The Manchester United Thread

Hate as much as you want, Glazers are ****** good businessmen.
 
Same reports from a couple months ago.

I have said all along that the Glazer's aren't as bad as everyone makes them out to be. As long as the debt remains manageable then everything will be fine. Problem is we will have to keep on winning on the pitch.
 
Posted this in the video thread, but may as well post it here seeming it's relavent and not many people view the video thread.

[video=youtube;HKqxAmzjJig]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKqxAmzjJig[/video]
 
DavidBondBBC David Bond



Breaking: Manchester United lodge listing application with Singapore Stock Exchange. Share sell off could be complete by end of year.

DavidBondBBC David Bond



Sources tell me "part" of the proceeds from the partial float will be used to pay off the club's £515m debts

 
Hello people I had a question I wanted to buy Manchester United away kit. Can anybody tell me where to buy it? I live in India!
 
sanketutd said:
Hello people I had a question I wanted to buy Manchester United away kit. Can anybody tell me where to buy it? I live in India!
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Dude go to any Nike store.. In which place/city do you stay?

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Looks like our players have done well once again.

Few quotes from posh forum.

Taylor and Tunnicliffe looking very promising
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I agree with you on the first point. The game changed IMO when Tunnicliffe came on and really drove at the heart of the Millwall defence
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I was delighted to see Wooton get a full game as he did a great job. He also knows how to actually control a football instead of just lunging in at the last moment and looking like a rabbit staring into a cars headlights, whenever a football is played towards him.
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it wasn't until the manager decided he did have a plan B and brought on Tunnicliffe and Taylor, that we showed we could do it, a storming run from Tunni' a la Gerrard a pass to Taylor a nice set up for Freckles and beggar me we're back in it GOAL.
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Tunniclife 7 What a gem, surely he must start against Ipswich, two games he's come on and turned along with Taylor 8 another who must surely start on Saturday, he is stronger and a far better work ethic for the team, on one occasion he made a wonderful interception in our own box.
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Wootton 7 seemed to keep the lid on a lot of what came at them, though on two occasions they obviously didn't.
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Man United
-Their pass completion rate of 87% was the highest of the weekend. Anderson recorded a 96% success rate.

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"The team on Monday will be a very young defensive line-up, with Jones and Evans in the centre and Smalling at right-back," revealed the manager. "But Patrice Evra will be back for Spurs, which gives us experience.
"David De Gea will learn from the experience of the games he's had so far. We'll also have Cleverley and Welbeck. So it's a very young team at the moment, but it's a team full of energy and it's a team of great ability. I'm enjoying watching them at the moment.
"I'm not worried about the young players filling in at the back. Evans has ample experience, of course, and has been at the club since he was 12 years old. He's played plenty of first-team games.
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So our defense for the game against Spurs will be:
De Gea

Smalling Jones Evans Evra
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Would like front 6 to be,

Anderson Cleverley

Nani Rooney Young

Welbeck​
 
I'd rather see Fabio at right back with Smalling in center with Jones ahead of Evans. Can't argue with the front 6 though.
 
Calum said:
Before GodCubed kills me for posting a Sun link i had to has this simply made me LOL

Tabi (sp) De Gea is no way like you as actually he is a good GK !

Massimo Taibi: I know how David de Gea feels | The Sun |Sport|Football
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I wonder how Taibi will be feeling when everytime GK makes a mistake, everyone says Taibi moment or next Taibi. Should be a horrible feeling.. :P

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Shankly's lost tribute to Sir Matt
`MATT Busby is without the doubt the greatest manager that ever lived.

"I am not saying I THINK he is the greatest manager, I am saying he IS the greatest manager. Facts can prove that."

The words fell like shards of Scots granite from the lips of another managerial great, Liverpool's Bill Shankly.

Given the intense football rivalry between the two greatest clubs in English history, they were words of great grace and refreshing honesty.

In the Sixties, United and Liverpool locked horns for the first time in a fight for supremacy.

Shankly had roused Liverpool from their second division slumber and within two years had won the league, in 1964. Busby's United responded to the challenge from the other end of the East Lancs Road, and won it the following season.

Then it was Liverpool's turn again, and once again United, as the historic rivalry of the two cities, built on the natural enmity between merchants and manufacturers, a dock city and one which relied on imports, took on a new dimension.

That rivalry has become too bitter as the years have gone by, marred by harsh words, violence and bad-taste baiting from both sides.

So Shankly's words, in an interview recorded in the 1970s and recently unearthed, stand as a testimony to a gentler, more respectful age.

And they stand as testimony to the achievements of Sir Matt, now seen by many as the second greatest manager in United's history, as the golden years of Sir Alex Ferguson roll on.

Shankly's words - he died in 1981, to the great grief of his friend Busby - came before Ferguson's glory. But they give the measure of exactly what Sir Matt achieved.

Every football fan knows the story of how he fought back from the dereliction of his team, and his own near-death, in the Munich air crash, to win the European Cup within 10 years.

But Shankly harks back to an even greater devastation, when Hitler's bombers wrought death and destruction on Manchester, and Old Trafford was a bomb site.

"I happened to be stationed in Manchester when the Blitz came to the city," said Shankly.

"I saw Old Trafford a few days after the Blitz, and when I looked at it, I thought `That's the end. There will never be another football team here again.'

"Tommy Curry was trying to keep things going then, but there was not even any water running into the place to have a wash, so the players could train.

"It's the most amazing thing that this club, and this ground, has risen from this. It is a tribute to Matt Busby."

The two men were hewn from the same stuff. Born 20 miles and four years apart in Scottish mining communities, they both had a charisma and a drive which led them to great things.

Sir Matt is famed for the 1950s youth policy whish spawned the great Babes team, was resurrected by Ferguson when he came to the club in 1986.

But Shankly points out that Sir Matt was a shrewd team-builder who was not afraid to fall back on experience, or get out the chequebook if necessary:

"The man was blessed with ability, and of course he used that ability," he said. "After the war, and I must say this, Matt was lucky to have a team that he could put out, even though most of them were veterans.

"Many teams were in the same position and got rid of their old players. But Matt kept his and added to them by signing players like Jimmy Delaney, who was an invaluable asset.

"Until Matt got his young boys, giving them time to get ready, he used his old players.

"Then, of course, came the Busby Babes, and look at the results Manchester United achieved.

"I don't think there was anything he has ever been short of, and he has never been short of courage to go and buy players with his own money, not sponsored by anybody - money that came through the turnstiles.

"He bought Denis Law and many other players, and was never afraid to dabble.

"He had tremendous courage, and his foresight and ability, everything a man needs to be a football manager, Matt Busby has."
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Welbeck has struggled the first two games this season, I'd rather see Berbatov start on Monday..

De Gea
Smalling - Jones - Evans - Evra
Nani - Anderson - Carrick - Young
Rooney
Berbatov​

That's what I'd like to see. Put Carrick in to help out the inexperienced defence. Berbatov as Welbeck has struggled imo. Welbeck on the bench for impact. Rest of the team pretty much picks itself.

Also, agree with Stubbs. Fabio at RB and Jones/Smalling at CB. They have the England partnership (U21) and Fabio is a natural full back. His brother dealt extremely well with Bale last season so hopefully he will tell Smalling how he did it and we can keep him quiet again. Also, seems as though De Gea struggles with long shots - Huddlestone, Bale, VDV and Defoe all have no issues trying from range so it could be a long night for him.
 
AdamSMarshall Adam Marshall



Sir Alex has revealed he made an enquiry for Phil Jones in January but #brfc rejected it #mufc


Sir Alex Ferguson: "Jones had a great season for Blackburn last year and is a player I have been trying to sign since last November."

"We made an inquiry for him in the January transfer window but the club wouldn't sell him to us then."

"I didn't sign him because I thought we were vulnerable at centre-back, I signed him because he was just too good to miss."

 
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Few updates on our Players out on loan:

Brady:

Tactically we got it wrong, Brady and Cairney should have stayed on, when they left we looked clueless. Evans and McKenna dont look up to the challenge to me, Hobbs looks petrified every time he has the ball.

But the season doesnt end until May so plenty of time to right the wrongs.
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I was totally baffled by the Brady off for Barmby substitution?
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BRADY AND CAIRNEY both played well. Its down to the folks who vote. Not much between them.
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Posh players:

Today was the first time I had seen Scott Wootton play properly, and he looks a class act. Assured on the ball, reads the game well,
es on freezing January days he will be well up for a scrap, and we need that big time.
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From the resulting corner Scott Wootton came close to opening his goalscoring account for Peterborough United but again Stockdale did well, diving to his right to palm the ball away.
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Some brilliant work from Taylor tormented the Ipswich defence before he showed his creative side, flashing across the ball for substitute Ryan Tunnicliffe, but the Manchester United loanee could only hit the post as he looked to score his first goal in professional football.
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[/COLOR]OSullivanMUFC Seán O'Sullivan
Luka Modric will not play in tomorrow's game, because, according to Redknapp "his head's been turned". #MUFC #THFC
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[/COLOR]Eric Harrison: Today’s young guns can match likes of Becks and Scholes
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Eric Harrison, the architect of the greatest talent production line in world football, has today given a glowing verdict on Danny Welbeck and Tom ­Cleverley.

“They are special, very special, no question about it,” said the ex-United youth coach, speaking about the home-grown duo who are looking to make this their landmark season and become regulars in Sir Alex Ferguson’s team chasing title number 20.

Harrison, who remains a close friend of Fergie, is convinced striker Welbeck’s time at Sunderland on loan and Cleverley’s 30-odd games for Wigan have given their careers a huge boost.

The coach, who made his name helping the Reds’ Class of ‘92 that included David Beckham, Gary Neville, Ryan Giggs, Nicky **** and Paul Scholes achieve greatness, believes both Welbeck and Cleverley will follow in their footsteps to the big time.

He said: “Regarding Welbeck, I’m highly impressed. Steve Bruce has done an excellent job with him at Sunderland. The boy seems to have picked up more speed and holds the ball up well.

“He’s a gem and it’s a massive bonus to the club and the fans that he’s born in Longsight. Everyone loves a local lad coming through. The Class of ‘92 were all local apart from David but he just loves United.

“Regarding Tom Cleverley, I’ve been saying to any United supporter who wants to listen for three or four years that this lad is really, really good, very special just like Welbeck, no question about it. If he had been in that Class of ‘92 he’d have come through just like those lads did.

“Tom is a steady kind of kid who listens and learns – he can get to the very top as a player.

“He’s not like Scholes in controlling the tempo of a game, opening everything up and shooting on sight. He’s more like a Barcelona player, quick with his one-twos.

“He is great taking up positions in space and works ever so well with Rooney. If he doesn’t make it big at United and England I’ll jump in the Manchester Ship Canal.”

Harrison believes the old set up with A, B and reserve teams at clubs work better than the current academy and reserve system.

He said: “You used to be able to put a youngster into the reserves where there were established pros getting back from injury or were out of favour and you knew they would get a decent game and a few knocks.

“It was brilliant to harden them up so they knew what was coming in the first team.

“It’s not like that now with the reserve fixtures not at a high standard as they were.

“With David Beckham when the boss decided to send him off to Preston in 1995 on loan he’d only been at United a few days.

“He rang me up all upset saying the manager wanted to get rid of him and I told him that just wasn’t the case – we just wanted him to play league football and he did have a big future at the top of the game.

“When he got to Preston he met Tom Finney and he made him feel 10ft tall when he told him he was a good player.

“It’s a must these days for players to go out on loan and Sir Alex is making the most of this arrangement. It’s a case of picking and choosing your clubs, though. It’s no use sending young players to teams that don’t play anything like the United way.

“It’s either the United way or no way as far as Sir Alex is concerned and he handpicks the teams where the young players are going.”

Harrison went on: “It will be 25 years Sir Alex has been at United in November and yet again he’s building a team of players with an average age below mid 20s.

“It didn’t surprise me with first Smalling, then Jones and Ashley Young coming to Old Trafford. OK David De Gea hasn’t had the best of starts that is true. It’s a fact that some players find United too big for them.

“But the truth is a lot of good judges rate De Gea very highly indeed and he has been well scouted of course before he came to United.

“Most people who have seen him play believe he’ll be the Spanish international keeper for a long time in the future.

“Technically, he is brilliant but it is different in the Premier League than Spain where goalkeepers tend to get knocked about a bit more than what happens in Spain.

“Fergie will stick with him. He’s a stubborn guy and he’ll just keep saying ‘Play on, play on’, and he will. It’s up to the staff at United to maybe build him up a bit physically and in training put a few players around him when he’s coming for crosses.”

Asked how Fergie’s latest squad compares with the treble-winning 1999 team, regarded as the best in United’s history, Harrison said he does see comparisons but there is a missing piece of the jigsaw.

“Last year I’ve got to say the build-up was so slow, painfully slow but so far this season the tempo is up 30 to 40 per cent. It’s brilliant that they’re playing quicker, United-style football.

“In the Community Shield City couldn’t get near us as we were playing our one-twos and keeping our discipline when they tried to bully us.

“We’re not as good as the ‘99 team as yet but the style is similar with so many strikers competing for two positions and the speed of the build up.

“People have a go at Berbatov but I think he has great control and awareness and for me he’s a top player.

“There is plenty of time for Fergie to get another treble but maybe not this season.

“The boss may be coming up to 70 but he will go on until he’s 90.

“Daydreaming I’m thinking that with a controlling midfielder another treble is not beyond the realms of possibility.

“I will probably get a telephone call and a ticking off from Sir Alex Ferguson for saying this but we do need a replacement for that world-class talent Paul Scholes.”

Asked if he meant someone like Wesley Snider, Harrison replied: “He’ll do.”
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Good read. Harrison rates both very highly. Would have loved to listen about Pogba, Tunnicliffe, Morrison, Will Keane..
 
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