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This is why signing someone like Fabinho would make so much more sense as he can in a crisis also cover in other position such as fullback. Although I guess you could argue Dier can fill in CB.
 
zzeezzy said:
This is why signing someone like Fabinho would make so much more sense as he can in a crisis also cover in other position such as fullback. Although I guess you could argue Dier can fill in CB.
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He's wank at CB though, at least he's average at DM
 
zzeezzy said:
This is why signing someone like Fabinho would make so much more sense as he can in a crisis also cover in other position such as fullback. Although I guess you could argue Dier can fill in CB.
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Dier can play RB in a 3 or 4 and CB to a good enough level. Defo not wank!
 
Tbf to Dier he has been a fundamental part to a team that has finished above us for the last two seasons and at times looked the best team in the league generally.

We're probably being harsh on him, but I don't get excited by Dier, however if he comes in and does a job no one will complain. You don't need all the shiny toys to get a winning team.
 
zzeezzy said:
Tbf to Dier he has been a fundamental part to a team that has finished above us for the last two seasons and at times looked the best team in the league generally.

We're probably being harsh on him, but I don't get excited by Dier, however if he comes in and does a job no one will complain. You don't need all the shiny toys to get a winning team.
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Exactly even going back to Fergie, players like ****, Fletcher, Park, O'Shea, Brown, P Neville etc all played part in us winning Prem, CL and cups. Mourinho is very good at building a team and identifying weaknesses in the team/ squad.
 
zzeezzy said:
Tbf to Dier he has been a fundamental part to a team that has finished above us for the last two seasons and at times looked the best team in the league generally.

We're probably being harsh on him, but I don't get excited by Dier, however if he comes in and does a job no one will complain. You don't need all the shiny toys to get a winning team.
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And I'd have little arguments if he was being signed for the money he's worth, and as a squad player. My issue is going all out and paying what you would pay for a shiny new toy, for a limited, overrated player, when better options at a similar or cheaper cost are out there.

But that's the last I'll post on the topic until a DM is signed.
 
RhQQ said:
And I'd have little arguments if he was being signed for the money he's worth, and as a squad player. My issue is going all out and paying what you would pay for a shiny new toy, for a limited, overrated player, when better options at a similar or cheaper cost are out there.
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While I agree in a way on the price. But not many players are going for what there actually worth.

VVD - 60m
Pickford -30m
Morata- 90m euros
Perisic we will over pay on
Klassen - 24-27m
most decent FBs are being quoted at 40-50m.
Belotti and Lukaku way overpriced
Barkley

Its insane! We just have to hope Mourinho has got the right targets that he thinks will fill the gaps to take us on a title challenge.
 
RhQQ said:
And I'd have little arguments if he was being signed for the money he's worth, and as a squad player. My issue is going all out and paying what you would pay for a shiny new toy, for a limited, overrated player, when better options at a similar or cheaper cost are out there.

But that's the last I'll post on the topic until a DM is signed.
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Just one thing, I don't think he'd be a rotational player if he came in for 50m. My bet would be that he would be the go to option as the DM in a 4-3-3.
 
VVD borderline world class. Pickford has huge potential/good quality, possibly England's next #1 and Everton's for years to come. £23.6m is fine for Klaassen. Morata & Lukaku are overpriced but that's generally normal with goalscoring strikers, and Morata would significantly improve our side so I'd have no issue with it. No idea about Barkley, wouldn't want him, just like Dier, he's overrated/overpriced because he's English.

And ZZ, that's what I'm worried about! Anyway, have a good evening
 
zzeezzy said:
Just one thing, I don't think he'd be a rotational player if he came in for 50m. My bet would be that he would be the go to option as the DM in a 4-3-3.
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I think we will have to switch to a 433 for a lot of games next season especially in CL. Can see why Mou wants him.
 
RhQQ said:
VVD borderline world class. .....
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Even though I'm not naive enough to not know the way the market has now gone, I'm still very reticent to see my club splashing crazy stupid money on players. But if they ever do, then I can reason it far better for the very top echelon players that fit. And as you note, that fella', whether it's L'pool or someone else who pays £50/60 million or so, is worth the outlay. Instant game changer to any top side. Not least in England. Arguably the most dominant defender the league already who propped up Fonte two years back and made him look a heck of a lot better than what he's shown to be without him. Tall and great the air, both defending and attacking with the goals he scores, rapid pace, fearsome tackler and physical presence, composed on the ball ..... just a top. top all round defender who's a real leader both on the park and in the channgies as per everyone you hear talk on him that has played with/ managed/ coached him. Passionate and vocal along with his presence. I believe he's Southampton's 'team' captain just 2 years in which speaks volumes.

And he's still only 25 so his best years are all ahead of him.

I don't think he's borderline World class. I think he's in that conversation already and can only get more dominant.

A rapid, tall, composed, ball player defender who's a leader and dominant physical presence. He'd instantly bump any team he joined up another level. Not hard to see why all the top sides in England are, or have been, interested.

If you're going to pay top dollar, then he's as close as a guaranteed return as you're going to get on that.

Someone will get the best out there this summer when he leaves Southampton.
 
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This was too much Dier for me recently...

Not only I don't rate him at all, when I saw this 50 mill the other day I nearly passed out.

We don't need him.
 
VVD isn't a world class defender, he is very good one though. He's not even the best or the most dominant defender in the league.
 
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Hearing Ricky Sbragia top of list to be new u23s manager.


be happy with that. Was very well respected coach when Fergie was here. And has had good reviews from the SFA in regards to coaching there youth sides.
 
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Mike. said:
VVD isn't a world class defender, he is very good one though. He's not even the best or the most dominant defender in the league.
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If Klopp is willing to spend so much on him, he is instantly 'world-class' and worth every penny. If Mourinho or any other manager does the same, he is ****. Get with the program Mike! :P
 
So what's people's thoughts on Benfica RB. Lots of talk since Jan aka Lindelöf. And today reports in Portugal saying we've had there president over to discuss s deal and talks ongoing. Would be a great signing and good LT replacement for Tony V.

Could be Gaitan or could be a Linderlöf let's see.
 
kitchin75 said:
never seen him is he any good
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Very very good. Watched him s dozen times this season and last. Definately very raw in defence like when Valencia was converted. But class going forward, rapid as well. Chips in with a few and good cross. Needs work but Mou can polish his defencive side like Tony V. Can play LB comfortably also decent left foot.
 
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