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This situation we've been placed in gets more F up by the passing day.

But (as the equally F up social media narrative goes from opposition idiots), the football authorities are doing everything in their power to make sure L'pool are successful this season!

Let's not forget that!

(C and P'd as the Times is subscription-based online to read full articles)

Jurgen Klopp will take Liverpool to Club World Cup in Qatar and leave reserve coach in charge for Carabao Cup quarter-final
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Paul Joyce, Northern Football Correspondent
November 25 2019, 5:00pm, The Times

Liverpool Under-23 coach Neil Critchley is set to take charge of the team to face Aston Villa in the Carabao Cup quarter-final, the night before Jürgen Klopp launches the European champions’ bid to win the Club World Cup.

How Liverpool will split their resources to cope with the unprecedented situation of playing two matches in two continents within 24 hours has become clearer, with Klopp confirming that he will be in Qatar with a senior squad for the Fifa tournament from Sunday, December 15.

Liverpool’s semi-final in the Club World Cup — a competition they have never won — is scheduled to take place on December 18 and the final, or third/fourth place play-off, on December 21.

The team’s arrangements for the domestic cup game at Villa Park will mirror those for a normal first-team fixture — travelling on the first-team bus, for example, and staying in the same hotel as if Klopp was present — although it will be a largely youthful squad.

The likes of Rhian Brewster, Harvey Elliott, Curtis Jones, Caoimhin Kelleher, Ki-Jana Hoever, Pedro Chirivella, Neco Williams and Sepp van den Berg have played in the earlier rounds of the competition which resulted in victories over MK Dons and Arsenal.

A sprinkling of senior players, such as James Milner, Adam Lallana and Joe Gomez, have also featured in those games, but it is anticipated that they will be in Qatar with Klopp. Liverpool do not have to take a full squad of 23 players to the tournament and may take fewer to spread their playing staff across the matches.

A final decision on the prospect of Brewster, 19, and Elliott, 16, for example, flying to Qatar after the Villa tie has still to be taken, but it would seem unlikely.

Liverpool held extensive talks with the EFL before committing to two games in 24 hours as they juggle with the demands of a hectic schedule, which will involve them playing 12 games in five different competitions over the next six weeks.

The possibility of Klopp’s assistant manager, Pepijn Lijnders, taking charge at Villa Park and then flying to the Middle East had been briefly mooted. However, it is increasingly likely that Critchley, who joined Liverpool in 2013, will be at the helm.

Critchley has been spending more time at Melwood, the club’s training ground, recently, along with the academy director Alex Inglethorpe and other academy staff members, to learn as much as they can ahead of the game.
 
Heartwarming this-


Talking World-class CH's .....

Really looking forward tomorrow to seeing Mo go against the only CH in World football that remotely comes close (emphasis on 'close' as big Virg is out on a plateau all of his own) to Van Dijk. Koulibaly.

Here's to Salah skinning him again and taking us through like last year!
 
Im fine with never having to play Napoli ever again...

Horrible rats. On and off the park. Moody as F last night mate with KO’s going off all over.

And nobody’s telling me that ref wasn’t got at. The officials here are bad but he was next level incompetence. Defo bent. Worst I’ve seen in years and that’s saying something.

As regards ourselves, it was just one of them when everyone was off it, on and off the pitch

Complete S/Show all round from virtually everyone not named Lovren or Henderson.

But we got the point that keeps it in our own hands so no harm, no foul.

Up the top of everything Reds!
 
Got very little interest in any football right now.

Just utterly numb.

Not surprised. But numb all the same. I aren't even going to try to put into words my feelings and emotions toward the Establishment in this totally F up Country we live in.

And I'm just a survivor. Christ only knows how anyone who's lost anyone is feeling after the ultimate disgrace of today.

God rest. JFT96.
 
It probably wasn't a good idea to push for criminal case, it was always going to end on a sour note. Whatever findings of that Hillsborough committee, it would never stand in a criminal court where rules favor the defendant and you need to prove guilt beyond any doubt in such a complex situation where million different things were at play.
 
Got very little interest in any football right now.

Just utterly numb.

Not surprised. But numb all the same. I aren't even going to try to put into words my feelings and emotions toward the Establishment in this totally F up Country we live in.

And I'm just a survivor. Christ only knows how anyone who's lost anyone is feeling after the ultimate disgrace of today.

God rest. JFT96.
Honestly just disgraceful.
 
It probably wasn't a good idea to push for criminal case, it was always going to end on a sour note. Whatever findings of that Hillsborough committee, it would never stand in a criminal court where rules favor the defendant and you need to prove guilt beyond any doubt in such a complex situation where million different things were at play.

Not just the HIP report backing up Taylor mate, but the second inquest that brought around that overturned the disgraceful ‘accidental death’ verdict into an ‘unlawful killing due to gross negligence and dereliction of care’ one decreed that would be the judicial process.

The issue wasn’t the CPS going forward with prosecutions.

The issue is a complete system failure. To this Country’s continued detriment.
 
It probably wasn't a good idea to push for criminal case, it was always going to end on a sour note. Whatever findings of that Hillsborough committee, it would never stand in a criminal court where rules favor the defendant and you need to prove guilt beyond any doubt in such a complex situation where million different things were at play.

Perfect storm of clusterfuck, we're always gonna struggle to pin it on one moment or thing and get a definite verdict from this stage.
 
Perfect storm of clusterfuck, we're always gonna struggle to pin it on one moment or thing and get a definite verdict from this stage.

Yup, exactly. These new inquires did a good job dismantling the original coverup, provinv that fans aren't to blame and so on. But criminal court is entirely different game, especially after 30 years.
 
Fabinho out is a big blow but I'm sure either Gini or Hendo dropping deeper can hold the fort until he returns.
 
Yup, exactly. These new inquires did a good job dismantling the original coverup, provinv that fans aren't to blame and so on. But criminal court is entirely different game, especially after 30 years.

See the British Establishment as to why it's taken 3 decades for the Crown Prosecution Service to finally be able to take this to court from something that should have been concluded and justice served when private prosecutions were bought nearly 2 decades back.

And even when it did, how any hope of a 'fair' trial was never going to be allowed from the Establishment.

A complete failure of the whole system and a serious stain forever left on the Country and the British legal system.

The wonderful David Conn is about the closest you'll get in the media to the truth of just what a sham proceedings were.

 
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What a joke that the ref blew the whistle for that freekick when Adrian clearly wasnt set.
 
Despite Atkinsons best efforts we hang on and dare I say 11 points clear that its over?
 
Despite Atkinsons best efforts we hang on and dare I say 11 points clear that its over?
It’s done. City look a bit of a mess atm no leaders on the pitch either. And Guardiola looking very agitated on the side lines. Won’t be surprised if he walks soonish.
 
Not bad this football lark is it?

Play like dog ____ in by far and away your worst performance of the season. Lose your goalie. (No arguments there. Either with the red or the quick free kick. They changed the rules before the season so that you don't even have to ask the ref now to take a quick free kick to maintain the attacking teams advantage. It's just madly not been adhered to.). But still, find a way to do what these historically relentless Reds always do 9 times out of 10. And find a way to win the game and move 4 games clear of City.

How utterly mad is that? We've reached 40 points (Side note- Is that us safe from relegation now already?) before City have reached 30! 11 points clear of them. In November! Still trying to get my head around that. If they're 'the best side the PL has ever seen', just WHAT does that make this gang of ridiculous Reds?

I could go on about the equalling the club record unbeaten run of 31 games. Or the unbeaten home league run now extending to 47 games and counting. Or this being the best start through 14 games of any Liverpool side in the clubs 127 years of existence. Or this being the most times in a PL season we've won by 2-1. And it not even being December. And on. And on.

But I'm still a hodgepodge of emotions on the bigger picture today. Continuing to stand up to the disgrace of the last 3 decades from this Country towards us and remembering those needlessly taken from us. Just like the Arsenal FA Cup game back in 2007, I have honestly NEVER been prouder in that ground than through the first 6 minutes today. And just like that early January Saturday evening, tears were openly shed between grown men singing for those who no longer can.

Jurgen's Liverpool are F mustard. Fast on their way to becoming the best side this Country has ever witnessed.

But Jurgen's Liverpool didn't matter today in the great scheme of things.

JFT96.
 
It’s done. City look a bit of a mess atm no leaders on the pitch either. And Guardiola looking very agitated on the side lines. Won’t be surprised if he walks soonish.
This was always Peps weakness. Can he stay beyond a third season and still keep up his gruelling micro management upon his players. He has always walked when the going has gotten tough and its the number 1 question mark over him.
 
It's a comfortable lead, but with insane amount of fixtures Liverpool have in December, it can easily shrink from 11 points to 5 or something.
 
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