Hearing reports that we will have Fletcher back in a month or so, and if these rumours are true, then our Mid may be able to cope if Carrick or Fellaini gets injured, or at the very least our midfield problems will be slightly lessened.
As regards what Moyes has stupidly come out and said, why the **** would he say that for christ sake? Sure he is right we have no chance winning it, and sure as **** every United fan has already come to the conclusion that more than likely this won't be our season. But Moyes has just come right out and figuratively ***** slapped the squad, a squad who most likely have terrible morale after one of the worst starts to a campaign we have had for a while. A squad who most likely are harboring some questions as to Moyes' dodgy post match comments and pre-game selections. Very, very silly thing to come out and say. Down right stupid in fact.
Some things are not working well. Whats wrong with identifying them? I do agree pressing the panic button isn't Man United thing. but why not question some decision made by people who run the club? People get overly defensive when they hear something they refuse to believe. Yesterday, I got into argue ( not really an argue but still) about FIFA14. I've said I don't like it and it feels too slow and buggy. Immediately I got PES lover etiquette and attacked by bunch of people. It's ridiculous. I told that I think Oezil would suit United better than Rooney, and few guys responded like I don't rate Rooney and talk trash about him. Try to read and understand first, then respond if you don't agree.
About yesterdays game, it was hard defeat, we struggled in almost every game this season. But remember, this is United. Ferguson said to give full support to Moyes. He left United with midfield problems, which Moyes as identified. This is not his first job, he know how to do this. He can get overwhelmed sometimes just like Sir Alex was when he first started at Untied. But with experience managing big club, he'll know how to respond to certain situations.
Huge over-reaction to be honest. Again, I would even take Sky's word on this, remember how he called Rooney a back up oh wait....
Poor morale? This is United, you think something like this is going to leave them crushed? We've been here before, 6 times we won the league doing so. People need to get a grip on this meltdown
You don't get it. Rooneys not the problem, problem lies somewhere else. Ok? We got that, right? Still I think Oezil would offer United more than Rooney.
Is he playing as a striker? Rooney covers space, not holes in our midfield. I would love if he could cover defensive flaws in our midfield.There isn't a striker who makes United better than Rooney (apart from Messi and Ronaldo). He covers lot of the midfield holes by dropping deep and making the team tick.
Is he playing as a striker? Rooney covers space, not holes in our midfield. I would love if he could cover defensive flaws in our midfield.
Many a times he drops deep and adds up a number in the midfield. You can't expect him to dictate tempo like Scholes or make tackles like Keane, but at least he helps the midfield by dropping deep and spreading the play. 1
He doesn't cover the entire hole in the midfield but most part of it. 2
Your last point, I'm sure Ozil won't cover that and I'm ever more sure that he won't add anything defensively or as many goals as Rooney. He creates a lot of chances but with out static players he won't, I mean the fine passes won't be converted. 3
1) He does that. He's one of the few who runs all over the pitch even though that's not his job.
2) Like you said, and I agreed, he adds numbers in midfield. Hole in midfield cannot be covered by him, who has little positional sense in his play (defensive).
3) Rooney is better all round player than Oezil, and probably better footballer as well. Problem with our static attack is connected to Rooney, as he is most of the time static, and more often than not slow with the ball. Oezil does not add numbers like Rooney does, both of them are not fix to our defensive problems, but Oezil could be fix to our lack of creativity up front.
Many a times he drops deep and adds up a number in the midfield. You can't expect him to dictate tempo like Scholes or make tackles like Keane, but at least he helps the midfield by dropping deep and spreading the play.
He doesn't cover the entire hole in the midfield but most part of it.
Your last point, I'm sure Ozil won't cover that and I'm ever more sure that he won't add anything defensively or as many goals as Rooney. He creates a lot of chances but with out static players he won't, I mean the fine passes won't be converted.
1) He does that. He's one of the few who runs all over the pitch even though that's not his job.
2) Like you said, and I agreed, he adds numbers in midfield. Hole in midfield cannot be covered by him, who has little positional sense in his play (defensive).
3) Rooney is better all round player than Oezil, and probably better footballer as well. Problem with our static attack is connected to Rooney, as he is most of the time static, and more often than not slow with the ball. Oezil does not add numbers like Rooney does, both of them are not fix to our defensive problems, but Oezil could be fix to our lack of creativity up front.
1. It's not his job but he does it for the team, like how he covers and tackles at LB position. It helps the team at the end of the day and he is more than willing to put a shift.
2. I didn't say he makes our midfield flawless, I said he covers a lot.
3. Static is not because of him, it's because our players don't make off the all runs at all, so even adding Ozil means he will be just another player and won't be able to play to his full potential.
Please don't go into defensive mode, I'm just trying to 'talk'. I know what you said. And I agree with most of it. He does make a shift, he does work hard, no question about it. No, Rooney alone isn't problem of our static attack, but he is part of it. Like every player, he has his flaws.
@Mike. Yep, someone from deep who can influence the game. We do need that. But think. Do we have creative player in our team? I'm not talking about Nani who can drible past players, but pure playmaker to make those defense splitting passes.
Please don't go into defensive mode, I'm just trying to 'talk'. I know what you said. And I agree with most of it. He does make a shift, he does work hard, no question about it. No, Rooney alone isn't problem of our static attack, but he is part of it. Like every player, he has his flaws.
@Mike. Yep, someone from deep who can influence the game. We do need that. But think. Do we have creative player in our team? I'm not talking about Nani who can drible past players, but pure playmaker to make those defense splitting passes.
Oezil would be upgrade if we are talking about creative segment. There is movement from our strikers, RVP and Hernandez are good at it. Rooney is static, as is Valencia and Young. So is our midfield with Carrick and Fellaini. Kagawa is perfect for quick transition and finding holes by his movement, but he's not a playmaker. We do need at least one more creative player in attack, some winger might be perfect. Its not impossible to win with low creativity players, SAF learned us that. But it's much easier to unlock defenses if you have someone like Oezil.
Following on from the above discussion I really dont understand why CRISTIAN ERIKSEN was allowed to go to SPURS and for so little money as he's exactly what we need(ed).
Im actually shocked that he wasnt chased by more top teams.
Mike, mate - on CLEVERLEY I used to agree with you but after his performance in the ****** match I totally saw the point in him: he's a "water carrier" enabling the two other cms in a 3 man cmfield do better what they normally do.