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zzeezzy said:
Both clubs got penalised, just accept that and move on... jesus, it's not hard. Both clubs were in the wrong here and will get punished.
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Only one club got penalised for illicit chanting. Read the charges... jesus, it's not hard.
 
mersk said:
Thanks for your contribution to this section of the forum, too bad we can't just censor **** we don't like. But it's ok, I'm sure you'd have found it real amusing if the situation was turned around.
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So much overreaction. For a record, I find it amusing when someone cries about conspiracy theories, more so when Liverpool fan does it.
 
mersk said:
Only one club got penalised for illicit chanting. Read the charges... jesus, it's not hard.
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But you're making out like Liverpool have been harshly treated whilst focussing on another club.

Does it make your club any more innocent of these charges? Fact is no. UEFA have got it wrong with the charging arguably but you have to accept it that the officials at the Anfield game didn't report any chanting so that is probably what they base it on primarily.

United have been hit with other charges anyway, but Liverpool need to focus on what they actually done wrong rather than trying to act the innocent, this will not prevent this from happening again with an attitude like that.

I'll say once again, United are not at all innocent, but I think what you guys done at Old Trafford over stepped any boundary. Invading the home end, ripping out seats and fights breaking out because of this, that is a way that can start more tragic events happening.

These chants obviously are equally bad in their own right, but unfortunately when you have two big clubs who hate each other, you are never going to stop a minority.
 
zzeezzy said:
Both clubs got penalised, just accept that and move on... jesus, it's not hard. Both clubs were in the wrong here and will get punished.
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I couldn't care less, Uefa doesn't surprise me anymore with their decisions - but the charge of illicit chanting against Liverpool rather than both is what's causing the fuss amongst some. Nobody is questioning any of the other charges or disputing them.

It was heard loud and often during both legs from the United end, so therefore should be charged to both clubs

It is what it is, though.
 
Can we quit with the OTT rhetoric that 8 or so lads singing and dancing equates to possibly causing a tragedy. That's the second time in less than 24 hours on here.

Some frigging perspective please.
 
LFCMarshall said:
I couldn't care less, Uefa doesn't surprise me anymore with their decisions - but the charge of illicit chanting against Liverpool rather than both is what's causing the fuss amongst some. Nobody is questioning any of the other charges or disputing them.

It was heard loud and often during both legs from the United end, so therefore should be charged to both clubs

It is what it is, though.
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Obviously they got that wrong but I don't think constantly dwelling on it will fix what your own club done wrong is my point.

If we are ever to stop stuff like this happening (which we won't because too many fans), we as fans or board members or whatever need to focus on our own club and how WE could of prevented what we done wrong.

But I agree that the UEFA charging was wrong regarding the chanting should be for both clubs, but United have already addressed this and took some responsibility by saying they will speak to fan groups I believe.
 
zzeezzy said:
But you're making out like Liverpool have been harshly treated whilst focussing on another club.

Does it make your club any more innocent of these charges? Fact is no. UEFA have got it wrong with the charging arguably but you have to accept it that the officials at the Anfield game didn't report any chanting so that is probably what they base it on primarily.
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I don't have a single objection to the charges against Liverpool. And I'm not making it out like we've been harshly treated at all.

All I'm saying is that United have been extremely lucky, and that the message UEFA sends is 1) they are incompetent beyond comprehension, and 2) they clearly don't give a **** about making an actual effort to stop such chants.

And it doesn't have anything to do with the officials at Anfield not reporting it. Of course they should have, but it was even more audible at OT. Yet it's completely ignored by UEFA. That's what I'm ranting about, because the injustice in those chanting charges is ******* mindblowing.

No one is trying to act the innocent here. But according to UEFA, United are innocent as far as chanting was concerned. Imagine Liverpool chanting about Münich for 180 minutes, a few United fans incapable of biting their lips at the end of the match start chanting about Hillsborough, and Liverpool face no consequences for it while United are charged. You'd be ok with that? Of course you wouldn't.

As for the whole "invading the home end" (which seemed to be about 10-15 people from what I've seen), it's not entirely impossible that was a response to the Hillsborough chants at Anfield or even the banner over M602. And that's not me trying to place the blame over on United supporters, that's me trying to blame UEFA for not taking any of this **** seriously. Of course ultimately the blame lies with the idiots who did these things, but UEFA have a ******* responsibility. And they're ******** all over it.
 
What we have to look forward to the quarter final:

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Which is all a MAJOR step up from Thursday and Utd's cringeworthy attempt at doing flags. All of which made Chelsea's freebie plazzy flags look like a decent effort:

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My mates just cleared the whole murderers thing up.

Apparently they were singing it because we murdered them in the first leg.


(A shocking attempt at lightening the mood but it is what it is)
 
Tezzz said:
I expect a massive Klopp face in their crowd, like the one I've seen them do for the Champions League.
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Gonna' be absolutely epic mate. For the second straight round, the Europa League has a tie ******* all over any Champions League tie in terms of interest and viewing figures. And unlike the last round, it'll just be one big fan love in with our friends from Dortmund topped off by our mutual adoration of that funny German fella with the bins. Who'll doubtless be hugging all 22 players and anyone else that he comes across the end lol. YNWA is gonna' be spectacular. All four stands will be singing.

First time I'll of been to Dortmund to see us play BVB. Missed the Champions League clash under Houllier through being skint. But I did get to stand that massive terrace the UEFA Cup final against Alaves the previous May through virtue of, uhmmm, 'procuring' a UEFA photographers bib and walking the stadium half time. They just kept opening doors and it seemed impolite to refuse haha. Ended up spending the first 15 minutes or so the second half stood up there getting bevvied with some Spaniards. Be fantastic to see it full of Dortmund fans.

Latest stop for Jürgen's red army on the march to Basel!

Can't wait.
 
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Scouseinthehouse said:
Gonna' be absolutely epic mate. For the second straight round, the Europa League has a tie ******* all over any Champions League tie in terms of interest and viewing figures. .
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Yeah, this tie is better than Barca Vs Atletico Madrid, PSG Vs City.
 
Blow not having Firmino today being as he's been the most productive player the league 2016, but I like our chances of doubling up St. Mary's wins. Not even worried that Saints have scored the most PL goals the air given the form Sakho and Lovren in particular are in. What was a massive weakness is becoming less and less so by the passing game back there. We're looking a lot stronger all ways round the more we play and train under Klopp and I really do think we're in for a great last (hopefully) 15 games this season leading all the way to Basle and a 4th UEFA Cup. Will we get top 4 through the league? Depends a lot on City continuing to slide. (Be horrible wanting Utd to win later but L'pool comes above any feeling toward them.). But we'll certainly give it everything we have.

Mighty Reds!
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
(Be horrible wanting Utd to win later but L'pool comes above any feeling toward them.)
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I can't want United to win unless there's an absolute guarantee it will help us directly. Wouldn't be too disappointed if they drew with City though, then they both drop points
 
Absolutely made up for Flanno he get's the armband today. Always something extra special to have a Scouser in the side. That pride goes up another notch when they're leading the team.

And two up top! For the first time since ..... Southampton the League Cup and that 6-1 annihilation.

Could it just be .....
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Absolutely made up for Flanno he get's the armband today. Always something extra special to have a Scouser in the side. That pride goes up another notch when they're leading the team.

And two up top! For the first time since ..... Southampton the League Cup and that 6-1 annihilation.

Could it just be .....
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Great for him, but is he the best choice? Is he a leader? I'd consider Sakho and Can to be better suited to it, and even Lallana captained at Southampton. But I'm trusting Klopp to have a better idea of it than me.
 
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