Obviously you know everything that went behind the scenes.
If you check Perez's interview they were not interested to buy him, so not sure how the move broke.
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Obviously you know everything that went behind the scenes.
If you check Perez's interview they were not interested to buy him, so not sure how the move broke.
Van Gaal has given debut for Blackett, James, Lingard, Janko and Pereira. That's 5 young players in just 4 games. Apart from that he has given chances for Keane and Wilson.
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I'm wondering if you guys think you got the max out of this transfer window.
I think the signings except for falcao were great signings. Now you have 3 world class strikers and you might just switch to a system with 1, if the 5-3-2 isn't going to work out. It might just lead to backroom trouble. On the other side the defense of united still isn't in that much depth as you'd wish and you're missing some experience/leadership there.
Ofcourse you can't just buy anyone you want like it's FIFA, but it looks like Falcao was some marquee signing that United still can buy big players. Instead imo they should've spent the cash to create more depth in GK/Def/Midfield.
I think the signings except for falcao were great signings. Now you have 3 world class strikers and you might just switch to a system with 1, if the 5-3-2 isn't going to work out. It might just lead to backroom trouble. On the other side the defense of united still isn't in that much depth as you'd wish and you're missing some experience/leadership there.
Ofcourse you can't just buy anyone you want like it's FIFA, but it looks like Falcao was some marquee signing that United still can buy big players. Instead imo they should've spent the cash to create more depth in GK/Def/Midfield.
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So apparently Ronaldo has come out nd has been quoted saying that
"I have said it many times. Manchester is in my heart. I left many good friends there, the supporters are amazing and I wish I can come back one day."
One can hope...
Oh and I think it was he express saying we are linked with a 60 mill bid for Pogba in Jan or next august if that is true or not who knows.
"I have said it many times. Manchester is in my heart. I left many good friends there, the supporters are amazing and I wish I can come back one day."
One can hope...
Oh and I think it was he express saying we are linked with a 60 mill bid for Pogba in Jan or next august if that is true or not who knows.
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How united fans felt during the transfer window
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=594902930655243&set=vb.338233632988842&type=2&theater
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=594902930655243&set=vb.338233632988842&type=2&theater
Mostly correct and therefore depressing article:
"Look at the Glazers... you would have thought they were nothing but a bunch of Americans intent on buying the club and selling off Old Trafford to Tesco judging by the howl of protests from the fans. Within two seasons though, they had won the title and built a squad the envy of Europe."
You don't hear a massive amount about the Glazers, these days. Or, at least, not enough. Not if you aren't a Manchester United fan, anyway. There's just too much shambolic about United on the pitch to bother with stuff on the pitch, and it might seem like a proper critique of their time in Manchester requires a detailed knowledge of financial data, which is frankly too boring to even try to understand.
The good thing about the Glazers though, is that the headline figures are more than enough to judge them. They've taken in the region of £700million out of the club since arriving in 2005, in assorted fees, interest and other payments with complicated acronyms. A few weeks ago, they made a handy $127million from selling shares to an investment firm. That's a decent basis for an opinion.
But it's all OK, isn't it? Because they're spending money now, aren't they? Loads of it, in fact, with north of £150million lavished this summer on a variety of players, some of them really very good. So everything's cool? Well, obviously not.
At this point it's worth saying that this could be something of a straw man piece. There have been, to my knowledge, no serious articles defending the Glazers or praising them excessively for finally opening their chequebooks. The quote at the top of this article, from the great man Tim Lovejoy, currently stands as perhaps the only scholarly defence of the way they have run Manchester United.
But those pieces will come, and at some point soon, too. If you care to treat Twitter as anything close to a reliable barometer of opinion, just do a search for 'Glazers well done' or 'Glazers finally', then resist the urge to take a long walk in the woods.
This year has seen unprecedented spending at Manchester United, and that they have splashed so much cash on their team and it's still hugely flawed gives you an indication of how jiggered they were, and perhaps still are. You'll have read many times about Sir Alex Ferguson's neglect in relying on his own brilliance and letting his squad fall into such abysmal disrepair, but it's worth repeating the point.
Of course it was only partly the old man's fault. Ferguson frequently praised the Glazers, and indeed famously and charmingly instructed United's supporters to "go and support Chelsea" if they didn't like them. But if you think Ferguson was happy mending and making do, adding decent but ultimately not quite good enough players when this was the man who'd previously spent millions on Andy Cole, Dwight Yorke, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Juan Sebastian Veron and Rio Ferdinand, then pass on your email address, because you've just inherited £63million from a Saudi prince and all I need is your bank details to make the first payment.
The Glazers haven't spent money this summer for altruistic reasons, but rather out of desperation, knowing that although they can handle a couple of years of mediocrity and lurking outside the Champions League, they know the sooner they get back in the better for their own investment.
The only reason United have been forced to spend this much in one go is because of the neglect under their stewardship. They have created this problem through years of funneling the club's money towards their own debt rather than the team, and now they don't have a once in a generation genius to help them save face, they're trying to spend their way out of trouble.
Congratulating the Glazers for this transfer window is a little like thanking someone for buying you a new shirt after they've just spent nine years punching you in the nose. Or thanking a man for taping your Ming vase back together after smashing it into tiny pieces.
For the first time in nearly a decade, Manchester United are spending money as they can, and indeed as they should have been doing for years before. Meanwhile, the Glazers still pocket £100million after leeching for nine years. It's the most obvious thing in football to point out that they Glazers are poison, but it's well to remember they shouldn't be thanked for this burst of spending.
"Look at the Glazers... you would have thought they were nothing but a bunch of Americans intent on buying the club and selling off Old Trafford to Tesco judging by the howl of protests from the fans. Within two seasons though, they had won the title and built a squad the envy of Europe."
You don't hear a massive amount about the Glazers, these days. Or, at least, not enough. Not if you aren't a Manchester United fan, anyway. There's just too much shambolic about United on the pitch to bother with stuff on the pitch, and it might seem like a proper critique of their time in Manchester requires a detailed knowledge of financial data, which is frankly too boring to even try to understand.
The good thing about the Glazers though, is that the headline figures are more than enough to judge them. They've taken in the region of £700million out of the club since arriving in 2005, in assorted fees, interest and other payments with complicated acronyms. A few weeks ago, they made a handy $127million from selling shares to an investment firm. That's a decent basis for an opinion.
But it's all OK, isn't it? Because they're spending money now, aren't they? Loads of it, in fact, with north of £150million lavished this summer on a variety of players, some of them really very good. So everything's cool? Well, obviously not.
At this point it's worth saying that this could be something of a straw man piece. There have been, to my knowledge, no serious articles defending the Glazers or praising them excessively for finally opening their chequebooks. The quote at the top of this article, from the great man Tim Lovejoy, currently stands as perhaps the only scholarly defence of the way they have run Manchester United.
But those pieces will come, and at some point soon, too. If you care to treat Twitter as anything close to a reliable barometer of opinion, just do a search for 'Glazers well done' or 'Glazers finally', then resist the urge to take a long walk in the woods.
This year has seen unprecedented spending at Manchester United, and that they have splashed so much cash on their team and it's still hugely flawed gives you an indication of how jiggered they were, and perhaps still are. You'll have read many times about Sir Alex Ferguson's neglect in relying on his own brilliance and letting his squad fall into such abysmal disrepair, but it's worth repeating the point.
Of course it was only partly the old man's fault. Ferguson frequently praised the Glazers, and indeed famously and charmingly instructed United's supporters to "go and support Chelsea" if they didn't like them. But if you think Ferguson was happy mending and making do, adding decent but ultimately not quite good enough players when this was the man who'd previously spent millions on Andy Cole, Dwight Yorke, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Juan Sebastian Veron and Rio Ferdinand, then pass on your email address, because you've just inherited £63million from a Saudi prince and all I need is your bank details to make the first payment.
The Glazers haven't spent money this summer for altruistic reasons, but rather out of desperation, knowing that although they can handle a couple of years of mediocrity and lurking outside the Champions League, they know the sooner they get back in the better for their own investment.
The only reason United have been forced to spend this much in one go is because of the neglect under their stewardship. They have created this problem through years of funneling the club's money towards their own debt rather than the team, and now they don't have a once in a generation genius to help them save face, they're trying to spend their way out of trouble.
Congratulating the Glazers for this transfer window is a little like thanking someone for buying you a new shirt after they've just spent nine years punching you in the nose. Or thanking a man for taping your Ming vase back together after smashing it into tiny pieces.
For the first time in nearly a decade, Manchester United are spending money as they can, and indeed as they should have been doing for years before. Meanwhile, the Glazers still pocket £100million after leeching for nine years. It's the most obvious thing in football to point out that they Glazers are poison, but it's well to remember they shouldn't be thanked for this burst of spending.
This whole drama about United spending is rather amusing. Looks to me like whole bunch of people are butthurt after realizing that, at least within FPP limits, nobody in the league can outspend 3 billion behemoth build by Ferguson. And no amount of pocket money from oil princes and russian mobsters is going to help.
Its like Woody said 'release the kraken' and everybody is losing their mind about something that should be obvious.
Brilliant.
Its like Woody said 'release the kraken' and everybody is losing their mind about something that should be obvious.
Brilliant.
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That doesn't, nor should it, negate from his ability to regain the copious expenditures made on transfers by selling others for returns in their own investments.
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Great news to come home and see the squad, with so many home grown players and academy players. Also excellent news on Rojo Permit 
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dream but highly unlikely scenario; Cleverley helps Villa in making our rivals drop points. So great having strength in depth in our squad now hopefully we can knuckle down learning LvG's philosophy and kick start our season.
dream but highly unlikely scenario; Cleverley helps Villa in making our rivals drop points. So great having strength in depth in our squad now hopefully we can knuckle down learning LvG's philosophy and kick start our season.
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Strrotman in Jan and Pogba,Hummels,Reus next summer. Then LVG can go on to part 2 of his plan, revamping the youth set up and bringing academy players through
A tad misleading considering all the u21 talent those clubs have (unregistered and uncounted) and the fact that that your squad is padded out with the likes of Ben Amos, Davide Petrucci and Marnick Vermijl.
Calling you the new Galaticos is ridiculous of course, but it's not as cut and dry as that awful article wants you to believe.
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Don't sound like anyone will be getting Reus next year. Reports in Spain saying Madrid have signed a pre agreement with Dortmund and Perez was keen to tie down his services before a tug of war at the end of this season.
If they're getting Reus, does that mean that either CR7 or Bale are gonna leave lol? Unless CR7 or Reus will be played as a striker..
I agree about the stuff about Glazers,
BUT, the thing is, now that they're (we're) another "normal" team, I don't think Glazers can "ever" do what they have done in the past. I mean even Arsenal and Liverpool are spending now. People were also saying similar stuff about them, no actually worse, and now everyone has forgotten it. I don't consider Glazers a threat or good owners, I think they're just some chairmen that own a club. Like any other. And United will be like any other team from now on (well except all the greatness that comes with us). So no need to worry in one way or another (And the death of Malcolm Glazer have probably helped the Glazer boys to be more free). I think from now on all is up to the technical staff. So it's LVG's turn...
(I hope he plays as following:
Falcao
Rooney-Mata-Di Maria
Blind-Herrera
Shaw-Rojo-Jones-Rafael
De Gea)
BUT, the thing is, now that they're (we're) another "normal" team, I don't think Glazers can "ever" do what they have done in the past. I mean even Arsenal and Liverpool are spending now. People were also saying similar stuff about them, no actually worse, and now everyone has forgotten it. I don't consider Glazers a threat or good owners, I think they're just some chairmen that own a club. Like any other. And United will be like any other team from now on (well except all the greatness that comes with us). So no need to worry in one way or another (And the death of Malcolm Glazer have probably helped the Glazer boys to be more free). I think from now on all is up to the technical staff. So it's LVG's turn...
(I hope he plays as following:
Falcao
Rooney-Mata-Di Maria
Blind-Herrera
Shaw-Rojo-Jones-Rafael
De Gea)
Is Rooney really a wide player? A narrow diamond, like the one Liverpool whipped out, would be an interesting prospect.
--Falcao-----Rooney
--------Mata
Di Maria-----Blind
-------Herrera
Why does Rooney deserve to play out-wide? If he isn't the best no.10 or striker in our team, he certainly isn't the best player we have who can play out-wide, Januzaj would take that mantle (after Di-Maria)..
Rooney shouldn't be picked for his name, it should be on merit and at the moment IMO there is better options.
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That's I would set up just swap Blind and Herrera around. Then swap Rooney and Mata coz Mata is injured then have RVP up top.