from there elbow no top manager would come here and want to work with a committee rodgers is just a yes man
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Tell that to Villa fans.

PA11111 said:
dont care sack them all incompetent **** mucnhers
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Calm down.
 
Shoulda signed Fabianski for free and that'd be the end of it.
 
calm down my **** nice to see yer all relaxed we are 11th after spending 120 million and the laughing stock of the league
 
Vanjagl said:
I would suggest you write open letter to Liverpool chairman. You seem very knowledgeable about this whole situation.
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arent u a man utd fan? **** back in to there thread instead of coming in here posting ur stupid **** looking for a reaction
 
corach1992 said:
You ruin this thread for me, jesus Christ chill a bit man!!!
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bit hard to 'chill a bit man' when the team keeps putting in pathetic performance after pathetic performance and doesnt look like stopping any time soon
 
PA11111 said:
bit hard to 'chill a bit man' when the team keeps putting in pathetic performance after pathetic performance and doesnt look like stopping any time soon
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I get the need to vent, and people ideally shouldn't be provoking you, but you take the bait so easily. At least Zzezzy is polite with his rage posts.
 
I no but some of your comments are a bit unnecessary imo, And i'll have to agree with Subtle you take the bait to easily just ignore people like them!!!
 
Anyway. It'll be interesting to see how much Liverpool spend in this coming window. If it's only a few million, you'd assume they've lost faith in Rodgers. If it's heavy investment, they're backing him. I'm still unconvinced there's a CB on the market that's markedly better than what Liverpool currently have, and likewise a goalkeeper.
 
GodCubed said:
Anyway. It'll be interesting to see how much Liverpool spend in this coming window. If it's only a few million, you'd assume they've lost faith in Rodgers. If it's heavy investment, they're backing him. I'm still unconvinced there's a CB on the market that's markedly better than what Liverpool currently have, and likewise a goalkeeper.
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I really don't see them spending much as Rodgers have wasted so much money. Also Carragher made some interesting points yesterday about the defensive set up and training than individual players. Rodgers is more interested in training attacking play than set up defensive system.

Also individually Liverpool CBs are not bad at all. Sakho, Lovern and SKrtel are good CBs but it's the system problem.
 
sunilvk7 said:
I really don't see them spending much as Rodgers have wasted so much money. Also Carragher made some interesting points yesterday about the defensive set up and training than individual players. Rodgers is more interested in training attacking play than set up defensive system.

Also individually Liverpool CBs are not bad at all. Sakho, Lovern and SKrtel are good CBs but it's the system problem.
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Shush. Setting up a defensive system is so easy for Rodgers that he probably just can't be arsed

Liverpool v Chelsea: Brendan Rodgers criticises Jose Mourinho tactics following devastating defeat at Anfield - Telegraph
 
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