The Manchester United Thread

[Scouseinthehouse]

Brighton created more chances with 4 shots on target compared to liverpool's one

Brighron didn’t come and sit at all. They never do under Potter. Well organised no question. But they played an expansive, attacking, passing game. The goal they scored was a superb team move reminiscent of this current L’pool side in its pomp. All they lack is money to buy better quality or else they’d be pushing top 10.

Out of the last 6 at Anfield (Wolves. Tottenham. West Brom. United. Burnley. Brighton.) , Brighton were by far the most adventurous who came to play football.

But I can’t concentrate on the game and type as well so I’’m dipping out HT at least haha.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

All this talk and IMO one CB to cover Maguires obviously huge weakness solves all this. Well not sure about the GK problem!

 

[Vanjagl]

Broghton didn’t come and sit at all. They never do under Potter. Well organised no question. But they played an expansive, attacking, passing game. The goal they scored was a superb team move reminiscent of this current L’pool side in its pomp. All they lack is money to buy better quality or else they’d be pushing top 10.

Out of the last 6 at Anfield (Wolves. Tottenham. West Brom. United. Burnley. Brighton.) , Brighton were by far the most adventurous who came to play football.

But I can’t concentrate on the game and type as well so I’’m dipping out HT at least haha.

This is true. I'm still not fogiving OGS for choosing such cowardly tactics.

All this talk and IMO one CB to cover Maguires obviously huge weakness solves all this. Well not sure about the GK problem!

So, how would you fix Maguire's inability to play the high line?

 

[Bujakaa92]

We have a league winning attack.

This is also wrong view. Our and SOU game inflated your goals a lot. You are scoring goals and Bruno is class with the ball, never will deny these things.

But remove him and the Jenga tower will fall. This is where you need some system from bottom to top and have everyone contributing. Ole relies so much on player brilliants. Cavani is 33, beast of a player but might give one good season more if he extends. Martial seems like soulless player who is lost or just found out. Rashford is class but overplayed and stressing a lot definetly with making UK better place by helping out(amazing man, but things take toll on best of us). Donny needs more game time, lad is intelligent player but saying all the time that needs to get use to PL footy and tactics...

Btw that last goals. It seems firstly they did not try to play offside trap, so Harry moving is does not sound that brainddead, even though he might assister onside. But bigger issue was guys in front of him who did not went after theyr guys, they played so static and stayed in line. IT IS THE LAST SECOND, play until the whistle. Also last 2-3 minutes mind boggeling seeing De Gea and AWB bulleting ball forward just to lose the ball.

Team has foundation, sell some and upgrade them. But Ole will not make it happen unless you go nuts and hitjack pot with some big name/price players.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

This is true. I'm still not fogiving OGS for choosing such cowardly tactics.


So, how would you fix Maguire's inability to play the high line?

Simple play him with a pacy CB like Baily. We played a higher line with those 2 together I remember it being pointed out on motd. It’s about the partnership not the individual with the cbs. You can go through utds history. We have had great partnership going back to palister and Bruce but both had floors same with Ferdinand and vidic. The best complete all round cb we had was Stam who could do it all.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Chong with another assist today.

 

[Legend Incredible]

Welp, I've been saying this since Jan, city will walk the league this season.

 

[woolly]

Seems like Alisson is doing his best to help Man City today. First time I look and it's 1-o to City, then 1-1, just looked again and suddenly it is turned into a free for all for the City strike force. So much for Scouse's two horse race.

 

[dilakh2]

Seems like Alisson is doing his best to help Man City today. First time I look and it's 1-o to City, then 1-1, just looked again and suddenly it is turned into a free for all for the City strike force. So much for Scouse's two horse race.

If we can integrate the new CB's into the side and not have our two best mids playing there we should be fine for top 4. I was quietly confident at Christmas when we were top but why on earth did I expect Matip to stay fit for the whole season lol. Utter collapse since then but it is what it is.

 

[Vanjagl]

Simple play him with a pacy CB like Baily. We played a higher line with those 2 together I remember it being pointed out on motd. It’s about the partnership not the individual with the cbs. You can go through utds history. We have had great partnership going back to palister and Bruce but both had floors same with Ferdinand and vidic. The best complete all round cb we had was Stam who could do it all.

Teams still create chances even when Bailly is in team. Maguire at center of the pitch will always be a liability.

 

[woolly]

If we can integrate the new CB's into the side and not have our two best mids playing there we should be fine for top 4. I was quietly confident at Christmas when we were top but why on earth did I expect Matip to stay fit for the whole season lol. Utter collapse since then but it is what it is.

Just as long as your No1 keeper doesn't keep giving the ball to the other side like today

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Teams still create chances even when Bailly is in team. Maguire at center of the pitch will always be a liability.

So wil Linderlof even more so. Yes teams create chances but not as many. And we also play higher up the pitch and don’t concede as many. It’s glaringly obvious we are a far better team with Bailly and Maguire.

 

[Vanjagl]

So wil Linderlof even more so. Yes teams create chances but not as many. And we also play higher up the pitch and don’t concede as many. It’s glaringly obvious we are a far better team with Bailly and Maguire.

It's just as bad as with Lindelof. And this is not Bailly vs Lindelof. This is about Maguire being liability. In most of the games United is allowing opponents 10+ shots. That's just unacceptable.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

It's just as bad as with Lindelof. And this is not Bailly vs Lindelof. This is about Maguire being liability. In most of the games United is allowing opponents 10+ shots. That's just unacceptable.

The whole CBS are a liability. That doesn’t mean you can’t make a good partnership if you add a quality CB that covers for the others floors. No you shouldn’t have to do that with how much Maguire cost but that isn’t his fault. He had the same issues at Leicester but he wasn’t getting exposed so much due to his partner and Leicester having one of the best DMs in the league. It’s nothing new he moves like the titanic lol.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Just seen an interesting stat. In the top leagues only top teams including. Home win % last season it was 60.7 this season so far it’s just below 37% ??

 

[Vanjagl]

The whole CBS are a liability. That doesn’t mean you can’t make a good partnership if you add a quality CB that covers for the others floors. No you shouldn’t have to do that with how much Maguire cost but that isn’t his fault. He had the same issues at Leicester but he wasn’t getting exposed so much due to his partner and Leicester having one of the best DMs in the league. It’s nothing new he moves like the titanic lol.

Leicester did not play the way United plays. Leicester Maguire sat a lot deeper and was less exposed.

 

[Legend Incredible]

Leicester did not play the way United plays. Leicester Maguire sat a lot deeper and was less exposed.

I've never really known Leicester for sitting deep tho?

 

[Vanjagl]

I've never really known Leicester for sitting deep tho?

17/18 Maguire played 38 games and Leicester finished 9 conciding 60! goals.
18/19 he played 31 games, Lecester ended 9th conciding 48 goals.

And btw Maguire never played with Ngolo Kante. Or do we think of Ndidi when talkinga about 'one of the best DMs in the league'?

 

[Vanjagl]

I've never really known Leicester for sitting deep tho?

Sorry for the last quote,I'm using mobile so its a bit harder.
Unfortunatly I cant find anything related to claim that my statement is correct, so feel free to search yourself. I might be wrong, Brendon Rodgers was their manager and he does not sit back.

 

[Bujakaa92]

Sorry for the last quote,I'm using mobile so its a bit harder.
Unfortunatly I cant find anything related to claim that my statement is correct, so feel free to search yourself. I might be wrong, Brendon Rodgers was their manager and he does not sit back.

Rodgers never played with Harry. Puel was then I think 17-19.