The Manchester United Thread

[Bujakaa92]

Conceding 3 goals with a back 5 and 2 DMs. Ftlog ??‍??‍ Again McTominey plays 90mins. Utterly ****** off tonight!

Cant understand why... U have tactics that work and is fluid. Playing Shaw as cb, AWB as wing back + 2DMs who usually play alone in that spot, is mind numbingly stupid.

And u go say that we are not playing for a draw...

Not kidding but usual tactics with Lingard in the team would have made better combo.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

In the end, we're not as brutally talented as PSG nor as tactically organized as RB Leipzig.

In the end we can’t defend and can’t score it seems when the crunch is on. Greenwood should of scored in the first half. Rashford was played through at least 3 times to be one on one and fluff it. McTominey skying his effort late on in the box. Rashford shooting straight at the keeper inside the box late on.

And our CBS have to be bubble wrapped all the time forcing us to play 2 DMs and our FBs to tuck in all the time. Just drop one and play Tuanzebe to add pace there ffs!

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Can’t fault the effort all round but the tactics are not good enough/ all over the place on a match by match basis. What with with the subs at FB tonight? Tbf Williams did ok and won us a good freekick that nearly got us through.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

You know it’s bad when I’m this negative lol ?

 

[brunoh]

In the end we can’t defend and can’t score it seems when the crunch is on. Greenwood should of scored in the first half. Rashford was played through at least 3 times to be one on one and fluff it. McTominey skying his effort late on in the box. Rashford shooting straight at the keeper inside the box late on.

And our CBS have to be bubble wrapped all the time forcing us to play 2 DMs and our FBs to tuck in all the time. Just drop one and play Tuanzebe to add pace there ffs!

Yeah, we have been more than erratic in both boxes. We're making childish defensive mistakes since last season. Def not good enough.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Yeah, we have been more than erratic in both boxes. We're making childish defensive mistakes since last season. Def not good enough.

It’s not even the players being poor it’s coaching/ team selection. We have to protect our 2 mega slow CBs and due to that the FBs tuck in way to much and we have to play with 2 DMs. Just get a CB with some ****** pace and ball playing ability and job sorted and a proper DM. Heck we have the CB at the club already!

 

[Legend Incredible]

Pathetic. Truly pathetic. Imagine beating PSG away from home and thumping RB Leipzig 5-0 away from home only to be KO'd in the group stages.

To make it worse, Pogba actually gets subbed on... ******* spineless. This is some Brendan Rodgers level **** right here

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Yep officially Ole out now. No matter how much it hurts me to say that about a manger!

 

[Legend Incredible]

Yep officially Ole out now. No matter how much it hurts me to say that about a manger!

We'll probably win the derby now to carry on with this ridiculous pattern.

 

[Tyton]

Hilarious.

 

[Legend Incredible]

Hilarious.

Our defending or getting KO'd?

 

[steveorobbo]

Said it all along. Ole gone Sunday after we get battered in the Derby. Not got a clue

 

[steveorobbo]

We need goals and when he finally goes to a back 4 he takes telles off that's our best attacking lb and leaves on an unfit Shaw on a yellow card, then 10 minutes later takes him off? Started the game with 5 at the back (with wing backs) and 2 holding dm's?

Since the end of last season I've said about AWB tucking in too far when the ball is down their right and leaving their player in the back post open. Every game for months. How did they score their first goal? How can the management still not see this after months? How much are they on? But it's ok coz AWB is out of position 10 times a game but coz he gets back and slides in he gets called the spider.

Maguire getting **** for their goal but it was obvious where it was going. Why didn't de gea come for it? And when he did he turned his back? Slide out and take the ball. Even if he goes through the player as long as he gets the ball it's no pen. Even if it is we have a chance of them not scoring. He needs dropping now for a significant length of time.

Not even gonna go on about why martial, pogba, lindelof and Bailly should have been done ages ago. How long since fergie and still a shambles from top to bottom

 

[Legend Incredible]

Said it all along. Ole gone Sunday after we get battered in the Derby. Not got a clue

Actually, I'm expecting a win lol. It'll fall in line with the pattern I've noticed during his tenure

 

[steveorobbo]

Actually, I'm expecting a win lol. It'll fall in line with the pattern I've noticed during his tenure

Well yeh to be honest so am I. Always seems to pull these league games out of the bag. No doubt will get him up until we exit Thursday night football and the top 4 is gone

 

[Sherkey]

Man, this was still the biggest worry I had at the start of the season, and it continues. Lack of tactical nous and not improving players enough. And whatever improvement happened in a few players has already regressed in record time (without even hitting the peak). The tactical decisions have honestly been awful.

We honestly don't play with any intensity, we don't have someone dictating tempo. And yes, despite our position in the table, we have been ridiculously lucky to be there. We need a change and we need it urgently.

And honestly, Pogba can leave. I have been one of his supporters (and I still maintain he has WC ability, but doesn't have the mentality). But too much time, it's just a bad combination. He suits places where he gets more time on the ball (which is why he has been better in the CL). Plus, no defensive responsibilities and generally can't play as part of a 2.Maybe Madrid, PSG w/e. Sell him or exchange with someone quality. With him gone, hopefully, we have seen the last of Raiola, even if we do miss out on some quality players.

Should have honestly gone for Poch a while back, now, you would assume he is waiting for Zidane to get sacked (and basis their form and consistency, that's not far off).

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

We need goals and when he finally goes to a back 4 he takes telles off that's our best attacking lb and leaves on an unfit Shaw on a yellow card, then 10 minutes later takes him off? Started the game with 5 at the back (with wing backs) and 2 holding dm's?

Since the end of last season I've said about AWB tucking in too far when the ball is down their right and leaving their player in the back post open. Every game for months. How did they score their first goal? How can the management still not see this after months? How much are they on? But it's ok coz AWB is out of position 10 times a game but coz he gets back and slides in he gets called the spider.

Maguire getting **** for their goal but it was obvious where it was going. Why didn't de gea come for it? And when he did he turned his back? Slide out and take the ball. Even if he goes through the player as long as he gets the ball it's no pen. Even if it is we have a chance of them not scoring. He needs dropping now for a significant length of time.

Not even gonna go on about why martial, pogba, lindelof and Bailly should have been done ages ago. How long since fergie and still a shambles from top to bottom

We all know why the FBs tuck in so much it’s been obvious for a while. It’s Shaw or Telles also. It’s also the same reason we have to play with 2 DMs to bubble wrap out slow immobile CBs.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Man, this was still the biggest worry I had at the start of the season, and it continues. Lack of tactical nous and not improving players enough. And whatever improvement happened in a few players has already regressed in record time (without even hitting the peak). The tactical decisions have honestly been awful.

We honestly don't play with any intensity, we don't have someone dictating tempo. And yes, despite our position in the table, we have been ridiculously lucky to be there. We need a change and we need it urgently.

And honestly, Pogba can leave. I have been one of his supporters (and I still maintain he has WC ability, but doesn't have the mentality). But too much time, it's just a bad combination. He suits places where he gets more time on the ball (which is why he has been better in the CL). Plus, no defensive responsibilities and generally can't play as part of a 2.Maybe Madrid, PSG w/e. Sell him or exchange with someone quality. With him gone, hopefully, we have seen the last of Raiola, even if we do miss out on some quality players.

Should have honestly gone for Poch a while back, now, you would assume he is waiting for Zidane to get sacked (and basis their form and consistency, that's not far off).

I honestly don’t think Poch is the answer. Yes I’m sure we would have a better style of play. But him and Ole have both been poor when the pressure is on or in big games when it really matters.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Match last night.



Under 21 vs Accrington: Woolston Fernandez,Fish,Mengi,Devine Galbraith,Puigmal, Hannibal Pellestri, Shortire, Elanga SubsErcolani,Carney, McCann, Stanley, Neville, Helm, Hugill

Finished 1-1. Pellistri with our goal.

 

[Sherkey]

I honestly don’t think Poch is the answer. Yes I’m sure we would have a better style of play. But him and Ole have both been poor when the pressure is on or in big games when it really matters.

I'm going on Poch purely on his record for improving players. When was the last time a manager of ours improved players dramatically? Fergie? Also mate, Poch took Tottenham almost to the title and the CL. On minimal spends. I would say he massively over-delivered. He pretty much built the squad that Mourinho is performing with now.

Plus, I would say a style of play is long overdue. Then, you would buy players accordingly. I honestly can't tell you what our current style of play is other than the fact that we counter-attack. We sometimes have a medium press, sometimes no-press. There is no tempo visible. Our CBs sometimes hoof the ball, sometimes try to play out from back. They don't lead the backline and there is barely any defensive organisation. Also, we never know who our starting CMs are - I get functional ones like Fred and McTominay for big games - but weirdly - we use them for games where we should be dominating too (add Matic into this equation). You would argue a lot of this lies at the hand of the coach to improve upon.

So, yeah, I would take Poch, any day. Although, I saw reports of us being linked to Tuchel. Not a particularly big fan of that. Plus, Scouse would have a field day if it happens!

The frightening thing is we kinda have reverted back to the Cantona era, with him serving as a talisman for the team (and almost carrying it through). Oddly similar situation for us with Bruno. Mindblowing impact for us. But honestly, take him out of the equation, and we struggle, massively. Particularly with the fact that van de Beek barely gets games, despite the fact that he is probably among our top 3 midfielders?