The Manchester United Thread

I can't see us making any big signings this window and I can't see us sacking Moyes, so I'll just pretend that I'm supporting Everton and be absolutely delighted that we are on course to finish in top 8 again yay!
 
Rakitic is? ****** ****, that guys is anything but leader. He had drinking problems ( bet he still have), he was/is true party man, he would miss trainings.. I think he was involved even in a bar fight. And he has bad musical taste, but that irrelevant.

Kovacic offers drive and energy in midfield, someone who can run with the ball, but to make intelligent runs without it. I honestly don't remember last midfielder in United who was capable of doing so.

I said this last April and I will say this again, it was a big mistake to not even try and sign Kovacic for 10 Million. He is class and will go on to become very big player.

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/english-football/72998-manchester-united-thread-372.html#post1743731
 
Or, you know, you could just throw a bone at Newcastle for Cabaye and see what happens.
 
Rakitic is? ****** ****, that guys is anything but leader. He had drinking problems ( bet he still have), he was/is true party man, he would miss trainings.. I think he was involved even in a bar fight. And he has bad musical taste, but that irrelevant.

Kovacic offers drive and energy in midfield, someone who can run with the ball, but to make intelligent runs without it. I honestly don't remember last midfielder in United who was capable of doing so.

When? Where? Never heard of this before.
 
When? Where? Never heard of this before.

In 2008 he was even kicked out of Schalke squad due his drinking problems. There was even a saying in Croatia 'pijan kao Raketa' which means 'drunk as a Rocket', and rocket is his nickname. Every now and then you can see him staying late in some clubs, search Croatian medies for more info.
 
The cold fact is that we need a defence splitting CM to make the most of the periods when we are on top. That and and LB can push us on this season. Then re jig further in the summer. But we really need that CM

Mateo isnt ready to control and be a midfield general (in leadership as well), though I think he is a brilliant young talent. Rakitic is. We're going to lose a few senior heads in the next 12 months, need that next set. Rakitic suits it down to a tee

IMO the answer to the first post is Kovacic. He is not fully ready to take the mantle but he is easily better than any player we have in midfield and I won't include Carrick as they both are completely different type of players.

We need someone to carry the ball forward and create space for other players, Kovacic fits the bill. It should have been Anderson but he is not getting chances anyways and also he is hardly fit so he is out of equation. So it all boils down to this. Do we have a single CM who can carry the ball forward? No.

I haven't watched Rakitic for Sevilla at all so I don't know how good he is but I have seen enough of Kovacic at Inter to tell he is easily good enough for us.
 
Btw, Eikrem and Mats are signing for Cardiff. So that's 3 ManUtd academy players in the Cardiff team.
 
I said this last April and I will say this again, it was a big mistake to not even try and sign Kovacic for 10 Million. He is class and will go on to become very big player.

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/english-football/72998-manchester-united-thread-372.html#post1743731

I have to admit I was sceptical when I first saw Kovacic playing for Dinamo, he was 16 when I first saw him. You could saw glimpses of a true midfielder, but he was very raw, extremly raw. Even when I heard Dinamo was selling him for 10m, i thought he would be decent, nothing special. But how wrong was I?
And about Dinamo players. Halilovic, the winger, is good. There were some comparations with Messi (y'know, 'insert country here' Messi). But the guy we are interested in, Muric, is even bigger talent. He could be truly great.
 
I have to admit I was sceptical when I first saw Kovacic playing for Dinamo, he was 16 when I first saw him. You could saw glimpses of a true midfielder, but he was very raw, extremly raw. Even when I heard Dinamo was selling him for 10m, i thought he would be decent, nothing special. But how wrong was I?
And about Dinamo players. Halilovic, the winger, is good. There were some comparations with Messi (y'know, 'insert country here' Messi). But the guy we are interested in, Muric, is even bigger talent. He could be truly great.

Wasn't Halilovic to Spurs all but done this season? Something went wrong there.

Also Muric, are we interested in him? Any reliable links?
 
IMO the answer to the first post is Kovacic. He is not fully ready to take the mantle but he is easily better than any player we have in midfield and I won't include Carrick as they both are completely different type of players.

We need someone to carry the ball forward and create space for other players, Kovacic fits the bill. It should have been Anderson but he is not getting chances anyways and also he is hardly fit so he is out of equation. So it all boils down to this. Do we have a single CM who can carry the ball forward? No.

I haven't watched Rakitic for Sevilla at all so I don't know how good he is but I have seen enough of Kovacic at Inter to tell he is easily good enough for us.

We also lack leadership. We're both in agreement about ability though, no disputing he has that in spades. But we need to create that powerful spine again for now and future. Putting a lot of pressure on Fletcher to become the midfield leader while regaining fitness.
 
We also lack leadership. We're both in agreement about ability though, no disputing he has that in spades. But we need to create that powerful spine again for now and future. Putting a lot of pressure on Fletcher to become the midfield leader while regaining fitness.

Yeah, we need a completely new midfield and part of the problem can be solved by signing players like Banega or Kovacic. Other part can be addressed by someone like Vidal or that type of player but not sure who is available.
 
Wasn't Halilovic to Spurs all but done this season? Something went wrong there.

Also Muric, are we interested in him? Any reliable links?

Halilovic will cost a bomb. 20m+ for sure. If Tottenham were ready to splash the money, then sure. I really don't know details why it broke.
Well, in Croatian medias there are quite few articles linking him to United. Well, if you know Mamic (Dinamo's chairman and Muric's agent), he would leak something like this to media. Price is quite high, 6 million punds. There were some interest from United for sure, but do we rate him as 6 million prospect, i don't know.
 
According to news we are interested in signing Muric and despite Dinamo rated him as a 6 million player, we can easily sign him on a pre-contract (something to do with Croatia or EU? youths not being allowed to sign a professional contract before 18 or something like that) with a compensation of mere 300k.

In the meantime, let's stop talking about our club for awhile and talk about something else. How do you guys think Solksjaer will do in Cardiff?
 
In the meantime, let's stop talking about our club for awhile and talk about something else. How do you guys think Solksjaer will do in Cardiff?

Stop talking about our club in our clubs thread? Wut
 
According to news we are interested in signing Muric and despite Dinamo rated him as a 6 million player, we can easily sign him on a pre-contract (something to do with Croatia or EU? youths not being allowed to sign a professional contract before 18 or something like that) with a compensation of mere 300k.

In the meantime, let's stop talking about our club for awhile and talk about something else. How do you guys think Solksjaer will do in Cardiff?

It would be fantastic to watch Ole in charge of PL club. He has done good enough job at Molde and deserves shot at managing teams in better leagues.

Also I love the fact that as soon as Ole moved to Cardiff, Eikrem and Mats are moving along with him. He rates them very highly and it would be fantastic to watch them playing in the PL. Eikrem was scholesesque in the reserves league and one of the favorite players in the reserves to watch, very good passing technique and eye for goal.

Wishful thinking is that both of them tearing the league apart and along wiith Ravel Morrison everyone return to ManUtd.

Btw did anyone check the number of players playing in PL and championship graduated from ManUtd academy? It's really fantastic.
 
I think he's saying it's just too depressing when your midfield options are a Fat Anderson, defender Phil Jones, Tom 'Sideways' Cleverley and Microphone-head Fellaini - oh, and a 40-year-old Ryan "Oh after you bro I insist" Giggs.. When the wingers are diver Ashley Young, "lets beat the man and cross it into his feet" Valencia and that Japanese guy you supposedly have who is meant to be good... it is no surprise.
 
Just skimmed though all the PL teams and here is the list (may have left out some players)

Cardiff:
Campbell
Eikrem
Mats Moller

Everton:
Gibson

Fulham:
Richardson

Hull City:
Alex Bruce
Chester
Brady
Paul McShane
Joe Dudgeon
Cameron Stewart

ManUtd:
Rafael (Gary Neville tweeted that twins were with ManUtd since they were 14. (https://twitter.com/GNev2/status/414424527712821248)
Fabio
Evans
Giggs
Welbeck
Cleverley
Fletcher
Januzaj

Norwich:
Pilkington

Stoke:
Shawcross

Sunderland:
Bardsley
Brown
O'Shea

Tottenham:
Fryers

West Ham:
Morrison
 
Are we talking about the same Mateo Kovacic that isn't getting in the Inter team? Has he been injured?
 
Just skimmed though all the PL teams and here is the list (may have left out some players)

Cardiff:
Campbell
Eikrem
Mats Moller

Everton:
Gibson

Fulham:
Richardson

Hull City:
Alex Bruce
Chester
Brady
Paul McShane
Joe Dudgeon
Cameron Stewart

ManUtd:
Rafael (Gary Neville tweeted that twins were with ManUtd since they were 14. (https://twitter.com/GNev2/status/414424527712821248)
Fabio
Evans
Giggs
Welbeck
Cleverley
Fletcher
Januzaj

Norwich:
Pilkington

Stoke:
Shawcross

Sunderland:
Bardsley
Brown
O'Shea

Tottenham:
Fryers

West Ham:
Morrison
There's no doubt United produce a lot of top youngsters, but can this be seen as an entirely positive thing? Perhaps most of these players wouldn't cut it for the current squad, but some of them do - so surely it can also be a sign of letting good players go? Pogba, Piqu? and Rossi are the foreign examples, whereas the likes of Shawcross, Brady and Morrison are domestic examples. I'm not trying to put down the achievement of having produced so many top players, I'm just interested on your/other people's take on this.
 
Are we talking about the same Mateo Kovacic that isn't getting in the Inter team? Has he been injured?

He's not injured since he's on Inter's bench tonight vs. Lazio, but had a small one during the break. Has been a substitute for most of the season, but featured in 16 of the club's 17 league games this season.
 
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