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Finally someone understanding him! It still astounds me when people take his comments seriously and complain about them! Everything is a mind game with Jose!!!! By saying the ref got the decisions correct and praising them he maybe is thinking "this will get them on our side". Everything he says he says for a reason, he is a very very intelligent man.

It's not that people don't get him. I think people dislike the way the media choose to use the obvious rubbish he talks as though it's serious. Chelsea get such an easy ride, it's far to easy for him to deflect things by just being Jose.
 
And no one blamed Chelsea or Jose for not completing the transfer which was odd.

ManUtd wanted Fabregas and made low bid initially, people made fun of Moyes and woodword. Jose and Chelsea did same thing for Rooney and it was considered as mind games. Journalists in UK really love him.

To be fair, you are comparing apples and oranges
 
Why does it matter what the media says? Journalists make mistakes, they have biases etc, just like the rest of us. They're just people at the end of the day, if idiots are willing to see them as definitive experts than that's their problem. I don't think anyone here is that silly...

The reasons the British press like Jose are obvious. He's smart, suave and charming: the kind of man that can present himself as a shining example of European grace even when he's slinging mud and poking eyes. In Italy, they also lap that **** up but in Spain, where his media presence was weakest, his cockiness and origins were less of an exotic enchantment and more of an annoyance. It's hardly a coincidence: the man has obviously constructed this persona to wrap the press around his finger and it's worked.

Jose is rather like Brian Clough in many ways, which is why the media in this country will always lap him up. He makes sure to know the important reporters, ask about their families, remember the little things. He always stirs up controversy (which sells papers) and, perhaps most importantly when it's 10pm a wet Tuesday night and you just want to go home, he's always good for a quote. The last point may sound so unimportant, but if you've ever interviewed someone for publication you'll know that you naturally warm to the ones who aren't just informative (aka AVB; his press conferences are fascinating but not especially useful) but also contain those 3 or 4 wonderful little quotes for you to build your article around.

"Now", you might say, "that's wrong; journalists should always be trying to get the best information and stay impartial!" In theory yes, but in reality no. You have an editor and, especially in the digital era, a bunch of snappy subs looking for traffic and they don't want to print AVB's 30 minute tactical analysis, they want a controversial Jose soundbite. The reason they do that is because that's what sells. If you want to see higher standards of journalism in the news, then stop buying the papers that print trash and support the ones who offer greater analysis, because they'll keep printing **** as long as the public is willing to gobble it up.
 
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Finally someone understanding him! It still astounds me when people take his comments seriously and complain about them! Everything is a mind game with Jose!!!! By saying the ref got the decisions correct and praising them he maybe is thinking "this will get them on our side". Everything he says he says for a reason, he is a very very intelligent man.

Everybody knows what Jose is doing, just Chelsea fans stick up for him no matter what.

The English media are particular suck ups for him. In Spain and Italy the silly lies and over exaggerations didn't have no where near the effect it has here
 
Everybody knows what Jose is doing, just Chelsea fans stick up for him no matter what.

The English media are particular suck ups for him. In Spain and Italy the silly lies and over exaggerations didn't have no where near the effect it has here

Every manager does what Jose is doing, deflecting attention away from controversial decisions which benefited their team and what not... It's just that none of them can do it quite as well as Jose can
 
This whole "because mind games" excuse is getting ridiculous. Mind games was when Ferguson said Van Persie was about to die.

This? This is simply bullshit. It was dangerous play, knee high contact like this is madness, and should not be so easily dismissed with Jose's fantasy fiction. But then maybe I have too high standards , like not poking people in the eye.
 
Every manager does what Jose is doing, deflecting attention away from controversial decisions which benefited their team and what not... It's just that none of them can do it quite as well as Jose can

Sure every manager deflects away at times but most also accept things and take them as they are.

Jose has just been doing the same silly **** for so long most people just either ignore it or enjoy it. The media have a field day with it because he's full of charisma and it gives them something to write about a lot of neutrals will enjoy it too because he's different from so many other managers.

The thing is though it's not great mind games, he does it all the time so it's obvious what he's doing. Any manager or senior player/figure at a club will just look past what he says because it's the same **** he always does.


Trying to play the field all the time doesn't make you a smart guy.
 
I think he's smart enough to understand if he can turn the new Chief Executive and Manager's focus inwards at their club, then it will weaken their potential dealings. Constantly talking about buying and respecting a player you want is useful, but doing it to your "in-transition" rivals is certainly more likely to turn heads. The trick to 'mind games' is you need to engineer it so that regardless of the outcome you manage to gain something positive from it.

I suspect there was a bit of "knocking Utd when they were down" but i genuinely believe he wanted Rooney and by speaking out publicly it put the ball in Rooney's court.

No doubt he's a very clever man, and yes, he does do mind games a lot, but not everything he says will be tactical. Don't take this the wrong way, but some of you Chelsea fans thing he's God reincarnated, and that he can see into the future. A lot of his comments will be tactical, but sometimes, you have to remember, he does speak as a human being too.

Not everything but be tactical okay i agree but when it isn't its sticking up for his club, he lays his life down for the club he is managing. I know he is not god he makes mistakes but what i like is he admits when he makes mistakes, my personal opinion is that Ancelotti was better for Chelsea.

Rooney was unsettled about 8 months before that. Even when Jose made his final stance, Rooney stayed, and is playing the best football in about 4 years. I know some fans (not you) want to claim mind games over the Rooney saga, but Jose was a sideshow. The actual "mind games" were between Rooney, United, and Ferguson....

Even without his chirping on it was going down like that anyway.

Not everything with Jose is mind games. Sometimes its just hogwash. Difference is many people in Spain simply saw through it. Here people lap it up. Still.

They did in Spain but there was also a crowed of people who did value him and see him for what he is.

It's not that people don't get him. I think people dislike the way the media choose to use the obvious rubbish he talks as though it's serious. Chelsea get such an easy ride, it's far to easy for him to deflect things by just being Jose.

Well that's the media's problem and i'll admit i crease up at some of the press conferences i see. Having said that i don't think the media have much choice, i believe Jose is the master in creating his own press-conference.

Everybody knows what Jose is doing, just Chelsea fans stick up for him no matter what.

The English media are particular suck ups for him. In Spain and Italy the silly lies and over exaggerations didn't have no where near the effect it has here

I'd agree slightly with his time in Spain but Italy realized what they had lost very quickly as did the premiership when he went. For me i have always believed you wouldn't properly know what he is like until he manages your club. To have a man who is as tactically sensational who can walk the walk and talk the talk and stick up for your club is amazing.
 
Everybody knows what Jose is doing, just Chelsea fans stick up for him no matter what.

The English media are particular suck ups for him. In Spain and Italy the silly lies and over exaggerations didn't have no where near the effect it has here

but any fans that had a manager with a home record like mourinho has would stick up for him too espec. pool fans lol :)
 
This whole "because mind games" excuse is getting ridiculous. Mind games was when Ferguson said Van Persie was about to die.

This? This is simply bullshit. It was dangerous play, knee high contact like this is madness, and should not be so easily dismissed with Jose's fantasy fiction. But then maybe I have too high standards , like not poking people in the eye.

You sound like a very confused child to me ... Attacking Jose when in all likelihood you should be angry at the media

Sure every manager deflects away at times but most also accept things and take them as they are.

Jose has just been doing the same silly **** for so long most people just either ignore it or enjoy it. The media have a field day with it because he's full of charisma and it gives them something to write about a lot of neutrals will enjoy it too because he's different from so many other managers.

The thing is though it's not great mind games, he does it all the time so it's obvious what he's doing. Any manager or senior player/figure at a club will just look past what he says because it's the same **** he always does.


Trying to play the field all the time doesn't make you a smart guy.

No manager in the world will say 'oh yeah I agree that should have been a red card and we should have lost the game' but judging by some of you here, that's exactly what you expect from Jose

I think it's pretty clear what's going on ... Jose managed to spin some absolutely wayward story about Suarez diving which dominated the headlines instead of Eto's foul and what not which got all your knickers in a twist. In this case, I feel the blame lies more with the media and the reputation Suarez has created for himself instead of Jose who just did what any manager in the world would do, deflect attention away!
 
To be fair, you are comparing apples and oranges

Tbh I'm not.

Every manager does what Jose is doing, deflecting attention away from controversial decisions which benefited their team and what not... It's just that none of them can do it quite as well as Jose can

Jose spouts so much non sense, it's just that UK media thinks everything he says is some diverting tactics.

No manager in the world will say 'oh yeah I agree that should have been a red card and we should have lost the game' but judging by some of you here, that's exactly what you expect from Jose

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Tbh I'm not.



Jose spouts so much non sense, it's just that UK media thinks everything he says is some diverting tactics.



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Tbh you are and kudos for finding one manager compared to the hundreds all around the world who would do the opposite
 
Jose's a ****, that's not new news, but I'm a bit bored watching all of you sling **** at each other. Can we move on?

Hull today! Hope we **** 'em after the other month. Their big threat is from Huddlestone.
 
You sound like a very confused child to me ... Attacking Jose when in all likelihood you should be angry at the media



No manager in the world will say 'oh yeah I agree that should have been a red card and we should have lost the game' but judging by some of you here, that's exactly what you expect from Jose

I think it's pretty clear what's going on ... Jose managed to spin some absolutely wayward story about Suarez diving which dominated the headlines instead of Eto's foul and what not which got all your knickers in a twist. In this case, I feel the blame lies more with the media and the reputation Suarez has created for himself instead of Jose who just did what any manager in the world would do, deflect attention away!

He's managed to spin the story? I don't think I've seen anyone who actually believes what Mourinho's said. Apart from the plastics, of course.
 
He's managed to spin the story? I don't think I've seen anyone who actually believes what Mourinho's said. Apart from the plastics, of course.

Jesus well done for missing the point completely. But then again maybe I expected too much from someone still stuck living in the past ;)
 
Need to get back on track today.. could make some points up with teams around us having hard games also.

Interesting that Aspas gets a start, big game for him
 
Need to get back on track today.. could make some points up with teams around us having hard games also.

Interesting that Aspas gets a start, big game for him

Daggers just put us ahead. Haven't saw anything in Aspas since we bought him. Think something just needs to go for him before we see the real him. He needs to stop whinging all the time though!



Jesus well done for missing the point completely. But then again maybe I expected too much from someone still stuck living in the past ;)

Congrats on making a completely irrelevant comment. Now go wave your plastic flag at the tv.
 
Congrats on making a completely irrelevant comment. Now go wave your plastic flag at the tv.

Sorry if you found it irrelevant, I found that to talk to an idiot and make him understand you , you need to descend to their level hence the my irrelevant reply to your misguided post
 
Good professional win, if not the best of performances... just a shame about Everton and Arsenal late goals, although good run of fixtures for us coming up
 
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