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I would probably hire Klopp if it was up to me. It would truly re-energize and lift the entire club heading into next season if he arrives which is what the fan base desperately needs right now with a barren season and Stevie G leaving. Plus Klopps track record speaks for itself. The jury is still out on whether Rodgers can truly cut it at this level or did Suarez make him out to be better than he was last season

I hate this argument simply because before last season people were lamenting Suarez's lack of killer instinct and his poor finishing when he first came to England

It was through his natural talent and the guidance and tactics of Rodgers that got the best out of him last season
 
Its quite defeatist because it is true.

The last two season's we have targeted arguably two of the best players this season in Sanchez and Costa. Both rejected us and in the past its been similar on many occasions where we simply do not having the pulling power of the bigger sides

Combine wages and CL football and we simply have never got both to offer so when a bigger side comes in our pursuit of that player is all but done

I don't think so mate. The reason you lost Sanchez might also be because you dithered a lot allowing arsenal to swoop in and entice him. Not sure why you lost out on costa. Sure you might not be quite there financially but you can still offer a comparable package last season with the lure of CL football and Liverpool as a brand name. The signings were just poor. You could have got someone like Remy but decided to go for the big name in Balotelli. Just poor way of doing business mate
 
I hate this argument simply because before last season people were lamenting Suarez's lack of killer instinct and his poor finishing when he first came to England

It was through his natural talent and the guidance and tactics of Rodgers that got the best out of him last season

Hmm but didn't Suarez score a bucketload of goals in holland before he came. Not too sure you can blame lack of killer instinct and finishing for that. I'll take your word for it nontheless
 
I don't think so mate. The reason you lost Sanchez might also be because you dithered a lot allowing arsenal to swoop in and entice him. Not sure why you lost out on costa. Sure you might not be quite there financially but you can still offer a comparable package last season with the lure of CL football and Liverpool as a brand name. The signings were just poor. You could have got someone like Remy but decided to go for the big name in Balotelli. Just poor way of doing business mate

It was quite documented we offered more wages and the same fee.. he rejected us for Arsenal and London living.. Costa again just rejected us after we matched his release clause

Balotelli and Remy was a completely strange decision and we all said it at the time... we lost out on top targets and had no other option than Remy or Balotelli at the end of the window and still chose the wrong signing haha

Hmm but didn't Suarez score a bucketload of goals in holland before he came. Not too sure you can blame lack of killer instinct and finishing for that. I'll take your word for it nontheless

He did, but so did Kuyt and Kezman to name a few... There was never doubting the lads ability but people are quick to blame Rodgers when the same people said Suarez was not of that level when he first joined
 
It was quite documented we offered more wages and the same fee.. he rejected us for Arsenal and London living.. Costa again just rejected us after we matched his release clause

Balotelli and Remy was a completely strange decision and we all said it at the time... we lost out on top targets and had no other option than Remy or Balotelli at the end of the window and still chose the wrong signing haha



He did, but so did Kuyt and Kezman to name a few... There was never doubting the lads ability but people are quick to blame Rodgers when the same people said Suarez was not of that level when he first joined

Well if you did offer more wages then i don't think the idea that Liverpool are financially miles off the top 4 clubs really stands now does it? Arsenal seem to be in the top 4 every season just fine despite facing similar constraints. I would assume Costa's rationale was that he wanted to stay at Atletico for one more season and then that's when he banged in the goals and Chelsea decided to snag him

Letting remy go was a terrible decision. He would have been excellent for you guys
 
I don't think so mate. The reason you lost Sanchez might also be because you dithered a lot allowing arsenal to swoop in and entice him. Not sure why you lost out on costa. Sure you might not be quite there financially but you can still offer a comparable package last season with the lure of CL football and Liverpool as a brand name. The signings were just poor. You could have got someone like Remy but decided to go for the big name in Balotelli. Just poor way of doing business mate

Sanchez was under no pressure to accept Liverpool offer as Arsenal and Juventus were also involved, he was key player for their team in the World cup and was fully focused on WC rather than thinking about future.

Doesnt matter how quickly Liverpool make their offer, Sanchez agent would offer his client to all big clubs to get the best offer.
 
Well if you did offer more wages then i don't think the idea that Liverpool are financially miles off the top 4 clubs really stands now does it? Arsenal seem to be in the top 4 every season just fine despite facing similar constraints. I would assume Costa's rationale was that he wanted to stay at Atletico for one more season and then that's when he banged in the goals and Chelsea decided to snag him

Letting remy go was a terrible decision. He would have been excellent for you guys

I said the top three... those who's top players are on between 200-250k on average .. Arsenal are a little behind that with Liverpool further still

I agree with Remy, I cant really understand the deal myself
 
I said the top three... those who's top players are on between 200-250k on average .. Arsenal are a little behind that with Liverpool further still

I agree with Remy, I cant really understand the deal myself

Yes but the idea is that you are not completely crowded out of the market for world-class players on a financial basis as you proved yourself regarding Sanchez. I think some of the buys were just poor and could have been better. Remy is but one example
 
what really irks me is rodgers getting all the credit like he is some football messiah for implementing a high pressure system that worked so well for us 2nd hald of last season and to a certain extent some parts of this season. the system was a variation of bielsa philosophy and if you dont know that then you dont really know football. the only philosophy rodgers has is stupid pedestrian tippy tappy stuff that goes no were hence why he prefers allen for this rubbish.
 
what really irks me is rodgers getting all the credit like he is some football messiah for implementing a high pressure system that worked so well for us 2nd hald of last season and to a certain extent some parts of this season. the system was a variation of bielsa philosophy and if you dont know that then you dont really know football. the only philosophy rodgers has is stupid pedestrian tippy tappy stuff that goes no were hence why he prefers allen for this rubbish.

The word "philosophy" is overused in football. But to be honest Rodgers does deserve credit for the way you played last season because in the end he actually got the team playing that way and even my passionate hate for Liverpool couldn't stop me from watching you last season. For me if you can get Klopp then get him, but if not stick with Rodgers.
 
The word "philosophy" is overused in football. But to be honest Rodgers does deserve credit for the way you played last season because in the end he actually got the team playing that way and even my passionate hate for Liverpool couldn't stop me from watching you last season. For me if you can get Klopp then get him, but if not stick with Rodgers.

yes but it was not a style that was not implemented by him specifically, it was only because the players we had required us to play that way. we only implemented it during the christmas period, before that we were extremely lucky to be were we were only due to individual brilliance (sturridge) and lots of 1 nil scrappy wins etc... the same thing again happened this season aswell. in the beggining of the season he reverted back to his useless possesions style rubbish that doesnt suit the players and we suffered for it. we only went on our winning streak this season when he changed it up and went high pressure system. the question is why does he keep making the same mistake over and over again. if we keep him for next season whats to stop him from reverting back and having a slow start to the season once again.
 
The word "philosophy" is overused in football. But to be honest Rodgers does deserve credit for the way you played last season because in the end he actually got the team playing that way and even my passionate hate for Liverpool couldn't stop me from watching you last season. For me if you can get Klopp then get him, but if not stick with Rodgers.

Couldn't like this enough - It's easy to blame Rodgers for faults but not praise him for the positives... Last season was some of the best football I've ever seen Liverpool play
 
Couldn't like this enough - It's easy to blame Rodgers for faults but not praise him for the positives... Last season was some of the best football I've ever seen Liverpool play

exactly, we also played good football this season as well for a certain period. but tell me this lfcmarshall what if rodgers makes the same mistake next season aswell and doesnt play to the strength of the players and instead reverts back to his bs way of playing. what then.
 
exactly, we also played good football this season as well for a certain period. but tell me this lfcmarshall what if rodgers makes the same mistake next season aswell and doesnt play to the strength of the players and instead reverts back to his bs way of playing. what then.

What if it reverts back to last season and we challenge for the league. what then.
 
true. so why didnt he do that at the beggining of this season and the season before. same mistakes each season.

Personal available, signings adjusting, injuries.. there are many potential reasons as to why the style of played changed
 
Personal available, signings adjusting, injuries.. there are many potential reasons as to why the style of played changed

you see it as that, i see it as he doesnt learn from his mistakes. all of the things mentioned above apart from injuries doesnt mean he has to go back to his useless philosophy. certain signings could have been avoided, apart from suarez the core team which did the pressing were still there. we could through many factors in but the bottom line is there is a chance he could revert and we cant have another season of being also rans, as it would mean returning to mid table finishes again.
 
Liverpool fans shouldn't forget the fact that last season was a massive leap for you, from finishing 7th to challenging for the title and finishing 2nd. In all honesty as good as Rodgers did last season it kind of didn't do him any favours either because suddenly that weight of expectation was massive. Also any team is going to struggle when they don't properly replace a man who scored 30+ goals for them.
 
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