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Not getting into another round of bunkum on Rodgers and last years mid season 'run.'
 
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It's a business to them and perhaps the aim from the start was to turn a profit when selling the club... At least they're no Hicks and Gillet
FSG have invested huge sums into LFC which will never be repaid. After Hicks and Gillet, FSG went crazy in the wallet and players like Carroll, Henderson and Downing amassed a £80 million net spend in his first year. The reason they get so much stick is because too many Liverpool signings over the years have been dire. Anybody that has a clue about football clubs being run as businesses, know that football clubs are no more than toys. Anybody with enough money to buy a large football club knows that football clubs are suicidal for one wanting to make a profit from them and investment is way too risky as the more money out in = more inflation. FSG have come in, invested a load of money and are now willing to invest in infrastructure, such as a new stadium.
 
Express reporting City will meet Liverpool's 50million valuation for Sterling this week with them desperate to sign a home-grown 'star'

If this is true, Liverpool have played an absolute blinder.
 
Express reporting City will meet Liverpool's 50million valuation for Sterling this week with them desperate to sign a home-grown 'star'

If this is true, Liverpool have played an absolute blinder.

I think it's more to do with the fact that City have completely ****** up their squad construction over the past few seasons that they are having to pay massively over the odds to get homegrown players
 
I think it's more to do with the fact that City have completely ****** up their squad construction over the past few seasons that they are having to pay massively over the odds to get homegrown players

Of course - But Liverpool are getting 50million for a player nowhere near the finished article. Superb business
 
Of course - But Liverpool are getting 50million for a player nowhere near the finished article. Superb business

If Sterling develops as he should, he will easily be worth 50 million in a few years. If I were you, I would be worried that the best players are leaving making it harder for Liverpool to get back into the CL. Sets a dangerous precedent for players like Coutinho to angle for moves away if things don't turn out well
 
Of course - But Liverpool are getting 50million for a player nowhere near the finished article. Superb business

It's only good business if reinvested well. I wouldnt be overly convinced given FSGs record.
 
If Sterling develops as he should, he will easily be worth 50 million in a few years. If I were you, I would be worried that the best players are leaving making it harder for Liverpool to get back into the CL. Sets a dangerous precedent for players like Coutinho to angle for moves away if things don't turn out well

The precedent was set years ago... Unless we start giving players more money it is going to continue and seeing as we are unlikely to do so getting the best value is the next best thing

I was absolutely gutted when Torres left, I was devastated when Suarez left... I'm merely thinking the lad can be replaced in regards to Sterling - potential or not
 
It's only good business if reinvested well. I wouldnt be overly convinced given FSGs record.

That's certainly true... But in either case, it is a player who is doesn't want to be here and getting 50 million for him is still very good
 
The precedent was set years ago... Unless we start giving players more money it is going to continue and seeing as we are unlikely to do so getting the best value is the next best thing

I was absolutely gutted when Torres left, I was devastated when Suarez left... I'm merely thinking the lad can be replaced in regards to Sterling - potential or not

Come on now, sure wages is one thing but Sterling definitely doesn't look like he is leaving because he isn't getting enough money. It's about trophies and playing alongside top players and learning from a experienced manager
 
Of course - But Liverpool are getting 50million for a player nowhere near the finished article. Superb business

QPR did good job with their 20% sell on clause. They are getting 10 Million kitty.

Still massive money for someone yet to achieve anything. For this reason alone I would rather United buy from foreign league than PL except for squad fillers.
 
QPR did good job with their 20% sell on clause. They are getting 10 Million kitty.

Still massive money for someone yet to achieve anything. For this reason alone I would rather United buy from foreign league than PL except for squad fillers.

Yep. On the odd occasion these sell on clauses really bare fruit.

English players are ridiculously overpriced so it's not surprise most the big signings made are foreign players
 
Come on now, sure wages is one thing but Sterling definitely doesn't look like he is leaving because he isn't getting enough money. It's about trophies and playing alongside top players and learning from a experienced manager

This all started because of money... what's happened since has made him come out with this. The main point from the first offer was that Sterling was worth more than that

Had Liverpool offered 120k say from the start, he would be tied down to a long-term contract now
 
I was absolutely gutted when Torres left, I was devastated when Suarez left... I'm merely thinking the lad can be replaced in regards to Sterling - potential or not

My thoughts exactly.50mil for a talent even for a very good one is a fantastic deal. Especially for one of his character.
 
Come on now, sure wages is one thing but Sterling definitely doesn't look like he is leaving because he isn't getting enough money. It's about trophies and playing alongside top players and learning from a experienced manager

That's his new line that he wants everyone to believe to try dig himself out of the hole he's put himself in.

It's been more than a strong rumour locally (confirmed by a couple of beat guys who are close to the team on a daily basis) that Raheem started to make ruptions last summer about wanting out of the North West and to return back to London. Now he's seemingly on the verge of moving 35 miles down the road to Manchester. WELL out of the North West and back down South right? All after turning down, at a mere 20 years of age at a club that consistently rips up young contracts as players progress before they're up and bumps up wages as they go, £100 K a week.

But it's not about the money? Do us a freaking favour!

It's ALL about the money and the delusional opinion he has of himself as a top player. Whether that's down to his **** agent, or the ridiculous OTT hype that goes along with any young English player who shows anything down to the complete dirth of top bracket talent in this Country I don't know; but he's FAR from that.

Raheem Sterling may turn into a very good, consistent footballer at the top level. But at present, all he is, is young inconsistent potential. He's had three VERY up and down years at the top level. The only time he really shone consistently was the second half of the season 2 years ago when the team was flying and he had Suarez and Sturridge occupying opposing defenders freeing him up. (After he'd been so poor the first half of that year he ended up getting dropped after the disgrace at Hull before Christmas.). When that's not been there, and the onus has been on him to deliver, it's been a completely different story. He's all pace and little else the majority of the time. His finishing is woeful. He's very one footed. And his final ball/ decision has been terrible more often than not. Yeah, I could do you a YouTube montage of great Sterling plays. But watch him on a consistent basis up close and you'll soon realise the hype to the extent it's gotten is unwarranted. Saying he's one of Liverpool's top players isn't saying much.

Converse that to Jordan Ibe. (A kid the coaches at Anfield have consistently praised as being better then Raheem at every level since he's been at the club.). He's been loaned out on more than one occasion without complaint as he just wants to progress. He's signed a new extension without any fuss (with his parents representing him); just happy to be at the club and not getting greedy above his age/ current worth. And he's coming in early this pre-season, completely off his own back, to continue to hone his craft and improve. EVERYTHING Raheem ISN'T.

And there's been some seriously scandalous reporting on the club/ Rodgers leaking things to try railroad him into signing/ not standing up for him. The club gets a lot wrong of late for which I'll readily slam them for. But they've been spot on the way they've handled this and ALL the controversy has been of Sterlings OWN making. I have a lot of issues with Rodgers, but I really feel for him on this. He's gone out of his way to work with him and build him up. (Even now continuing to speak highly of him when that's FAR from what Sterlings attitude deserves.) He must feel like the kids stabbed him in the back.

Unless theres a MASSIVE about turn in both his attitude and consistency to his game, Sterling is about to find out he's not half as big a player as his delusions have him believe he is and he won't play nearly as many games for City as he did for Liverpool.

I, like most reds, aren't bothered one iota that he's probably staying in the BPL. For we know he's nothing like the £50 million player the club are skanking City on.

We're just MORE than happy to get the jumped up lil' **** out of our football club!
 
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On one hand if we're speculating Manchester City will come back with a 50m valuation offer for Sterling I'd agree it is fantastically done.

However the more likely scenario as I see it at the moment is that you've been too greedy and blown the chance of getting still an exceptionally good price £40million for a player who hasn't proved hardly anything in the game as of yet apart from one good season. That was supposedly Manchester City's last offer so you should of known that they probably won't come back and take that kind of money while you could. No one else will offer that so I think you may have missed your opportunity, only hope is that Manchester City were bluffing and they are stupid enough to come back with more, but even for them, I doubt it.
 
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QPR did good job with their 20% sell on clause. They are getting 10 Million kitty.

Still massive money for someone yet to achieve anything. For this reason alone I would rather United buy from foreign league than PL except for squad fillers.

Yeah, the English 'premium' that continues to go on every English talent is beyond scandalous.

I get why Utd and L'pool are dragging their feet on Clyne after the way Southampton raped both last summer.
 
On one hand if we're speculating Manchester City will come back with a 50m valuation offer for Sterling I'd agree it is fantastically done.

However the more likely scenario as I see it at the moment is that you've been too greedy and blown the chance of getting still an exceptionally good price £40million for a player who hasn't proved hardly anything in the game as of yet apart from one good season. That was supposedly Manchester City's last offer so you should of known that they probably won't come back and take that kind of money while you could. No one else will offer that so I think you may have missed your opportunity, only hope is that Manchester City wee bluffing and they are stupid enough to come back with more, but even for them, I doubt it.

It's a dodgy poker game of who blinks first no question, but City appear that desperate for homegrown players that I can honestly see them eventually paying the full 50.

****, the offered Milner a ridiculous amount in wages for what was ostensibly a squad player so desperate are they to add to their quota.

City's own circumstances have us holding them over a barrel on this one.
 
On one hand if we're speculating Manchester City will come back with a 50m valuation offer for Sterling I'd agree it is fantastically done.

However the more likely scenario as I see it at the moment is that you've been too greedy and blown the chance of getting still an exceptionally good price £40million for a player who hasn't proved hardly anything in the game as of yet apart from one good season. That was supposedly Manchester City's last offer so you should of known that they probably won't come back and take that kind of money while you could. No one else will offer that so I think you may have missed your opportunity, only hope is that Manchester City were bluffing and they are stupid enough to come back with more, but even for them, I doubt it.

Very rarely are last offers actually last offers... Tie together City's desperation for the signing along with reports breaking last that City will match the valuation

I personally think its a matter of when than if now
 
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