The Liverpool Thread

[sunilvk7]

The ref really should of stopped the game on Arsenal's first equaliser. That's the mandate now isn't it? Any head injury and play gets stopped immediately? Big clash of heads. Giroud down for the count. Sakho stumbling around seeing stars. What more do you need? The fact Sakho didn't do the smart thing and go to ground like Giroud shouldn't come into it.

Not so much bothered it was allowed to stand as the subsequent defending and goalkeeping was real poor. (Although Sakho was a part of that.).

Just continues to be disturbing how officials STILL aren't IMMEDIATELY stopping the game when there's a threat of a head injury and concussion after a clash like that. To not put too finer point on it, football, as much as they say the right things on the concussion issue; are a sport that continues to put players lives at risk out on the field.

It was in the final third, no ref will stop the game at that moment. If they do then defenders will always use that as a tactic to defend when they lose the header in final third. Just collapse for few seconds, ref will stop immediately and then game restarts.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Very much doubt it given what he had to say after the match Tuesday, but I really hope Utd come out and attack Sunday. That'll play right into our hands.

If Van Gaal reverts back to this seasons type and sits deep with 2 holding midfielders it could well be a long day breaking them down.

 

[sunilvk7]

Very much doubt it given what he had to say after the match Tuesday, but I really hope Utd come out and attack Sunday. That'll play right into our hands.

If Van Gaal reverts back to this seasons type and sits deep with 2 holding midfielders it could well be a long day breaking them down.

Sit deep? There is someone who haven't watched United at all.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

It was in the final third, no ref will stop the game at that moment. If they do then defenders will always use that as a tactic to defend when they lose the header in final third. Just collapse for few seconds, ref will stop immediately and then game restarts.

Which is a problem in itself. Shouldn't matter here on the pitch a bad clash of heads occurs. And it should be immaterial that Sakho didn't do the smart thing and go down like Giroud instead of trying to do his 'brave warrior' act and carry on.

Football is either going to treat the concussion issue as seriously life threatening as it potentially is or not at all. You can't half *** on head injuries. And it's the full gambit. The number of players that have been allowed to continue whilst concussed after treatment is still scandalous. Not just in a particular game, but to return within a couple of days playing. There needs clear, defined protocol that needs to be strictly adhered to.

For all the mega money at play, it's incredulous that football is still one of the worst sports on head injuries.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Sit deep? There is someone who haven't watched United at all.

Your two holding midfielders haven't sat deep the majority of games this year?

We both must be watching different United games.

 

[sunilvk7]

Which is a problem in itself. Shouldn't matter here on the pitch a bad clash of heads occurs. And it should be immaterial that Sakho didn't do the smart thing and go down like Giroud instead of trying to do his 'brave warrior' act and carry on.

Football is either going to treat the concussion issue as seriously life threatening as it potentially is or not at all. You can't half *** on head injuries. And it's the full gambit. The number of players that have been allowed to continue whilst concussed after treatment is still scandalous. Not just in a particular game, but to return within a couple of days playing. There needs clear, defined protocol that needs to be strictly adhered to.

For all the mega money at play, it's incredulous that football is still one of the worst sports on head injuries.

IIRC there is already set of rules for concussion starting last season, like I said clash of heads doesn't mean ref will stop the game immediately. It's grey area and ref should apply common sense and in this case he did.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

IIRC there is already set of rules for concussion starting last season, like I said clash of heads doesn't mean ref will stop the game immediately. It's grey area and ref should apply common sense and in this case he did.

Exactly football's contradiction to this. You can't have a 'grey area' within a supposed protocol for dealing with head injuries.

It's half assed when it shouldn't be.

 

[sunilvk7]

Your two holding midfielders haven't sat deep the majority of games this year?

We both must be watching different United games.

Eh? Except Schweinsteger is not a holding mid and you should check their average position on the pitch.

United don't sit deep, they push very high up but team is usually clueless to open up the defense, so they just pass it around in the opposition half.

There are many valid criticisms for this United team but using something that is made up look very small time and silly. United don't create enough chances, United midfielders lack imagination, United players don't take risks are all valid one. Saying they play with 2 holding Mid or they sit deeper is just nonsense.

 

[sunilvk7]

Exactly football's contradiction to this. You can't have a 'grey area' within a supposed protocol for dealing with head injuries.

It's half assed when it shouldn't be.

Like I said common sense.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Eh? Except Schweinsteger is not a holding mid and you should check their average position on the pitch.

United don't sit deep, they push very high up but team is usually clueless to open up the defense, so they just pass it around in the opposition half.

There are many valid criticisms for this United team but using something that is made up look very small time and silly. United don't create enough chances, United midfielders lack imagination, United players don't take risks are all valid one. Saying they play with 2 holding Mid or they sit deeper is just nonsense.

Right. To save you arguing for the next 5 pages to have the last word as is your want, you haven't played with 2 holding midfielders. They haven't been deep. Or anything else you don't agree with. Everything is just made up and I thank you for correcting me

Just please, do 'push very high up' Sunday. It will play completely into our hands.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Like I said common sense.

If your view of a 'common sense' approach to a big clash of heads with one man down in a heap and the other stumbling around is to play on, then I hope you or nobody that matters to you ever has a head injury that you might well leave untreated going off that.

 

[sunilvk7]

Right. To save you arguing for the next 5 pages to have the last word as is your want, you haven't played with 2 holding midfielders. They haven't been deep. Or anything else you don't agree with. Everything is just made up and I thank you for correcting me

Just please, do 'push very high up' Sunday. It will play completely into our hands.

Embarrassing..

 

[sunilvk7]

If your view of a 'common sense' approach to a big clash of heads with one man down in a heap and the other stumbling around is to play on, then I hope you or nobody that matters to you ever has a head injury that you might well leave untreated going off that.

Yeah, all we want to see is defenders going down as a defensive tactic whenever they lose header in the final third. Clash of heads is like hand ball, it's grey area and ref should use common sense when to stop and when not to.

 

[Subtle]

You two need to just **** already and get it over with.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Yeah, all we want to see is defenders going down as a defensive tactic whenever they lose header in the final third. Clash of heads is like hand ball, it's grey area and ref should use common sense when to stop and when not to.

Did you just equate a clash of heads (with potential concussion, that if ignored could potentially lead to death) to a hand ball? Both 'grey areas' for the referee's discretion?

Man, with *** backward rhetoric like that you should work for FIFA.

 

[sunilvk7]

Did you just equate a clash of heads (with potential concussion, that if ignored could potentially lead to death) to a hand ball? Both 'grey areas' for the referee's discretion?

Man, with *** backward rhetoric like that you should work for FIFA.

Yeah that's what I did. *facepalm*

Saying clash of heads is grey area like hand ball means both are same(impactwise) isn't it. With the brain like yours, you should just sit at home

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Yeah that's what I did. *facepalm*

Saying clash of heads is grey area like hand ball means both are same isn't it. With the brain like yours, you should just sit at home

Dude, seriously, you can continue to insult away if it makes you feel better. Presumably it must as this is how you often end up with various posters.

But it doesn't take way from anything you've just posted the last 15 minutes or so and how flippantly you're treating a very serious issue.

But hey, as you continue to run with 'potential cheating defenders in the last third line' and in efffect condoning the grey area the law makers have created when there should be NONE if they were serious about setting down a protocol to deal with head injuries from all aspects then it really is pointless even trying to continue a discussion with you on this.

So I won't.

 

[sunilvk7]

Dude, seriously, you can continue to insult away if it makes you feel better. Presumably it must as this is how you often end up with various posters.

But it doesn't take way from anything you've just posted the last 15 minutes or so and how flippantly you're treating a very serious issue.

But hey, as you continue to run with 'potential cheating defenders in the last third line' and in efffect condoning the grey area the law makers have created when there should be NONE if they were serious about setting down a protocol to deal with head injuries from all aspects then it really is pointless even trying to continue a discussion with you on this.

So I won't.

Yeah clash of head means the game should be stopped at that instant, like that will work.

Yeah, it's grey area and it's up to Ref when to stop the game. Just like in Liverpool vs Arsenal game, ref did well not stopping the game as there wasn't anything serious to stop the game.

So, yes. I condone the law makers for leaving space for common sense and consider your opinion as unrealistic and make the game even worse.

Refs have done well when it comes to clash of heads, anything serious they have stopped the game for treatment. Not sure what the problem is.

 

[Average Joe]

I feel like I've had a recent head injury reading these posts lads!

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

..... Just like in Liverpool vs Arsenal game, ref did well not stopping the game as there wasn't anything serious to stop the game.....

One fella' slumped out on the ground, the other stumbling around in a daze who then slumps the ground. Both who needed treatment. Well done ref for playing on. Nothing serious to see here. Not even the slightest hint of any head injuries in that clash.

And there DEFO ended that discussion.