Except Anderson doesn't track back, and is often not in the position to win the ball back, as he also showed in the Sevilla game.
I don't entirely agree Ando is weaker defensively in every aspect of it. As a whole - probably, but Ando's got the ability to out-muscle opponents and win the ball which he showed in the Sevilla game. I don't think same can be said about Cleverley (Ramires header at Stamford Bridge). Anyway doesn't matter much as each of them don't deserve to be preferred over Carrick and the potential future midfielder(s) (fingers crossed).
Yep, seems to me he's developing some kind of Rooney-esque role in United. He needs to improve in some segments, but his overall play is pretty good.
Except Anderson doesn't track back, and is often not in the position to win the ball back, as he also showed in the Sevilla game.
In that particular game I think we played 4-3-3 with Carrick as the deepest midfielder, so it's justified partially. But I do agree with your point which becomes much more important when Ando is a part of 2-man central midfield behind 2 strikers or AMC and a striker. Despite he's not so often as we would have liked in the position to win the ball, when he actually is, he is better at that than Clevs. And that was my point while still agreeing with your remark.
Anderson would be brilliant as the most attacking mid in a 4-3-3, or perhaps looking to attack dynamic power at AMC ( his original role) but becomes more of a liability in 2 man.
No it was only when Carrick came on that Anderson looked better, first half he wasn't on the pitch and it was terrifying how open we were. That said Cleverley wasn't much better either haha.
He might be a better ball winner ( he is certainly more powerful than TC), but it becomes moot if he doesn't ever get in that position to be able to win/intercept the ball
My bad, 4-3-3 with Carrick at DM was the AIK game. Vs Sevilla Ando did press Kondogbia very successfully and won the ball a few times and that's the type of winning the ball I meant. I assume you're talking about intercepting the ball which Carrick does very well due to his positioning and at which I've never intended to argue about.
Is Rooney really that important to United? I'm no expert on United, but judging by the amount of talent they have up front and in attacking midfield, I think they have capable replacements. Hernandez and Welbeck could replace him in a front two, Kagawa and Anderson (at his best) could replace him in the attacking midfield/no. 10 position.
I'd say sell him, since he doesn't seem to want to be there (and it's not like he's young anymore), and spent the money on someone to partner Carrick (à la Fellaini) and a new backup forward (since Chicharito and Welbeck are clearly good enough to be challenging for a first team place).
Is Rooney really that important to United? I'm no expert on United, but judging by the amount of talent they have up front and in attacking midfield, I think they have capable replacements. Hernandez and Welbeck could replace him in a front two, Kagawa and Anderson (at his best) could replace him in the attacking midfield/no. 10 position.
I'd say sell him, since he doesn't seem to want to be there (and it's not like he's young anymore), and spent the money on someone to partner Carrick (à la Fellaini) and a new backup forward (since Chicharito and Welbeck are clearly good enough to be challenging for a first team place).
If Chelsea offer £40m they can have him, no way we're selling for less then that. We need a suitable replacement if he does go as well. Media keep linking us to Lucas Muriel.
Apparently Madrid wanted him when he put in a transfer request a couple of years ago. Imagine Ronaldo, Bale and Ozil in attacking mid with Rooney up top. Would never happen...He should have been sold abroad but now i dont where he would go ? Madrid might wanna try if suarez deal does not work out after the bale transfer looks uncertain .Ronaldo +Rooney attraction might interest Madrid more than suarez + controversy .Still think should not be sold but if he continues this attitude than its no use keeping and making it more hard for moyes in his first year.
I know you don't need Fellaini, but I was just saying you need to sign another midfielder, and you have been linked with Fellaini. I wouldn't say he's being underrated, yes, he creates chances but it just seems like he has lost his previous hunger and affection for United (perhaps to do with Moyes?).We don't need to sell to sign players like Fellaini.
Yes. Rooney is very important player, I'm not sure why this sudden underrating of Rooney started. When Rooney is on song we are a superb team. He gets involved in our build up play more than any striker we have. He is just as good as 5th midfielder but scores as many as a CF. That's such an important attribute to have. For all the problems he had last season he matched Mata's goals and assist stats and they both play in the same position.
Edit: By selling him to Chelsea we are giving the rival team exactly the player they need. 30 Million is not enough for that.
I know you don't need Fellaini, but I was just saying you need to sign another midfielder, and you have been linked with Fellaini. I wouldn't say he's being underrated, yes, he creates chances but it just seems like he has lost his previous hunger and affection for United (perhaps to do with Moyes?).
Take away his tremendous work rate, and his wages seem ridiculous - especially with such great talent on the bench. And the fact is, if he doesn't want to play for United, he won't work as hard.
I would say you need someone who is a little more creative than Fellaini, but there's no doubt he's a good player (and someone Moyes knows personally). If Rooney has a good season next season, the decision to reject Chelsea's bids will be entirely justified, because when he's at his best, he is amazing.I'm not saying we don't need Fellaini, if anything we need someone like him and I would be very happy if we sign Fellaini. Just saying we don't need to sell to buy. We have funds.
I'm banking on Rooney to get back to his best firing on all cylinders in the world cup year and hopefully he will be back to his 2010-11 second half best,
I would say you need someone who is a little more creative than Fellaini, but there's no doubt he's a good player (and someone Moyes knows personally). If Rooney has a good season next season, the decision to reject Chelsea's bids will be entirely justified, because when he's at his best, he is amazing.
But all I'm saying is that he wasn't at his best last season, and he seems to have developed an attitude in the last few years which means that perhaps selling him for a big fee (£35-£40 million) would be the best decision, in my opinion.
I do see the point, though, of not wanting to sell to Chelsea, who are lacking a reliable striker. If they signed an in-form Rooney, they would really challenge for the title.I would agree, if the club in question was not Chelsea, especially with Jose Mourinho in charge.
I do see the point, though, of not wanting to sell to Chelsea, who are lacking a reliable striker. If they signed an in-form Rooney, they would really challenge for the title.
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I would say you need someone who is a little more creative than Fellaini, but there's no doubt he's a good player (and someone Moyes knows personally). If Rooney has a good season next season, the decision to reject Chelsea's bids will be entirely justified, because when he's at his best, he is amazing.
But all I'm saying is that he wasn't at his best last season, and he seems to have developed an attitude in the last few years which means that perhaps selling him for a big fee (£35-£40 million) would be the best decision, in my opinion.