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kitchin75 said:
good to hear you had a good time did not see the game but had 5live on and that singing b4 kickoff was off the chain never heard any thing like it and what a come back and i know today is a sad day but just keep your chin up YNWA
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Thanks man. Very nice of you to say. Appreciated.
 
Looks like I missed a **** of a game last night, absolutely gutted may have to try and catch a replay.

Anyway to the important stuff, whatever our opinions on each other I think we can agree today transcends the tribalism in football. No one should ever, ever go to a football match and not come home that should just never happen. I have been to over 400 Leeds matches home and away and the notion that I would not make the journey home is just alien to me. Today is about the football family and despite our petty differences we should always look out for each other, my heart goes out to Liverpool fans today YNWA
 
To suffer such a tragedy is one terrible thing.

But to blamed and smeared and denied justice for so many years is an abomination.

Never forget

JFT96
 
I have to say it because I had a lot of criticism on him in the beginning of the season, milner is very good in the last matches.
 
I remember vividly seeing something tragic unfolding as a kid and as a 14 year old it's something you never ever forget witnessing-regardless of you were there or saw it on TV. And to this day I cannot physically watch it.

What the press did along with others of their ilk was absolutely unforgivable, as was the justice denial.

JFT96
 
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spook said:
I have to say it because I had a lot of criticism on him in the beginning of the season, milner is very good in the last matches.
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I always feel he gets a bit too much stick. He's a hard worker and he's actually been involved in a lot of goals this season. Probably on high wages but at least there was no transfer fee
 
Very good analysis of the tactics involved yesterday.

https://sportscafe.in/articles/foot...erpool-scripted-yet-another-miracle-in-europe

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Dannybell2011 said:
just got back from the game now that was epic the atmosphere was unbelievable then the last goal went in people were jumping all over people everywhere amazing, one of them games people will never forget and im lucky enough to say i was there still cant beleive that happend
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Haha the guy next to me was from Poland or somewhere. Big fat fella. High fived each other after every goal. Apart from that last, I went to and the guy practically picked me up and we hugged it out through injury time. Brilliant.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Still three mammoth games before we can even start thinking of the Champs League. (And more importantly a date with Mersk in Trondheim the Super Cup haha.)
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Hahaha, that'd be awesome! I actually realized yesterday after the win that it also means one step closer to Liverpool visiting Trondheim, I had almost forgotten all about the Super Cup. Tickets aren't available until the teams are decided, so at the end of May maybe, CL final is May 28th I think.

The ground only takes 21,600 people though, and I suspect the few tickets available to us mortals will be expensive as ****. Already seen some tickets being sold (although it's probably just a scam) at £600, so if it's even half that there's no way I can afford it. They'll probably also sell out in a matter of hours, especially if it ends up with Liverpool - Real Madrid or Liverpool - Bayern München. After all, Liverpool has the biggest supporter club here in Norway (surpassed Man Utd last year).
 
mersk said:
Hahaha, that'd be awesome! I actually realized yesterday after the win that it also means one step closer to Liverpool visiting Trondheim, I had almost forgotten all about the Super Cup. Tickets aren't available until the teams are decided, so at the end of May maybe, CL final is May 28th I think.

The ground only takes 21,600 people though, and I suspect the few tickets available to us mortals will be expensive as ****. Already seen some tickets being sold (although it's probably just a scam) at £600, so if it's even half that there's no way I can afford it. They'll probably also sell out in a matter of hours, especially if it ends up with Liverpool - Real Madrid or Liverpool - Bayern München. After all, Liverpool has the biggest supporter club here in Norway (surpassed Man Utd last year).
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I should be ok sorting them. As we stand, not too many of our accounted tickets would go. Actually thought Trondheim was a **** to get to but it's a piece of **** out of Oslo when I looked. Might look at prebooking some rooms as no doubt every single Norweigen red would tip up haha.

Games a Tuesday for some f-ed up reason.

But lets get past Villareal first.
 
Tezzz said:
Haha the guy next to me was from Poland or somewhere. Big fat fella. High fived each other after every goal. Apart from that last, I went to and the guy practically picked me up and we hugged it out through injury time. Brilliant.
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well the people in front of me turned around and jumped on me im nearly 20 but not a big lad and he was about 40 and looked like he went the gym i think the adrenaline kept me up any other time would have fell over haha
 
so why is this the last year that there is anything going off to remember those that lost there lifes if no 1 minds me asking
 
kitchin75 said:
so why is this the last year that there is anything going off to remember those that lost there lifes if no 1 minds me asking
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dilakh2 said:
Hillsborough: Final Anfield memorial service in April - BBC News
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Firstly, we no longer go the 'service' at the ground. I say 'service', as it's become the furthest thing from that over recent years. WAY too many people now treat it like 'entertainment', screaming and taking photies of the players when the arrive, excited that they're actually able to be in Anfield etc; a lot of the HFSG (Family Support Group. The family's of the bereaved), Aspinall and Hicks in particular, have treated the occasion akin to a political rally with some of their speeches which was neither the time nor place. The football club try's it's best but it just became a sideshow. The 20th we finally had enough and took it upon ourselves to doing our own thing at a church in town which I've always considered the spiritual home of the City. (Won't name it as we like to keep it small but open to that in PM if any local's so inclined are interested going forward.). The clergy have been real accommodating in allowing this. Firstly outside, and the last three years inside the church. A short, respectful service where a few words are said, the names read out, and a silence at 3:06 PM. Made even better the last few years by the the priest of the Church joining in and saying a few words at the end which always rounds it off perfectly. (Although the ****** can't half drink when he comes back to the pub after haha.). In short we've got back to what the day should be. A respectful, traditional remembrance service in an understated way for lost friends that we feel they and ourselves deserve. It helps us all.

Now, that's our choice. But I think it's completely and utterly wrong for the HFSG to decide that the service at the ground is now over. I get that the family's may want that and may be drained through everything the last 27 years. But they just made that decision alone without consulting anyone which has further ****** off the HJC. (Hillsborough Justice Campaign which was a split with certain family's down to the FSG's 'control' over things.). Where do all those people, and there still are many genuine ones among all the 'tourists' who go the ground for the RIGHT reasons, go next year? Some may do what we've done and do their own thing. (Even if we'd been in Dortmund Friday we'd of found a church and remembered.). But it's not right to take that away from people. When Aspinall turned around and said 'We want to draw a line under this' I and a lot of people were both flabbergasted and hurt/ angry. That was a terribly selfish thing to say and attitude to have. Again, I feel terribly for the family's and their strength the last 27 years has been unreal to carry on the fight. But they are FAR from the only ones effected and they DON'T speak for EVERYONE. The true death toll of Hillsborough is somewhere currently around 110/111 with the additions of people who took their own lives in the intervening years unable to cope with the mental scars that never go away. Some even blaming themselves for not being killed on the day and surviving. Not to mention the thousands of people, myself included as a teenager experiencing something NOBODY should ever have to experience and having a life changing event happen to you that is just the worst possible you could; who have had to carry on their lives whilst still baring the scars that no amount of counselling can ever fully cure. All the people who weren't there who lost friends and still mourn them. This wasn't just the immediate family's loss and it's wrong that they should treat it as such. For her to say that ..... I don't think I'll EVER stop remembering and mourning the 15th. There's NO 'line' to be drawn. Even Sheffield Wednesday continue to hold a small, respectful service at the memorial garden outside Hillsborough every year for anyone that wishes to attend there. If certain family members no longer wish to attend that's both understandable and their prerogative. But it should be personal choice and open for ALL to decide.

Yesterday, another thing that blows me away, and falls on the club as much as the HFSG, they gave the family's a maximum of TWO tickets each for the service at Anfield. I know quite a few stayed away and went to the HJC service at the new memorial in town because of that. Ridiculous and beyond belief. Over the past 27 years, the family's of the people that died have expanded with kids and grandkids who all deserve to be in attendance to remember. The club should of stepped in and expanded that area they give to the family's. It's not hard and would of been the right thing to do..

The Family Support Group can be VERY insular and selfish. They've done tremendous work. And my heart goes out to them for their ultimate loss. But they are FAR from the only ones that have campaigned the last 27 years and taken on the highest powers in the land. Or been, and still are, massively effected by the events of April 15th, 1989. Aspinall and Hicks accepting MBE's, before any verdict is even out, is another glaring example of that. It ISN'T all about them.

Be interesting to see where people go and what people do next year but even though I no longer go there, I don't agree that they should of had the venue of the ground taken away from them. Not least without consultation with others on the decision.
 
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