The Manchester United Thread

If moyes is the frontrunner with his CV then why isnt roberto martinez being talked about?? Okay his wigan team are in a relegation battle but they play good football equally as good as everton, he has been loyal despite interest from some other clubs including liverpool, not to mention he has guided possibly a less than average team to the fa cup final. If were going off people who could be on par with moyes should martinez not be talked about in the same breathe??

I hope United dont go in the same direction as liverpool have because of one managerial mistake.

Because Roberto is going to Goodison |) (I hope)
 
I don't think anyone minds if Moyes were to take over eventually. But having bigger name for first 2-3 transition seasons would seem like a reasonable move, as the pressure will be tremendous. Especially with SAF still involved in the club and working in the board.

Surely Fergie being on the board, alleviates some of that pressure, as he is there to advise Moyes(potentially). I don't think doing anything short-term is helpful at all, we've had enough success over the last quarter of a century to put up with a slight barren spell, while Moyes gets to grips with life at a such a high profile club(just like Fergie).
 
This is what I'm worried about. I believe he will get better, anyone would with Ferguson sitting in the background ready to give you advice would get better, its just the transition period that will be worrying and annoying. He might not win a trophy for a year or two, but that wont stop the media and some fans claiming that he's the wrong choice and wanting him to be sacked and Mou brought in.

Expectations are always going to be massive at a club like United where your working with a huge budget and world-class players. More so because he is attempting to fill Ferguson's boots. Moyes just has to attempt to adapt as qucikly as he can and learn to deal with the media pressure if he wants to make good on the chance he is getting to manage a big club.
 
Surely Fergie being on the board, alleviates some of that pressure, as he is there to advise Moyes(potentially). I don't think doing anything short-term is helpful at all, we've had enough success over the last quarter of a century to put up with a slight barren spell, while Moyes gets to grips with life at a such a high profile club(just like Fergie).

I'm not sure about that, Moyes would need to quickly estabilish he is in charge and in complete control to avoid media shitstorm after every bad result. And how is he supposed to do that with Ferguson as supervisor?
 
Moyes won't be a bad choice but would have loved to see Jose at ManUtd. Moyes haven't won away game at Arsenal, ManUtd, Chelsea and Liverpool in 50 attempts and has no real European experience. Fergie being director means Moyes will be under even more pressure and hopefully Fergie won't involve in decision makings (Fergie enjoyed that at ManUtd so maybe he knows not to interfere with management). If he doesn't win trophies I can see fans turning against him very quickly after all we are spoiled with Fergie as manager.

On the other hand Moyes deserves a shot with big club, at least for his superb loyalty for Everton which IMO would be taken into consideration as this is something we value a lot. Anyways Fergie will be involved in choosing manager so whoever it is will have my full support. After all it's Fergie's choice :)
 
I'm not sure about that, Moyes would need to quickly estabilish he is in charge and in complete control to avoid media shitstorm after every bad result. And how is he supposed to do that with Ferguson as supervisor?

Obviously he wouldn't be a public supervisor, everyone needs advice sometimes and we don't always hear about it when they get it. I just mean he would be there for whatever questions Moyes might have. No matter who takes over, I'm sure they will at times have the odd conversation with Fergie seeking advice.
 
Watching Skysports news, it's making my hair stand up, welling up a bit.
I was 14/15 when we won the treble and back then you don't really understand the level of achievent, combined with what he had already achieved and then what he has gone on to do in terms of consistency, it's unbelievable.
Even though I was shocked this morning, now I'm just trying to get my head around it, strange feelings, feels like the end even though it won't be, it will never be the same, I'm sad but at the same time I feel honored to have experienced the Fergie years.
He's been managing Utd nearly as long as I've been alive and I can't imagine next season without him, can't think of Utd without him, can't think of the prem without him, just glad to have the memories.
 
Why Moyes when Heynckes will be available??? Heynckes for me any day of the week, proven top class manager, won't feel the weight of Fergie over his shoulders and would be a safe option for Europe in the next few seasons just to get over this period. He is a proven manager with success. Only downside is he would have to learn English, but that would not really be a problem considering the time until next season.
 
Why Moyes when Heynckes will be available??? Heynckes for me any day of the week, proven top class manager, won't feel the weight of Fergie over his shoulders and would be a safe option for Europe in the next few seasons just to get over this period. He is a proven manager with success. Only downside is he would have to learn English, but that would not really be a problem considering the time until next season.

He's about to retire... he's been reconsidering, but hasnt actually changed his mind
 
This is what I'm worried about. I believe he will get better, anyone would with Ferguson sitting in the background ready to give you advice would get better, its just the transition period that will be worrying and annoying. He might not win a trophy for a year or two, but that wont stop the media and some fans claiming that he's the wrong choice and wanting him to be sacked and Mou brought in.

That why United are good, because they will resist such idiocy.
 
So, Jose to come to United and bring Ronaldo with him?

That why United are good, because they will resist such idiocy.

How do we know that? They might do, they might not. They did 25 years ago, but it doesn't mean they still will.
 
Why Moyes when Heynckes will be available??? Heynckes for me any day of the week, proven top class manager, won't feel the weight of Fergie over his shoulders and would be a safe option for Europe in the next few seasons just to get over this period. He is a proven manager with success. Only downside is he would have to learn English, but that would not really be a problem considering the time until next season.
Heynckes is 70 years old and will retire at the end of the season.
 
I'd love to see Klopp brought in, Jose would also be good for a few years...but Moyes? I'm sorry but he's not good enough. He's a nice guy and has done well to keep Everton in the league, but that's not enough. Hopefully the media are wrong.
 
I'd love to see Klopp brought in, Jose would also be good for a few years...but Moyes? I'm sorry but he's not good enough. He's a nice guy and has done well to keep Everton in the league, but that's not enough. Hopefully the media are wrong.

So you think Ferguson is wrong to choose him as his successor?
 
I'd love to see Klopp brought in, Jose would also be good for a few years...but Moyes? I'm sorry but he's not good enough. He's a nice guy and has done well to keep Everton in the league, but that's not enough. Hopefully the media are wrong.

Except he hasn't only kept them in the league, he has massively overachieved. Fergie has had this moment ready for years and knows more about it than any of us. He may be "just" Everton manager, the point is he is in a tiny group of managers who fit into the philosophy of how United as a club is run. There was a point when Ferguson himself was "just" Aberdeen manager too.

Writing him off before he's begun is going to achieve nothing. We've always had faith in Fergie on the pitch, show some ****** faith in him now, you really think he's gonna throw away everything he's built for someone he doesn't think is cut for it? How many times have United fans mocked others for being fickle and crying about wanting their manager out, don't become that.

Heres an article on just the type of manager that Moyes is. Everton: how the blues made good - FT.com
 
So you think Ferguson is wrong to choose him as his successor?

I said he isn't good enough, why bother asking that question? Sir Alex might be the greatest of all time but he isn't always right, makes me laugh when people always play that card.

Do you think Moyes is the best manager available? Would he have been your choice?
 
I said he isn't good enough, why bother asking that question? Sir Alex might be the greatest of all time but he isn't always right, makes me laugh when people always play that card.

Do you think Moyes is the best manager available? Would he have been your choice?

You dont think he would have spent a tremendous amount of time thinking about his successor?

Moyes isn't my first choice, but I certainly am not going to write him off. He's not always right, but he is certainly right a a lot more than he is wrong. United are looking for a certain type. Ferguson is looking for someone in the mould of United's traditions and if any knows that best it's him. I'm certainly not going to say he's not good before he's even stepped into the club, if he indeed steps in.
 
I said he isn't good enough, why bother asking that question? Sir Alex might be the greatest of all time but he isn't always right, makes me laugh when people always play that card.

Do you think Moyes is the best manager available? Would he have been your choice?

He isn't always right but the probability of Gill and Fergie getting it correct is infinitely greater than you getting it. We are talking about one of the best ever manager and one of the best ever CEO David Gill.
 
I said he isn't good enough, why bother asking that question? Sir Alex might be the greatest of all time but he isn't always right, makes me laugh when people always play that card.

Do you think Moyes is the best manager available? Would he have been your choice?

It's not about right now. If the club feel that Jose will deliver a few years of success and leave us in the lurch, and that Moyes can deliver long term success to us, then so be it. I'd rather take a few seasons of teething problems with Moyes and be set for another decade of domination, than have someone else deliver now and leave us in the wilderness for a decade.

And Fergie isn't always right, no one is always right, the point is that he's by far the most qualified person on the planet to speak about it.
 
Except he hasn't only kept them in the league, he has massively overachieved. Fergie has had this moment ready for years and knows more about it than any of us. He may be "just" Everton manager, the point is he is in a tiny group of managers who fit into the philosophy of how United as a club is run. There was a point when Ferguson himself was "just" Aberdeen manager too.

Writing him off before he's begun is going to achieve nothing. We've always had faith in Fergie on the pitch, show some ****** faith in him now, you really think he's gonna throw away everything he's built for someone he doesn't think is cut for it? How many times have United fans mocked others for being fickle and crying about wanting their manager out, don't become that.

Heres an article on just the type of manager that Moyes is. Everton: how the blues made good - FT.com

Nailed it. Not my first choice, but United are looking for a certain kind of manager. Off the top of my head, that would be Klopp and Moyes.
 
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