The Manchester United Thread

Theatre of dreams said:
It's not done after the 4th signing. He said the market is still open till the 31st of August depending on who leaves. So I'm sure there will be more signings yet.
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Jose said we have 3 out of our 4 players and we are 75% done in the transfer market. When the last player comes in we are finished. He doesn't have any intention from what he was saying to make more signings.
 
zzeezzy said:
Jose said we have 3 out of our 4 players and we are 75% done in the transfer market. When the last player comes in we are finished. He doesn't have any intention from what he was saying to make more signings.
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Depending on departures he said on MUTV yesterday. Players will be happy players will be in happy and want to leave, this is normal the market is open till 31st of August we have room to breath after the 4th signing.
 
Juve paying 94million euros for a near 29 year old striker, suddenly makes Pogba price seem reasonable.

120m euros for a 23 year old.

I thought Juve were good in the market, don't get the Higuain deal, especially as they have Dybala.
 
zzeezzy said:
Juve paying 94million euros for a near 29 year old striker, suddenly makes Pogba price seem reasonable.

120m euros for a 23 year old.

I thought Juve were good in the market, don't get the Higuain deal, especially as they have Dybala.
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Sounds simplistic but it's smacks of the Munich strategy. Anytime you get the slightest opposition, rape that of it's best players and cake walk the league for another few years until it happens again. Juve's complete, unchallenged dominance of Serie A will just roll on for the foreseeable.

But yeah, fee's have gotten completely out of control. I'll preface this by saying there's a big differential in the finances of Utd and Liverpool currently, even if that gap is decreasing, so it's all relevant to either situation. But even if we where on a level financial playing field, there's NO way I'd want L'pool to go drop £100 million, just in a transfer fee alone before you add in his wages and everything else, on a player. And I really like Pogba and his potential. But that's all it is at the moment. Potential. I honestly don't see that much difference in taking the potential of a Can or a Grujic. They still need coaching up and have similar attributes and high ceilings. But you're not spending the farm on them. Again, all relative as Utd have the financial security to do this, but NO player is worth that IMHO.

Football has LONG been out of control financially but now it's out of ALL recognition.
 
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Higuain apparently having his medical at juve now. So it appears where ever he goes, pogba is on his way

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Scouseinthehouse said:
Sounds simplistic but it's smacks of the Munich strategy. Anytime you get the slightest opposition, rape that of it's best players and cake walk the league for another few years until it happens again. Juve's complete, unchallenged dominance of Serie A will just roll on for the foreseeable.

But yeah, fee's have gotten completely out of control. I'll preface this by saying there's a big differential in the finances of Utd and Liverpool currently, even if that gap is decreasing, so it's all relevant to either situation. But even if we where on a level financial playing field, there's NO way I'd want L'pool to go drop £100 million, just in a transfer fee alone before you add in his wages and everything else, on a player. And I really like Pogba and his potential. But that's all it is at the moment. Potential. I honestly don't see that much difference in taking the potential of a Can or a Grujic. They still need coaching up and have similar attributes and high ceilings. But you're not spending the farm on them. Again, all relative as Utd have the financial security to do this, but NO player is worth that IMHO.

Football has LONG been out of control financially but now it's out of ALL recognition.
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In the end you know it's all a bubble, and you already know what is gonna happen when it's going to burst...
 
lxl Ra lxl said:
In the end you know it's all a bubble, and you already know what is gonna happen when it's going to burst...
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Been saying it's going to burst for the last 10 years and more and it hasn't yet! Although crowds are finally dropping as people are beginning to say 'enough is ENOUGH!' so we'll see what effect that has going forward.

Out of all reality with most every other thing in life. Modern day football really is a law unto it's self.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Sounds simplistic but it's smacks of the Munich strategy. Anytime you get the slightest opposition, rape that of it's best players and cake walk the league for another few years until it happens again. Juve's complete, unchallenged dominance of Serie A will just roll on for the foreseeable.

But yeah, fee's have gotten completely out of control. I'll preface this by saying there's a big differential in the finances of Utd and Liverpool currently, even if that gap is decreasing, so it's all relevant to either situation. But even if we where on a level financial playing field, there's NO way I'd want L'pool to go drop £100 million, just in a transfer fee alone before you add in his wages and everything else, on a player. And I really like Pogba and his potential. But that's all it is at the moment. Potential. I honestly don't see that much difference in taking the potential of a Can or a Grujic. They still need coaching up and have similar attributes and high ceilings. But you're not spending the farm on them. Again, all relative as Utd have the financial security to do this, but NO player is worth that IMHO.

Football has LONG been out of control financially but now it's out of ALL recognition.
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On the Munich part, Dortmund's attack looks scary good now. Aubemyang in front of Schurrle, Gotze and Reus. Wow
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Been saying it's going to burst for the last 10 years and more and it hasn't yet! Although crowds are finally dropping as people are beginning to say 'enough is ENOUGH!' so we'll see what effect that has going forward.

Out of all reality with most every other thing in life. Modern day football really is a law unto it's self.
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Will only burst once the TV money bubble bursts, could potentially with the rise of illegal boxes etc, but majority of them a linked to servers sky could just pay hackers to take down the servers on match days and **** like that if it starts affecting profits.
 
Alcaraz said:
On the Munich part, Dortmund's attack looks scary good now. Aubemyang in front of Schurrle, Gotze and Reus. Wow
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Yeah, yet again they've recruited superbly. Both in proven Bundesliga talent (and more so proven to then so they and he knows what to expect in Gotze), and the younger additions they've added. Fantastic model of how to run a stable, successful club in the modern game BVB.

They have to be a dark horse to go far in the Champions League this year.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Yeah, yet again they've recruited superbly. Both in proven Bundesliga talent (and more so proven to then so they and he knows what to expect in Gotze), and the younger additions they've added. Fantastic model of how to run a stable, successful club in the modern game BVB.

They have to be a dark horse to go far in the Champions League this year.
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Its amazing how clubs like Porto, Benefica, Ateltico and Dortmund recruit so well and end up selling players for £30-40m each time. Its time the big clubs took a leaf out of their books and started putting mode faith in players from small clubs who just need a bigger stage to shine rather than buy the new shiny thing on the block
 
epic terrorist said:
Will only burst once the TV money bubble bursts, could potentially with the rise of illegal boxes etc, but majority of them a linked to servers sky could just pay hackers to take down the servers on match days and **** like that if it starts affecting profits.
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To a point. But they'd have no TV spectacle, and in reality cash cow, without the ambiance of full stadiums. Nobody wants that.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
To a point. But they'd have no TV spectacle, and in reality cash cow, without the ambiance of full stadiums. Nobody wants that.
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Tbh mate wouldn't surprise me if they start putting artificial noise over matches, its something they do in WWE when a wrestler doesn't get the crowd pop, happened this year at wrestlemania too
 
Alcaraz said:
Its amazing how clubs like Porto, Benefica, Ateltico and Dortmund recruit so well and end up selling players for £30-40m each time. Its time the big clubs took a leaf out of their books and started putting mode faith in players from small clubs who just need a bigger stage to shine rather than buy the new shiny thing on the block
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Well, speaking from my own clubs POV, I'm pretty sure that's the way we're headed under Klopp. He's had to recruit in certain areas this first season from what he inherited, but I'm sure we'll end up with a conveyor belt system down the road where if, for arguments sake, Barcelona came in with silly money for a Countinho say £50/60 million, there's someone here already coming through to step up. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the January window used sparingly to pick up top potential talent from say Eastern Europe who then get loaned back and brought on as they develop and get coached up into better players. It's the way he's always worked, he openly admits he's not into the big name marque signing and would rather recruit younger, hungrier players that want to be here, that he can do with what he likes to do best, trust in his own coaching ability's, and coach them up to be said 'marque players' like he did at Dortmund.

People are that conditioned to Sky telling them you need X player, and think if you just go spend on big names they'll all fit together (stop laughing at the back); that they neglect to understand the importance of properly building a team and running a financially stable club. That can compete equally as well as a major spender if your scouting/ recruitment and coaching is right.
 
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epic terrorist said:
Tbh mate wouldn't surprise me if they start putting artificial noise over matches, its something they do in WWE when a wrestler doesn't get the crowd pop, happened this year at wrestlemania too
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Oh man I could go off on one on those low life f's in Seattle here. But then as only you or I would be interested in the Seahawks doing that, I'd best not haha.

Best stadium/ crowd in the NFL my f-ing ****!
 
Alcaraz said:
Its amazing how clubs like Porto, Benefica, Ateltico and Dortmund recruit so well and end up selling players for £30-40m each time. Its time the big clubs took a leaf out of their books and started putting mode faith in players from small clubs who just need a bigger stage to shine rather than buy the new shiny thing on the block
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Porto and Benfica do that because they have to so they don't make a massive loss. Porto have the biggest ever Portuguese TV deal at €15 million per year and tickets are cheap. So to offset the wage bill they have to sell some big players, and while a lot of them are talents in the Portuguese league their are always a decent percentage who don't cut it in bigger leagues. Also for all the South Americans for teams in Britain they would likely never get a work permit. Everton had a deal for James Rodriguez all tied up but, he couldn't get a work permit so ended up going to Porto
 
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