The Manchester United Thread

Tbh, I would say 'go back to jungle' to every player, regardless of his skin color. But I guess I gone too far.
But Diuf was our worst player, not just tonight. Yea yea, he need match fitness. For god sake, he's playing against
mediocre(sorry) championship team and still, he sucks. Not a United caliber, he's a flop. Don't care, move on.
We needreal playmaker so badly. Modric or Banega please.
Oh, almost forgot. I had to google numpty. You could just say I write utter rubbish.

lol, i forget english isnt your first language, shows how well you come across.

Banega :wub: now that would be a signing. No chance on Luka sadly
 
Thanks, I guess :)
I would like Modric better, but like you said, no chance. Banega is realistic and not too expensive, and he would fit in perfectly. Good dribbler, excellent passer and he has great vision. But I would be even happier if Ravel gets chance to play in CM, but he is still too green.
 
Thanks, I guess :)
I would like Modric better, but like you said, no chance. Banega is realistic and not too expensive, and he would fit in perfectly. Good dribbler, excellent passer and he has great vision. But I would be even happier if Ravel gets chance to play in CM, but he is still too green.

Banega or Javi Martinez.
 
Unfortunately this isn't football manager. Very unlikely anyone will come in Jan. For me a first choice team of De Gea, Jones, Vidic, Rio, Evra, Nani, Carrick, Cleverley, Young, Rooney, Chicha and we'll be fine

For me, Carrick gets so much unwarranted abuse its unreal. He's everything Anderson isn't, decent at the back and a solid passer who isn't absolutely shattered after 20 mins. I love Fletch's desire and work rate but lets be honest a top midfielder he isn't. It brings tears to my eyes thinking about the Keane/Scholes times. If only cloning was legal!
 
Javi Martinez, from Athletic ? He would cost like ****. What type of player is he ( i don't believe FM on this one) ?
 
Unfortunately this isn't football manager. Very unlikely anyone will come in Jan. For me a first choice team of De Gea, Jones, Vidic, Rio, Evra, Nani, Carrick, Cleverley, Young, Rooney, Chicha and we'll be fine

For me, Carrick gets so much unwarranted abuse its unreal. He's everything Anderson isn't, decent at the back and a solid passer who isn't absolutely shattered after 20 mins. I love Fletch's desire and work rate but lets be honest a top midfielder he isn't. It brings tears to my eyes thinking about the Keane/Scholes times. If only cloning was legal!

And then what happens when Cleverley is injured? We just put up with sporadic form like we are now, and pray nothing happens to him? And some games call for the running of the likes of Anderson and Fletcher. Anderson was outstanding at the start of the season with Cleverley.
 
Sigh, did I see people moaning about SAF not giving youth a chance? ****** ****.

If you cared to read his interview you would have known that there is a process we follow rather than throwing players just for the sake of it.
Sir Alex Ferguson has explained the detailed process that is followed when he considers whether to hand a youngster his debut.

"The monitoring system here is good and there's a lot of consistency with our Academy staff," says Sir Alex in the new edition of Inside United. "These are guys that have been here a long time and know what to look for. When somebody like Paul McGuinness comes to me and says: 'He's a first-team player', then I know to keep a special eye on the player.

"From there, we'll bring the boy into first-team training for a couple of sessions. That's what we're doing at the moment with Paul Pogba, Ravel Morrison, Jesse Lingard, Zeki Fryers, Larnell Cole and Michael Keane. They're all training with the first team.


"That allows me to see how they cope playing against seasoned professionals, it lets me judge their temperament. It allows me to get a far better picture of how they're progressing. And, while this is going on, you hope they're playing well for the Reserves and displaying the right attitude and enthusiasm.

"Players are never simply thrown into first-team action," he asserted. "They always follow this step-by-step process.

"I don't think we've ever been off the mark and given a boy his chance too early. That can be very damaging. If he's not up to the standards we require at United, then we don't venture there. The last thing we'd want is to humiliate a player. I'm not saying every player I've ever given a debut to has gone on to be a fantastic player at this club, but most of them have at least forged successful careers."

Morrison, Pogba have done well for reserves but that doesn't mean they are ready to step up. For what it is worth, Lee Martin was amazing for reserves so was Gibson.

SAF is doing right thing, he is slowly introducing them to the top flight. Nurturing of talent is the last thing you can criticise him for. He has done it for more than 30 years and he knows whether the player is capable of stepping up.


On the game, would have preferred to win as we would have seen young players in few more games. Not bothered about the result. Gibson played well despite playing his first game in 6 months he completed 120 mins, and for a change he was able to tackle and pick up pass.

Ravel was like a breath of fresh air. He makes things happen, sadly yesterday none of the players were at his level. He likes to play one touch passing game, pass and move and also can dribble superbly. I can't wait to watch him with our first team players.

Felt bad for Macheda. He is back from injury then started as winger. He is having tough time and in last 18 months his development has been shunted. Loan move to a championship or lower PL team will do world of good for him.

Smalling is just class.

Oh again we lost cos of linesman. But still Palace deserved this game more than us imo.
 
I don't think he's mufc quality. He hasn't shown anything to suggest he is really tbh. That one goal. He's a good finisher when given a chance, but his link up play, dribbling, strength etc all below par. Just being able to finish doesn't mean you're good enough these days. Don't think he's United quality but think he'd do well at a team lower in the division like Bolton/WBA/West Ham.

So is Hernandez. Apart from his finishing and movement he is **** at everything. At Macheda's age he almost decided to quit the game.

Macheda had terrible 18 months due to injuries and making wrong career choices. To write him off this early is beyond joke.

I thought people have learned after watching likes of Fletcher, Lucas who improved tremendously in few years. I believe that he will make grade here.
 
So is Hernandez. Apart from his finishing and movement he is **** at everything. At Macheda's age he almost decided to quit the game.

Macheda had terrible 18 months due to injuries and making wrong career choices. To write him off this early is beyond joke.

I thought people have learned after watching likes of Fletcher, Lucas who improved tremendously in few years. I believe that he will make grade here.

Hernandez is a better finisher than Macheda, and he has a lot more pace than him. I'm inclined to agree with DMF on this one, I don't think Macheda will make it, not at a club like United. Maybe he needs to be loaned out to see if he can step up his game, but as things stand I don't see him breaking into the first team.

And I hope you're joking about Fletcher.
 
Hernandez is a better finisher than Macheda, and he has a lot more pace than him. I'm inclined to agree with DMF on this one, I don't think Macheda will make it, not at a club like United. Maybe he needs to be loaned out to see if he can step up his game, but as things stand I don't see him breaking into the first team.

And I hope you're joking about Fletcher.
And i would call you equally as short sighted, if he was 5 years older then yes. But he is 20, coming back from a long string of injuries interruping his last 18 months. nowhere near his peak

why would he joke about fletcher? One, he is a good midfielder, two, he massively improved from what he was when he first came through. He was thought of as a running joke, and yet played a key part in the 3 league titles on the spin
 
And i would call you equally as short sighted, if he was 5 years older then yes. But he is 20, coming back from a long string of injuries interruping his last 18 months. nowhere near his peak

why would he joke about fletcher? One, he is a good midfielder, two, he massively improved from what he was when he first came through. He was thought of as a running joke, and yet played a key part in the 3 league titles on the spin

Injuries or not, he didn't manage to force a first team spot in a team that got relegated, he's lacking in several areas of his game, and all I can remember of him is his goal against Villa - because that's all he did. As I said, as things stand I don't see him doing well at United.

And Fletcher may have improved a lot but he's not United quality, not in a million years.
 
Hernandez is a better finisher than Macheda, and he has a lot more pace than him. I'm inclined to agree with DMF on this one, I don't think Macheda will make it, not at a club like United. Maybe he needs to be loaned out to see if he can step up his game, but as things stand I don't see him breaking into the first team.

And I hope you're joking about Fletcher.

And ignored what Hernandez was doing when he was 20.

I hope you have watched Fletcher from 2008-10.
 
Injuries or not, he didn't manage to force a first team spot in a team that got relegated, he's lacking in several areas of his game, and all I can remember of him is his goal against Villa - because that's all he did. As I said, as things stand I don't see him doing well at United.

And Fletcher may have improved a lot but he's not United quality, not in a million years.

Fletcher is, thats the point. Not sure how you can say he isnt, when he has been key for us in several seasons, thats nonsense.

Sampdoria was a farce, they changed and had no intention of integrating him as they slipped into relagation. If you followed what happened there you would know. Its why he hasnt gone on loan this becuase SAF was so angry Sampdoria wasted his year.
 
Injuries or not, he didn't manage to force a first team spot in a team that got relegated, he's lacking in several areas of his game, and all I can remember of him is his goal against Villa - because that's all he did. As I said, as things stand I don't see him doing well at United.

And Fletcher may have improved a lot but he's not United quality, not in a million years.

Bad career choice and Sampdoria were in **** state to give chance to young loaned player.

Fletcher was superb from 2008 bar last season.

Macheda may improve and make it here or he may move on, but to write off 20 year old who had hard 18 months is nothing but joke.

And FYI people are raving about Pogba, Morrison as they did well for reserves, and for the same reserves Macheda was level above from young age.
 
And ignored what Hernandez was doing when he was 20.

I hope you have watched Fletcher from 2008-10.

When he was his age he scored 4 in 15 and went on to scored 11 in 17 the following season, and 10 in 11 in the one after, missing a few games due to injury. Sure, he was playing in Mexico, but he was still doing far better than Macheda. And above all things, he was getting games.

And about Fletcher, there's a difference between being 'good' and being 'good enough' for a top team. Fletcher's the former but definitely not the latter.
 
Im not saying he will be a star. But getting rid at just 20, is short sighted
 
When he was his age he scored 4 in 15 and went on to scored 11 in 17 the following season, and 10 in 11 in the one after, missing a few games due to injury. Sure, he was playing in Mexico, but he was still doing far better than Macheda. And above all things, he was getting games.

And about Fletcher, there's a difference between being 'good' and being 'good enough' for a top team. Fletcher's the former but definitely not the latter.

Bollocks to be honest. He is good enough for a top team. Its not as if he has been carried by the side. He has been a key player. That makes him good enought for a top side.
 
Fletcher is, thats the point. Not sure how you can say he isnt, when he has been key for us in several seasons, thats nonsense.

Sampdoria was a farce, they changed and had no intention of integrating him as they slipped into relagation. If you followed what happened there you would know. Its why he hasnt gone on loan this becuase SAF was so angry Sampdoria wasted his year.

Exactly. When Fletcher started every big game for years that implies that he is a United type player and a key one. Just because he can't do fancy tricks doesn't mean he is not United type player. We missed a fully fit and In form Fletcher very badly.

And also Spot on with Macheda. Even thats what I said. He shouldn't be judged on what happened at Sampdoria. Good thing is he has learned hard way and he is not willing to return to Italy this time. He has said many times that he wants to move to English club only on loan.
 
Its why he hasnt gone on loan this becuase SAF was so angry Sampdoria wasted his year.

Seriously? He's not sending him out on loan because he had a bad loan spell? Makes no sense to me.

@ Sunil, you said it yourself, Gibson was above par for the reserves. You're contradicting yourself.
 
Seriously? He's not sending him out on loan because he had a bad loan spell? Makes no sense to me.

@ Sunil, you said it yourself, Gibson was above par for the reserves. You're contradicting yourself.

He wants him in an enviroment where he will prosper. he'd rather train him with the first team and play games like CC and FA and Prem everynow and then, than go somewhere like italy and not get developed. Development is key at this age, not just random game time

He will get focused on here, something he didnt get at italy. Coyle is apparently interested so that would change things as he is a manager who takes care of young players.
 
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