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LFCMarshall said:
Worse position in terms of this season's standings, but a lot better of in nearly every other aspect
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No manager. With no top ones out there. A squad overhaul needed. Quite probably no European football at all.

The problems there run deep. Don't see how they are a more attractive proposition if you're a player looking at the future let alone now.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
No manager. With no top ones out there. A squad overhaul needed. Quite probably no European football at all.

The problems there run deep. Don't see how they are a more attractive proposition if you're a player looking at the future let alone now.
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I would say a large majority of players would be more keen to join Chelsea than Liverpool, even now. Chelsea are in a slump this season, but barring the odd season Liverpool have been in one for 10 years

No matter how much Klopp may improve Liverpool, we are still currently a very average Prem team on the verge of no european qualification ourselves
 
LFCMarshall said:
I would say a large majority of players would be more keen to join Chelsea than Liverpool, even now. Chelsea are in a slump this season, but barring the odd season Liverpool have been in one for 10 years

No matter how much Klopp may improve Liverpool, we are still currently a very average Prem team on the verge of no european qualification ourselves
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All opinion but I personally think you're selling the respective situations short for the future.

We have the manager in place, and a plan moving forward.

They are going in the other direction.

Again, no manger. Nobody out there unless they know something on Pep that nobody else does. A squad that needs an overhaul. Absolutely no guarantee they'll be straight back up the very top end of the table next year. If they're still in the top division. They have deep set problems.

We may not have the players currently, but we have the manager in place that players want to play for and signs already that his way will work when he has a more consistent, better calibre of players.

If we're talking Arsenal or City it would be another thing again. But I just don't see Chelsea's prospects being any brighter going forward than ourselves at all.
 
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Bujakaa said:
Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp is speaking to the media, and he's thrown his support behind striker Christian Benteke after a disappointing midweek performance against Exeter: "Everyone could see he was involved in two of the three goals. He's working hard. His attitude was really good."

Anyone who saw match is it true that he was involved?
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Watch the highlights and see If you can spot an out of place lampost on a football pitch. There's your answer.
 
LFCMarshall said:
Remind anyone of a certain Willian?

There does seem a similar feel to this one with Chelsea sniffing around again, but Liverpool seem to be the most advanced and keen to get it done. Hopefully the likes of Klopp and our Brazilian players will prove a useful tool to lure him!

By reports last night it could take a similar deal to that of Firmino.. mid 20's up front and then add-ons based on success up to around 30mil
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Chelsea were the original club to be fair. Liverpool ahead because they are the only club to actually make a bid
 
Bujakaa said:
Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp is speaking to the media, and he's thrown his support behind striker Christian Benteke after a disappointing midweek performance against Exeter: "Everyone could see he was involved in two of the three goals. He's working hard. His attitude was really good."

Anyone who saw match is it true that he was involved?
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He played the ball through the edge the box for Smith to set up the opener. And he played a great ball through for Texieira to bag the third. I'd completely disagree that he was either 'working hard', or that his 'attitude was really good.' But as he's not going anywhere until the summer at least, the manager would be foolish to not try gee him up publicly and speak well of him.

This is a pretty good article on his game Wednesday .....

Player Focus: Christian Benteke vs. Exeter City - Good outside the box, missing inside it - This Is Anfield
 
Bujakaa said:
Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp is speaking to the media, and he's thrown his support behind striker Christian Benteke after a disappointing midweek performance against Exeter: "Everyone could see he was involved in two of the three goals. He's working hard. His attitude was really good."

Anyone who saw match is it true that he was involved?
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He played a great 1-2 with Brad Smith for the first goal and made the goal almost himself for the 3rd... His positional play wasn't the best and his movement quite poor again, but he did have an impact.

Of course he can improve - and alot, but in my opinion there was to a certain degree a pre-conceived perception of Benteke before the game was even played that many fans were adamant on.

His style is not suited to us at all - for his size and physical attributes it's quite clear he chooses to look for the pull back each time the ball is wide, which causes alot of the problems
 
Bujakaa said:
Then stop talking like he is wordl class striker. Dont get it. I understand u cant talk very bad about players. Also being new manager. But still backing up and talking lies is not the right way to.
I think 15mil and he is gone in summer.

Even without looking at the game i knew he was praising wrongly.
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Was this directed at Scouse or.....?
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
YW bud. Getting little done today. This IS exciting news lol.

From knowing absolutely jack about him, I'm all Alexed out from reading and watching haha.
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tbh im in the same boat dont know alot about him but whenever we seem to spend big money on someone they never seem to be worth the money at the minute firmino is still hit and miss, benteke well wrong player for the style i think the last big signing which worked out was suarez and before that torres i just wish we would invest in a striker like that fast can dribble someone who will excite you not more AM, easier said that done but we can dream
 
Dannybell2011 said:
tbh im in the same boat dont know alot about him but whenever we seem to spend big money on someone they never seem to be worth the money at the minute firmino is still hit and miss, benteke well wrong player for the style i think the last big signing which worked out was suarez and before that torres i just wish we would invest in a striker like that fast can dribble someone who will excite you not more AM, easier said that done but we can dream
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I presume it's down to who we want, who's currently available out of that without talking stupid January money, and who's the best solution to add some much needed goals right here, right now and who will be an integral part of the first XI going forward.

I would anticipate we'll be going all in on a major striker this summer who can be relied on to lead the line and score goals.

Realistically, presuming Benteke is moved on as everything points to, we have one top draw striker who still has a MAJOR question mark over his health; one good centre-forward we know can do well at this level and whom is still young enough to mould and develop in Ings; and the young prospect in Origi who is finally beginning to justify the hype the more experience he gets. And that's it. We've some very good prospects who look like they'll be very good back-up squad players next year who'll play the cups coming through but absolutely nothing in the striking ranks. Sinclair could of been that man but after being left on the bench Wednesday and getting a VERY public callout from his manager over wanting too much, too soon, following on from turning down the contract; you havre to think he's f-ed himself and is done as regards ever playing the first team again.

So at least one striker, not least a top one, is definitely a priority I agree. But I'd honestly rather wait until we can get someone who we really want. If that means the summer, so be it. If we do sort out Texeira, and they seem pretty confident they will, then hopefully he can add enough goals to ignite things. We start adding them, and that fourth spot is still there for the taking yet.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
A squad that needs an overhaul. Absolutely no guarantee they'll be straight back up the very top end of the table next year. If they're still in the top division. They have deep set problems.


If we're talking Arsenal or City it would be another thing again. But I just don't see Chelsea's prospects being any brighter going forward than ourselves at all.
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Imperative we win today. Put a run of wins together and the top 4 comes flying back into play. Continue to drop points and the league season peter's out to what most pundits expected last summer.

Funny, for a ground we've not lost at since 1993, playing a very poor team quite possibly heading back from where they came; nobody's got much confidence we're demo gonna' win down to the fact we can't score for ****. Be nice to just do our jobs and roll over a team we should comfortably. Get back to what it should be at places like Norwich. Not are L'pool going to win today. But by how many are L'pool going to win today.

I doubt we start like this, but I'd love to see 2 wingers out there with Ojo given his head. Wouldn't even mind Texeira run out. Or Allen played further forward as he has been of late to great effect. He certainly deserves to start on form alone. Leaving out the likes of the hard working but completely ineffective Lallana and Milner. And if he's upto speed fitness wise, Caulker out there. His arial ability might well work wonders back there.

Start of a MASSIVE week in league and both cups. Let's start it the right way boys and comfortably beat a team we should for once.
 
Ugh. Lucas, Can, Milner all in the same team again and Ojo not even on the bench. All good, hard working players. (Can having the potential and talent to develop into a fine midfielder. But he's a LONG ways to go yet.). But not much of anything at the business end of the park. Least Lallana's not making that unproductive group into a 4.
 
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